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From: Maurits v. R. <m.v...@ze...> - 2015-10-23 15:24:12
|
Password reset now works for me and I am logged in. But when I logout, I cannot log back in. It says: "You can't log in as mauritsvanrees from that IP address." I had this yesterday at home, and now also at the office. So I wonder from which place I initially set up my account. :-) Would be weird if you could only use community.plone.org from one ip address. Are others seeing this too? Maybe I'll just create a new account based on github. -- Maurits van Rees: http://maurits.vanrees.org/ Zest Software: http://zestsoftware.nl |
From: Martin O. R. <ma...@pl...> - 2015-10-23 07:58:00
|
Works now. Also removed twitter login as we are probably going to use github on the new plone.org as well, so we can keep it the same. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:10 AM Bill Deegan <bi...@ba...> wrote: > signing up with github fails for me at the moment. > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk < > ma...@pl...> wrote: > >> We are not running our own mail server because >> 1) We had 12k free with mandrill and based on my back of the envelope >> calculations I thought that would be plenty. :-P >> 2) It was recommended as the best solution when setting up Discourse and >> 3) I didn't want to run a mail server. >> >> This isn't costing us a lot of money, 1 USD per 5K emails or something >> like that, with the first 12k per month free. But we will look into other >> solutions, but it isn't very high on my list right now. It is a lot more >> economical for me to pay for it out of pocket then fixing it, and the book >> keeping related to this probably cost a lot more then the actual service. >> There seem to have been a big spike in emails when upgrading Discourse to >> the latest version, and this might make this month a bit different, and >> based on the average so far this month we will be sending about 20k emails >> per month. >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:38 PM Nathan Van Gheem <van...@gm...> >> wrote: >> >>> Wait, what? >>> >>> We aren't running our own mail server? >>> >>> Or does discourse have this restriction? I thought it was FOSS. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:54 AM, T. Kim Nguyen <ng...@pl...> wrote: >>> >>>> Martior found the source of the problem with outbound emails from the >>>> forum: we'd run out of free outbound emails :/ The fix was to pay... >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Witek <wit...@gm...> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looks like I'm In :) >>>>> I received 4 account confirmation messages a few hours ago (none of >>>>> which worked) but then I tried to resend another one, and that one worked. >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Dominik Ruf <dom...@gm...> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I also tried to sign up. >>>>>> I tried to resend the email 4 times it the last 4 days without any >>>>>> luck. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Dominik >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Plone-developers mailing list >>>>>> Plo...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plone-developers mailing list >>>>> Plo...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plone-developers mailing list >>>> Plo...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nathan Van Gheem >>> Solutions Architect >>> Wildcard Corp >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plone-developers mailing list >>> Plo...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> >> > |
From: Bill D. <bi...@ba...> - 2015-10-23 01:35:36
|
signing up with github fails for me at the moment. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk < ma...@pl...> wrote: > We are not running our own mail server because > 1) We had 12k free with mandrill and based on my back of the envelope > calculations I thought that would be plenty. :-P > 2) It was recommended as the best solution when setting up Discourse and > 3) I didn't want to run a mail server. > > This isn't costing us a lot of money, 1 USD per 5K emails or something > like that, with the first 12k per month free. But we will look into other > solutions, but it isn't very high on my list right now. It is a lot more > economical for me to pay for it out of pocket then fixing it, and the book > keeping related to this probably cost a lot more then the actual service. > There seem to have been a big spike in emails when upgrading Discourse to > the latest version, and this might make this month a bit different, and > based on the average so far this month we will be sending about 20k emails > per month. > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:38 PM Nathan Van Gheem <van...@gm...> > wrote: > >> Wait, what? >> >> We aren't running our own mail server? >> >> Or does discourse have this restriction? I thought it was FOSS. >> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:54 AM, T. Kim Nguyen <ng...@pl...> wrote: >> >>> Martior found the source of the problem with outbound emails from the >>> forum: we'd run out of free outbound emails :/ The fix was to pay... >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Witek <wit...@gm...> wrote: >>> >>>> Looks like I'm In :) >>>> I received 4 account confirmation messages a few hours ago (none of >>>> which worked) but then I tried to resend another one, and that one worked. >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Dominik Ruf <dom...@gm...> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I also tried to sign up. >>>>> I tried to resend the email 4 times it the last 4 days without any >>>>> luck. >>>>> >>>>> -Dominik >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plone-developers mailing list >>>>> Plo...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plone-developers mailing list >>>> Plo...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plone-developers mailing list >>> Plo...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nathan Van Gheem >> Solutions Architect >> Wildcard Corp >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > |
From: Martin O. R. <ma...@pl...> - 2015-10-22 21:17:52
|
