Re: [Plone-i18n] Changing LinguaPlone default behaviour

[J M C. E. <jm...@ar...>]

Alexander Limi wrote:

> just saying that you're trying to use LinguaPlone for something it has
> not been designed to do  :)

Yes, that already seemed clear :)

But for a few sites we're currently deploying (and lacking
time/resources to prepare a full alternative where fallback would be
more natural) changing a few content listing interfaces to also show
'content which has not been translated to the current language' still
seems a "lesser evil" (even if it ends up requiring ugly internal hacks)
when compared to the trick of faking language-neutrality in
multiple-language folders (such as i18nfolder): people editing content
will still be able to take advantage of LP, simply learning how to
manage content in the "LinguaPlone way" without a kludgy additional rule
like "remember to leave untranslated documents as language-neutral!".

In any case, even genuine language-neutral objects, although not
rejected by the "LinguaPlone way", seem a bit hard to fully reconcile
with it: a hack similar to the one I intended for fallback seems
necessary to properly support language-neutral objects contained in
non-language-neutral folders, making them visible in navigation trees
and (public) folder content listings under all translations of their
container folder [1].  This may well be expected by end users/readers
(even if, for consistency with the "LP way", and lacking something like
a symbolic link, the object is only seen in a single 'real' place when
using content admin listings/webdav/ftp).

Best regards
                         J Esteves

[1] Not trouble-free of course: one immediately has to face the
possibility of annoying id collisions with objects in the other,
translated, folders, so the nav link could not in general point to a
"ghost object" with a similar id in the other folder; it would have
instead to point to the 'real' language-neutral object in its original
container folder, whatever its language.  And so on.  Nasty stuff...

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