Re: [Gaim-devel] Re: Reply to Nathan

[Ka-Hing C. <ja...@ja...>]

On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 10:28, Closedshop wrote:
> Hi together,
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> I dunno if this mail is delivered to the list, if it arrives twice,
> sorry.

Generally you don't need to email the list and CC the developers.
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> Nathan Walp schrieb:
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> > (moved to gaim-devel)
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> > Based on what i'm reading, you're interested in having file transfer
> > resuming work, and attempting to appeal to our desire for world
> > domination, or something.
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> ;-) I like Gaim. You have done a really  great work !!!
> The babel on the net is concentrated on a "one stop shop".
> This is solidarity and community. I like this, because communicating
> over the internet is one of the greatest developments in this age.
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I don't consider filesharing as a type of "communicating over the
internet"

> This is a general sentence. See downloads.com, what users download are
> instant messengers and Filesharing.
> The users (customers want it). You speal of the overhead of bendwidth
> searches cause. maybe, but there are servers to reduce this in edonkey,
> there is the implemented GUESS-Proposal on Gnutella1 and there is a
> General search for gnutella2.

>From what I read about gnutella2, it doesn't utilize less bandwidth,
just perform searches more aggressively. And the Gnutella developers
don't seem to be quite happy about Shareaza.


> The conclusion for a buddylist is: Why should Gaim not add a Chatroom,
> if any p2p-app makes this possible in a decentral way ? And in the first
> step: if you regard a buddylist, there is often as well
> same-to-same-people on as well as a community.=20
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> All I want to say: there are similarities.=20
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Gaim is an IM client. It even has a napster plugin. It doesn't do
filesharing, but I think it works if you just want to chat.

> Of course anything new has pros and cons, IM should not be Kazaa. We

One major reason why IM is not kazaa is that, instant messaging is very
much legal, while the majority of what's going on other file sharing
systems are questionable at best.

> just decide over the possibility (if it is then made or allowed is
> another thing, and if someone is doing it a third), so just give it room
> to discuss. Don=C2=B4t think balck-white in the first judgement. We are j=
ust
> talking about as small test-plugin as apilot or a model. Maybe others of
> gnutella like to join the plugin-team as well, why not ?
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No one can stops you from writing a plugin, and distribute it outside of
gaim. As long as you GPL it that is.

> Each "REAL" APP like AIM ICQ etc, HAS already Files-swapping as Rob
> mailed in one of his last mails.
> Even the searching, and brwosing and downloading without permission is
> enabled in ICQ ? =20
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Because AOL wants to attract as many users as possible for commercial
interest. I don't think gaim needs/wants to do that.

- Ka-Hing

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