We are not running our own mail server because 1) We had 12k free with mandrill and based on my back of the envelope calculations I thought that would be plenty. :-P 2) It was recommended as the best solution when setting up Discourse and 3) I didn't want to run a mail server. This isn't costing us a lot of money, 1 USD per 5K emails or something like that, with the first 12k per month free. But we will look into other solutions, but it isn't very high on my list right now. It is a lot more economical for me to pay for it out of pocket then fixing it, and the book keeping related to this probably cost a lot more then the actual service. There seem to have been a big spike in emails when upgrading Discourse to the latest version, and this might make this month a bit different, and based on the average so far this month we will be sending about 20k emails per month. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:38 PM Nathan Van Gheem <van...@gm...> wrote: > Wait, what? > > We aren't running our own mail server? > > Or does discourse have this restriction? I thought it was FOSS. > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:54 AM, T. Kim Nguyen <ng...@pl...> wrote: > >> Martior found the source of the problem with outbound emails from the >> forum: we'd run out of free outbound emails :/ The fix was to pay... >> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Witek <wit...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> Looks like I'm In :) >>> I received 4 account confirmation messages a few hours ago (none of >>> which worked) but then I tried to resend another one, and that one worked. >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Dominik Ruf <dom...@gm...> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I also tried to sign up. >>>> I tried to resend the email 4 times it the last 4 days without any luck. >>>> >>>> -Dominik >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plone-developers mailing list >>>> Plo...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plone-developers mailing list >>> Plo...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> >> > > > -- > Nathan Van Gheem > Solutions Architect > Wildcard Corp > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > |
From: Steve M. <st...@dc...> - 2015-10-22 18:25:22
|
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Nathan Van Gheem <van...@gm...> wrote: > ... > We aren't running our own mail server? > ... > I don't know if this is the case here, but many cloud hosts these days forbid outgoing connections to destination port 25. The solution is to use a re-mailing service. These services also typically do the cumbersome DKIM signing. They also give you some protection against the blacklisting of IP blocks. |
From: Leonardo R. A. <leo...@gm...> - 2015-10-22 16:01:06
|
Same with me, I'm in as well now. On 22 October 2015 at 12:51, Witek <wit...@gm...> wrote: > Looks like I'm In :) > I received 4 account confirmation messages a few hours ago (none of which > worked) but then I tried to resend another one, and that one worked. Thanks! > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Dominik Ruf <dom...@gm...> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I also tried to sign up. >> I tried to resend the email 4 times it the last 4 days without any luck. >> >> -Dominik >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > |
From: Nathan V. G. <van...@gm...> - 2015-10-22 16:00:41
|
Are there errors in browser console? Do you have the latest plone4.csrffixes? There have been many releases and fixes since it was first announced. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:58 AM, robert <ro...@re...> wrote: > Hi there, > > I installed the security patch from 6th of october (or so ..). > Now we have problems editing pages. > > What ever I do, I am not able to use an editor like tinyMCE on any of the > content anymore. > This is the same whether I try it on existing content or on a new page. > > The system is running plone 4.3.3. > > I did download the site to my local box and did an update to4.3.7 but I am > facing the same problem still. > > Any pointers where to look for a fix would be very much appreciated. > > robert > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > -- Nathan Van Gheem Solutions Architect Wildcard Corp |
From: robert <ro...@re...> - 2015-10-22 15:59:05
|
Hi there, I installed the security patch from 6th of october (or so ..). Now we have problems editing pages. What ever I do, I am not able to use an editor like tinyMCE on any of the content anymore. This is the same whether I try it on existing content or on a new page. The system is running plone 4.3.3. I did download the site to my local box and did an update to4.3.7 but I am facing the same problem still. Any pointers where to look for a fix would be very much appreciated. robert |
From: Sean U. <sd...@gm...> - 2015-10-22 15:57:38
|
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Nathan Van Gheem <van...@gm...> wrote: > Wait, what? > > We aren't running our own mail server? > > Or does discourse have this restriction? I thought it was FOSS. > Looking at mail headers, I am assuming this (cloud delivery service) is the limit: https://www.mandrill.com/pricing/ Sean <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers> |
From: Nathan V. G. <van...@gm...> - 2015-10-22 15:37:19
|
Wait, what? We aren't running our own mail server? Or does discourse have this restriction? I thought it was FOSS. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:54 AM, T. Kim Nguyen <ng...@pl...> wrote: > Martior found the source of the problem with outbound emails from the > forum: we'd run out of free outbound emails :/ The fix was to pay... > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Witek <wit...@gm...> wrote: > >> Looks like I'm In :) >> I received 4 account confirmation messages a few hours ago (none of which >> worked) but then I tried to resend another one, and that one worked. Thanks! >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Dominik Ruf <dom...@gm...> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I also tried to sign up. >>> I tried to resend the email 4 times it the last 4 days without any luck. >>> >>> -Dominik >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plone-developers mailing list >>> Plo...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > -- Nathan Van Gheem Solutions Architect Wildcard Corp |
From: T. K. N. <ng...@pl...> - 2015-10-22 14:54:34
|
Martior found the source of the problem with outbound emails from the forum: we'd run out of free outbound emails :/ The fix was to pay... On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Witek <wit...@gm...> wrote: > Looks like I'm In :) > I received 4 account confirmation messages a few hours ago (none of which > worked) but then I tried to resend another one, and that one worked. Thanks! > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Dominik Ruf <dom...@gm...> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I also tried to sign up. >> I tried to resend the email 4 times it the last 4 days without any luck. >> >> -Dominik >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > |
From: Witek <wit...@gm...> - 2015-10-22 14:51:36
|
Looks like I'm In :) I received 4 account confirmation messages a few hours ago (none of which worked) but then I tried to resend another one, and that one worked. Thanks! On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Dominik Ruf <dom...@gm...> wrote: > Hi, > > I also tried to sign up. > I tried to resend the email 4 times it the last 4 days without any luck. > > -Dominik > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > |
From: Dominik R. <dom...@gm...> - 2015-10-21 17:50:01
|
Hi, I also tried to sign up. I tried to resend the email 4 times it the last 4 days without any luck. -Dominik |
From: Jens W. K. <je...@bl...> - 2015-10-20 05:24:17
|
On 2015-10-19 19:36, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: > I will make sure we have the correct email dns entries. I will also look > into having github login. New plone.org will use github login (maybe other OAuth2 providers) too, so having this at community.plone.org would be superior. Jens > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 6:18 PM Witek > <wit...@gm... > <mailto:wit...@gm...>> wrote: > > I too have the same issue, have tried now a few times to log-in and > have the activation email resent.. still waiting.. nothing in spam > folder either.. > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida > <leo...@gm... > <mailto:leo...@gm...>> wrote: > > I tried creating an account some time ago, but haven't received > my activation e-mail yet (and yes, I did check my spam folder, > and asked the activation e-mail to be re-sent). > > So I, for one, can't use the newfangled system yet :-) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > <mailto:Plo...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > -- Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance |
From: sven <sv...@le...> - 2015-10-19 19:10:58
|
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, We are sending you this mail to inform you that we will shutdown svn.plone.org as an active service at the end of the year. svn.plone.org will stay online as *read only* if you still use it for development, please make sure to transfer your projects on time. We will further provide a archive as tar.gz. Regards, Sven [in name of the AI-Team] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWJTiqAAoJEMipVdWfKjFjL/0IALCUJJpmFJaLsjbDRqtgYUVl sYtpGRJzKtDiNJtTsOKVIQabVxEo36N4JnIF4PfoR1iyEfm/twoAHUtlGbz9gABo xT7qD6hFJ3tnZZQOdjQ5HlX+zG0QNMsD+xzcWKgA3TfRvO1P7ndL7pga8U2Auk24 TP6NdnaaQbRDTwvqN6QlR9fAOSoYI6por6WKV8Ia8LH1gjQg+IChcmKeT98blfwu ZTk5jdlt7OKW8LZ+CfOg4RJjmCYQz+eq8rdL8ei+jQCQUpDYq2/Oe89LWS0if8nG q/lf5+GsjKm1mX55aQrT3iFrqsXeR3gtT9F/k1Gs79QLCBEbWmnMy3fc5pzr794= =QoAS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Martin O. R. <ma...@pl...> - 2015-10-19 17:36:41
|
I will make sure we have the correct email dns entries. I will also look into having github login. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 6:18 PM Witek <wit...@gm...> wrote: > I too have the same issue, have tried now a few times to log-in and have > the activation email resent.. still waiting.. nothing in spam folder > either.. > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida < > leo...@gm...> wrote: > >> I tried creating an account some time ago, but haven't received my >> activation e-mail yet (and yes, I did check my spam folder, and asked the >> activation e-mail to be re-sent). >> >> So I, for one, can't use the newfangled system yet :-) >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > |
From: Witek <wit...@gm...> - 2015-10-19 16:17:46
|
I too have the same issue, have tried now a few times to log-in and have the activation email resent.. still waiting.. nothing in spam folder either.. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida < leo...@gm...> wrote: > I tried creating an account some time ago, but haven't received my > activation e-mail yet (and yes, I did check my spam folder, and asked the > activation e-mail to be re-sent). > > So I, for one, can't use the newfangled system yet :-) > > |
From: Leonardo R. A. <leo...@gm...> - 2015-10-19 14:37:56
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I tried creating an account some time ago, but haven't received my activation e-mail yet (and yes, I did check my spam folder, and asked the activation e-mail to be re-sent). So I, for one, can't use the newfangled system yet :-) On 19 October 2015 at 11:32, Jens W. Klein <je...@bl...> wrote: > To rephrase, my last post was a *sigh* yes lets close it, but dont > forget to improve community.plone.org > > And yes, kudos to Martin and the AI team! > > Jens > > On 2015-10-19 15:28, Jens W. Klein wrote: > > On 2015-10-19 15:22, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: > >> 1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so. > >> There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI > >> team does not have resources to support that. > > > > What I found seems to be very experimental, so better wait with it. > > > >> 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem. > > > > Good news! > > > >> 3) > >> I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major > >> feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must > > > > As said: perfect for newbies > > > >> happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway? > > > > Which is true. > > > >> Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per > >> day with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day). > >> So it is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are > >> very interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list, > >> which they get on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. > >> > >> We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new > >> topics per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both. > > > > The current layout and navigation of community.plone.org has its > > problems as I already wrote. No treeish overview is one problem, a > > missing "compact" view-mode another. > > > >> Embrace the future* of message board technology :-) > >> > >> (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a > >> message board) > > > > Well... :-) > > > > Jens > > > >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein > >> <je...@bl... > >> <mailto:je...@bl...>> wrote: > >> > >> The current community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> is > >> missing features to replace this list > >> and support the people behind this list (its consumers). > >> > >> 1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list > is - > >> using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as > an > >> inbox than some webpage. > >> > >> If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this > would be > >> the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers. > >> > >> 2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed > >> meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem > >> with community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. Any github > >> issue tracker does better here. > >> > >> 3) community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> usability/ UX > is > >> far from optimal, 2 examples: > >> > >> 3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read > messages > >> on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>? If I have to > >> read through a browser