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From: Steve W. <sw...@pa...> - 2001-06-26 20:00:15
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Steve Wainstead wrote:
> so I thought, that's cool, you get both in one style! Speaking of IF, we
> have a lot of dangling if statements of the form:
>
> if (foo)
> statement;
>
> which will have to be excercised...
Er, that's "exorcised"...
~swain
---
http://www.panix.com/~swain/
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
-- Frank Zappa
|
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From: Steve W. <sw...@pa...> - 2001-06-26 19:58:53
|
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Joel Uckelman wrote:
> Me too. I think that's in the spirit of old-skool K&R C. Of course, this sort of thing is how epic flamewars get started. Heh. :)
They are as amusing as tiresome:
spaces vs. tabs
Emacs vs. vi
Linux vs. *bsd
Netscape vs. IE
am I missing any? ;-)
~swain
---
http://www.panix.com/~swain/
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
-- Frank Zappa
|
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From: Steve W. <sw...@pa...> - 2001-06-26 19:57:03
|
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Reini Urban wrote:
> most of it is fine for me, I just don't like the "one true brace" function
> declaractions follow convention:
>
> function fooFunction($arg1, $arg2 = '')
> {
> if (condition) {
> statement;
> }
> return $val;
> }
I think this is a compromise; notice block statements go:
if (foo) {
}
so I thought, that's cool, you get both in one style! Speaking of IF, we
have a lot of dangling if statements of the form:
if (foo)
statement;
which will have to be excercised...
~swain
---
http://www.panix.com/~swain/
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
-- Frank Zappa
|
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From: Joel U. <uck...@no...> - 2001-06-26 19:16:59
|
Quoth Reini Urban: > Steve Wainstead schrieb: > > I've read through the PEAR coding standards and they look good. I'd like > > all the project code to use them. You can take a look at > > http://www.php.net/manual/en/pear.standards.php. > > most of it is fine for me, I just don't like the "one true brace" function > declaractions follow convention: > > function fooFunction($arg1, $arg2 = '') > { > if (condition) { > statement; > } > return $val; > } > > I do: > function fooFunction ($arg1, $arg2 = '') { Me too. I think that's in the spirit of old-skool K&R C. Of course, this sort of thing is how epic flamewars get started. Heh. :) -- J. |
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From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2001-06-26 18:59:51
|
Steve Wainstead schrieb: > I've read through the PEAR coding standards and they look good. I'd like > all the project code to use them. You can take a look at > http://www.php.net/manual/en/pear.standards.php. most of it is fine for me, I just don't like the "one true brace" function declaractions follow convention: function fooFunction($arg1, $arg2 = '') { if (condition) { statement; } return $val; } I do: function fooFunction ($arg1, $arg2 = '') { But I don't think that we could agree to any of these :) And it's not that important. -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@pa...> - 2001-06-26 16:42:42
|
Hello all, I've read through the PEAR coding standards and they look good. I'd like all the project code to use them. You can take a look at http://www.php.net/manual/en/pear.standards.php. ~swain --- http://www.panix.com/~swain/ "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." -- Frank Zappa |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@pa...> - 2001-06-22 16:11:58
|
I fixed the cron jobs today; the $HOME had changed and I committed the sin
of hardcoding my home path into the scripts, which has now changed. Anyway
the nightly tarball and the alpha site should update nightly again.