I'd really > >> prefer more information at once on one screen page. > >> > >> 3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics > with > >> its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view > does > >> better here. > >> > >> > >> Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> > >> is really nice, but its not well > >> done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much > is > >> done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the > scope is > >> broaden we need to make community.plone.org > >> <http://community.plone.org> support features for power > >> users. > >> > >> Jens > >> > >> On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> > >> <http://community.plone.org> working as well as > >> > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list. > >> > > >> > Core-developer category on community.plone.org > >> <http://community.plone.org> > >> > <http://community.plone.org>: > >> https://community.plone.org/c/core-development > >> > > >> > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing > >> > list: > >> > https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152 > >> > > >> > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core > >> > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year. > >> > > >> > Thank you so much. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Plone-developers mailing list > >> > Plo...@li... > >> <mailto:Plo...@li...> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Plone-developers mailing list > >> Plo...@li... > >> <mailto:Plo...@li...> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Plone-developers mailing list > >> Plo...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > >> > > > > > > > -- > Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > |
From: Jens W. K. <je...@bl...> - 2015-10-19 13:35:22
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To rephrase, my last post was a *sigh* yes lets close it, but dont forget to improve community.plone.org And yes, kudos to Martin and the AI team! Jens On 2015-10-19 15:28, Jens W. Klein wrote: > On 2015-10-19 15:22, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: >> 1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so. >> There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI >> team does not have resources to support that. > > What I found seems to be very experimental, so better wait with it. > >> 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem. > > Good news! > >> 3) >> I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major >> feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must > > As said: perfect for newbies > >> happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway? > > Which is true. > >> Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per >> day with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day). >> So it is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are >> very interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list, >> which they get on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. >> >> We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new >> topics per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both. > > The current layout and navigation of community.plone.org has its > problems as I already wrote. No treeish overview is one problem, a > missing "compact" view-mode another. > >> Embrace the future* of message board technology :-) >> >> (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a >> message board) > > Well... :-) > > Jens > >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein >> <je...@bl... >> <mailto:je...@bl...>> wrote: >> >> The current community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> is >> missing features to replace this list >> and support the people behind this list (its consumers). >> >> 1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list is - >> using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as an >> inbox than some webpage. >> >> If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this would be >> the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers. >> >> 2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed >> meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem >> with community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. Any github >> issue tracker does better here. >> >> 3) community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> usability/ UX is >> far from optimal, 2 examples: >> >> 3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read messages >> on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>? If I have to >> read through a browser I'd really >> prefer more information at once on one screen page. >> >> 3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics with >> its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view does >> better here. >> >> >> Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> >> is really nice, but its not well >> done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much is >> done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the scope is >> broaden we need to make community.plone.org >> <http://community.plone.org> support features for power >> users. >> >> Jens >> >> On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> >> <http://community.plone.org> working as well as >> > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list. >> > >> > Core-developer category on community.plone.org >> <http://community.plone.org> >> > <http://community.plone.org>: >> https://community.plone.org/c/core-development >> > >> > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing >> > list: >> https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152 >> > >> > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core >> > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year. >> > >> > Thank you so much. >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Plone-developers mailing list >> > Plo...@li... >> <mailto:Plo...@li...> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> > >> >> >> -- >> Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> <mailto:Plo...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> > > -- Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance |
From: Jens W. K. <je...@bl...> - 2015-10-19 13:29:17