~swain
---
http://www.panix.com/~swain/
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
-- Frank Zappa
|
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From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2001-06-18 09:45:16
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Joel Uckelman schrieb: > * Diffs against aribtrary page versions are now possible. > * Diff links in page footers work properly. > * Pages display their version numbers. > * Old versions of pages are locked when archived. > http://www.nomic.net/~test/phpwiki/index.php?FrontPage sources? -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ |
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From: J C L. <cl...@ka...> - 2001-06-15 18:24:43
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:28:35 -0300 Sergio A Kessler <ser...@ho...> wrote: > yup, I also started with mysql, and got to a point where I begin > hating it, then I look to postgresql, from there I never come back > to mysql... The fact that the Wiki-esque thing I'm working on is full of three and four way joins and is rather write happy along with other SQl nastiness encouraged the decision to drop MySQL. Too light weight. -- J C Lawrence cl...@ka... ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows |
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From: Sergio A. K. <ser...@ho...> - 2001-06-15 14:24:06
|
----- Original Message ----- From: "J C Lawrence" <cl...@ka...> > >> Odd. I could not visit a page last night without it being > >> riddled with MySQL errors mostly related to being unable to > >> access the DB etc. Today, everything is fine. > > > mysql "features" ... > > Yeah, I'm slowly moving everything off MySQL here. I've had enough > of ISM files getting silently trashed and having to rebuild from > replay logs (almost a dozen times this year alone). PostgresQL > hasn't dropped a byte. yup, I also started with mysql, and got to a point where I begin hating it, then I look to postgresql, from there I never come back to mysql... /sergio |
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:29:05 -0300 Sergio A Kessler <ser...@ho...> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "J C Lawrence" <cl...@ka...> >> Odd. I could not visit a page last night without it being >> riddled with MySQL errors mostly related to being unable to >> access the DB etc. Today, everything is fine. > mysql "features" ... Yeah, I'm slowly moving everything off MySQL here. I've had enough of ISM files getting silently trashed and having to rebuild from replay logs (almost a dozen times this year alone). PostgresQL hasn't dropped a byte. -- J C Lawrence cl...@ka... ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows |
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From: Malcolm R. <mal...@cs...> - 2001-06-15 01:43:39
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I was just browsing through the PhpWiki demonstration Wiki on sourceforge and it occured to me how ironic it is that it is one of the least useful Wikis around. It has the lowest signal-to-noise ratio of any Wiki I've seen. Try reading RecentChanges and you'll see what I mean. For every meaningful page change there are a billion-and-one test pages etc. This is not a criticism of anyone. It's only natural that it is going to happen this way. The demonstration Wiki serves two contradictory purposes: 1) To discuss + documention PhpWiki development, and 2) as a testing ground for new users to play with Wiki. It is this second purpose which means that the demonstration Wiki is going to have higher noise than any other normal Wiki around. What I am getting at is this: perhaps we should create a separate Wiki for discussing PhpWiki development, and make an effort to edit it and keep it useful, whilst directing newbies who want to play to a different test-wiki. Malcolm -- Malcolm Ryan - mal...@cs... - http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~malcolmr/ AI Dept, CSE, UNSW, Australia, Phone: +61 2 9385-6906 Fax: +61 2 9385-4936 "He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous." - Matt 5:45 |
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From: Malcolm R. <mal...@cs...> - 2001-06-15 01:18:33
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:31:09PM -0500, Joel Uckelman wrote: > Most of the things that were listed under Problems are now Fixed, among > them: > > * Diffs against aribtrary page versions are now possible. > * Diff links in page footers work properly. > * Pages display their version numbers. > * Old versions of pages are locked when archived. > > Give it a look: > > http://www.nomic.net/~test/phpwiki/index.php?FrontPage Nice work, Joel. Malcolm -- Malcolm Ryan - mal...@cs... - http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~malcolmr/ AI Dept, CSE, UNSW, Australia, Phone: +61 2 9385-6906 Fax: +61 2 9385-4936 "He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous." - Matt 5:45 |
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From: Joel U. <uck...@no...> - 2001-06-15 00:31:10
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Most of the things that were listed under Problems are now Fixed, among them: * Diffs against aribtrary page versions are now possible. * Diff links in page footers work properly. * Pages display their version numbers. * Old versions of pages are locked when archived. Give it a look: http://www.nomic.net/~test/phpwiki/index.php?FrontPage -- J. |
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From: Sergio A. K. <ser...@ho...> - 2001-06-14 18:24:36