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On 2015-10-19 15:22, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: > 1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so. > There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI > team does not have resources to support that. What I found seems to be very experimental, so better wait with it. > 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem. Good news! > 3) > I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major > feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must As said: perfect for newbies > happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway? Which is true. > Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per > day with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day). > So it is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are > very interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list, > which they get on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. > > We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new > topics per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both. The current layout and navigation of community.plone.org has its problems as I already wrote. No treeish overview is one problem, a missing "compact" view-mode another. > Embrace the future* of message board technology :-) > > (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a > message board) Well... :-) Jens > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein > <je...@bl... > <mailto:je...@bl...>> wrote: > > The current community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> is > missing features to replace this list > and support the people behind this list (its consumers). > > 1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list is - > using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as an > inbox than some webpage. > > If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this would be > the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers. > > 2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed > meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem > with community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. Any github > issue tracker does better here. > > 3) community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> usability/ UX is > far from optimal, 2 examples: > > 3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read messages > on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>? If I have to > read through a browser I'd really > prefer more information at once on one screen page. > > 3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics with > its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view does > better here. > > > Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> > is really nice, but its not well > done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much is > done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the scope is > broaden we need to make community.plone.org > <http://community.plone.org> support features for power > users. > > Jens > > On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> > <http://community.plone.org> working as well as > > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list. > > > > Core-developer category on community.plone.org > <http://community.plone.org> > > <http://community.plone.org>: > https://community.plone.org/c/core-development > > > > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing > > list: > https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152 > > > > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core > > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year. > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Plone-developers mailing list > > Plo...@li... > <mailto:Plo...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > > > > -- > Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > <mailto:Plo...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > -- Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance |
From: Nathan V. G. <van...@gm...> - 2015-10-19 13:26:17
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Thanks Martin, it's time. Developers spend most of their time communicating via github these days and the new mailing lists work fine and are more newbie friendly. Also, of course, it's nice to not have to maintain another server. I appreciate all the work the AI team has done. Thanks, Nathan On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk < ma...@pl...> wrote: > 1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so. > There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI team > does not have resources to support that. > > 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem. > > 3) > I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major > feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must > happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway? > Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per day > with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day). So it > is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are very > interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list, which > they get on community.plone.org. > > We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new topics > per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both. > > Embrace the future* of message board technology :-) > > (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a message > board) > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein <je...@bl...> > wrote: > >> The current community.plone.org is missing features to replace this list >> and support the people behind this list (its consumers). >> >> 1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list is - >> using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as an >> inbox than some webpage. >> >> If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this would be >> the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers. >> >> 2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed >> meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem >> with community.plone.org. Any github issue tracker does better here. >> >> 3) community.plone.org usability/ UX is far from optimal, 2 examples: >> >> 3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read messages >> on community.plone.org? If I have to read through a browser I'd really >> prefer more information at once on one screen page. >> >> 3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics with >> its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view does >> better here. >> >> >> Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org is really nice, but its not well >> done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much is >> done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the scope is >> broaden we need to make community.plone.org support features for power >> users. >> >> Jens >> >> On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> working as well >> as >> > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list. >> > >> > Core-developer category on community.plone.org >> > <http://community.plone.org>: >> https://community.plone.org/c/core-development >> > >> > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing >> > list: >> https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152 >> > >> > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core >> > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year. >> > >> > Thank you so much. >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Plone-developers mailing list >> > Plo...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> > >> >> >> -- >> Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > -- Nathan Van Gheem Solutions Architect Wildcard Corp |
From: Martin O. R. <ma...@pl...> - 2015-10-19 13:22:39
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1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so. There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI team does not have resources to support that. 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem. 3) I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway? Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per day with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day). So it is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are very interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list, which they get on community.plone.org. We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new topics per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both. Embrace the future* of message board technology :-) (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a message board) On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein <je...@bl...> wrote: > The current community.plone.org is missing features to replace this list > and support the people behind this list (its consumers). > > 1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list is - > using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as an > inbox than some webpage. > > If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this would be > the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers. > > 2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed > meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem > with community.plone.org. Any github issue tracker does better here. > > 3) community.plone.org usability/ UX is far from optimal, 2 examples: > > 3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read messages > on community.plone.org? If I have to read through a browser I'd really > prefer more information at once on one screen page. > > 3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics with > its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view does > better here. > > > Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org is really nice, but its not well > done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much is > done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the scope is > broaden we need to make community.plone.org support features for power > users. > > Jens > > On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> working as well as > > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list. > > > > Core-developer category on community.plone.org > > <http://community.plone.org>: > https://community.plone.org/c/core-development > > > > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing > > list: > https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152 > > > > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core > > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year. > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Plone-developers mailing list > > Plo...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > > > > -- > Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > |
From: Jens W. K. <je...@bl...> - 2015-10-19 11:42:59
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The current community.plone.org is missing features to replace this list and support the people behind this list (its consumers). 1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list is - using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as an inbox than some webpage. If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this would be the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers. 2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem with community.plone.org. Any github issue tracker does better here. 3) community.plone.org usability/ UX is far from optimal, 2 examples: 3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read messages on community.plone.org? If I have to read through a browser I'd really prefer more information at once on one screen page. 3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics with its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view does better here. Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org is really nice, but its not well done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much is done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the scope is broaden we need to make community.plone.org support features for power users. Jens On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: > Hi all, > > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> working as well as > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list. > > Core-developer category on community.plone.org > <http://community.plone.org>: https://community.plone.org/c/core-development > > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing > list: https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152 > > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year. > > Thank you so much. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > -- Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance |
From: Martin O. R. <ma...@pl...> - 2015-10-19 09:29:36
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Hi all, With community.plone.org working as well as it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list. Core-developer category on community.plone.org: https://community.plone.org/c/core-development Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing list: https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152 Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year. Thank you so much. |
From: Martin B. <mar...@gm...> - 2015-10-15 05:30:39
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> On 12.10.2015, at 18:22, Maurits van Rees <m.v...@ze...> wrote: > > Op 09/10/15 om 09:41 schreef Martin Bächtold: >> Hi everyone >> >> My name is Martin Baechtold and I’m a developer at >> _https://www.4teamwork.ch_, this is my first message on this list. >> >> I’m maintaining a Plone 4.2 site and I’ve encountered a problem with >> Products.Archetypes 1.8.8 which seems to have been fixed but not >> released yet. The fix I’m interested in is described here: >> https://github.com/plone/Products.Archetypes/blob/1.8.x/CHANGES..txt#L12 >> <https://github.com/plone/Products.Archetypes/blob/1.8.x/CHANGES.txt#L12> >> >> It would be very nice if somebody could cut a new 1.8.x release. > > Sure. I have released 1.8.9. Cool :-) Thank you very much, Maurits! Kind regards, Martin |