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----- Original Message ----- From: "J C Lawrence" <cl...@ka...> > Odd. I could not visit a page last night without it being riddled > with MySQL errors mostly related to being unable to access the DB > etc. Today, everything is fine. mysql "features" ... (sorry, couldn't resist) /sergio |
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From: J C L. <cl...@ka...> - 2001-06-14 15:35:56
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:07:48 -0500 Joel Uckelman <uck...@no...> wrote: > Quoth J C Lawrence: >> MySQL errors. > Odd. I can see there were errors from the log, but it isn't very > illuminating as to what they were. I've had no trouble accessing > the test Wiki from two computers that its not running on, one > being my desktop system, and the other a box in a different domain > that I have a shell account on. What did it tell you? Odd. I could not visit a page last night without it being riddled with MySQL errors mostly related to being unable to access the DB etc. Today, everything is fine. -- J C Lawrence cl...@ka... ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@pa...> - 2001-06-14 14:11:06
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I had no MySQL errors. JC, this looks really great so far. ~swain On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Joel Uckelman wrote: > Quoth J C Lawrence: > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:51:44 -0500 > > Joel Uckelman <uck...@no...> wrote: > > > > > http://www.nomic.net/~test/phpwiki/index.php > > > > MySQL errors. > > > > -- > > J C Lawrence cl...@ka... > > ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ > > The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows > > Odd. I can see there were errors from the log, but it isn't very illuminating as to what they were. I've had no trouble accessing the test Wiki from two computers that its not running on, one being my desktop system, and the other a box in a different domain that I have a shell account on. What did it tell you? > > -- > J. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwiki-talk mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwiki-talk > --- http://www.panix.com/~swain/ "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." -- Frank Zappa |
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From: Joel U. <uck...@no...> - 2001-06-14 09:07:54
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Quoth J C Lawrence: > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:51:44 -0500 > Joel Uckelman <uck...@no...> wrote: > > > http://www.nomic.net/~test/phpwiki/index.php > > MySQL errors. > > -- > J C Lawrence cl...@ka... > ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ > The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows Odd. I can see there were errors from the log, but it isn't very illuminating as to what they were. I've had no trouble accessing the test Wiki from two computers that its not running on, one being my desktop system, and the other a box in a different domain that I have a shell account on. What did it tell you? -- J. |
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From: J C L. <cl...@ka...> - 2001-06-14 08:24:17
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:51:44 -0500 Joel Uckelman <uck...@no...> wrote: > http://www.nomic.net/~test/phpwiki/index.php MySQL errors. -- J C Lawrence cl...@ka... ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows |
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From: Joel U. <uck...@no...> - 2001-06-14 07:51:48
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I spent tonight hacking on a test Wiki, and now have something that approaches usable versioning. So, everyone please take a look at it, play with it some, (I suppose) try to break it, and let me know what you think. Here it is: http://www.nomic.net/~test/phpwiki/index.php -- J. |
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From: Jeff D. <da...@da...> - 2001-06-14 00:46:50
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An=EDbal, The Spanish browse.html template was indeed screwed up. I'm not sure how= it got to be that way. In any case, your fixes are now checked into the stable branch of the CVS. Thank you very much for pointing out the problem. Jeff |
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From: <ar...@va...> - 2001-06-14 00:06:06
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Ops! Here it is the file I modified. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Dairiki" <da...@da...> To: "An=EDbal Rojas" <ar...@va...> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Bug in browse template spanish translation in version 1.2 > An=EDbal, > > I think you just sent the English version of browse.html. > Try again with your fixed Spanish version? > > Regards, > Jeff > |
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From: <ar...@va...> - 2001-06-13 23:50:03
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Hi, Found a little bug with the Edit link in the spanish translation. I think I fixed it, but chek it anyway. Best regards, great software. An=EDbal Rojas ar...@va... |
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From: J C L. <cl...@ka...> - 2001-06-13 05:59:16
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Adam Shand <la...@sp...> wrote: >> Aye, I'm not a great fan of SociaWikis, mostly because I don't >> think they work very well for that purpose (I'm an email guy). >> For collaborative documentation and development of a >> KnowledgeNase Wikis work exceptionally well. What I'm trying to >> do here is to marry a Wiki, mailing list archives and a K5-ish >> weblog. Early screenshot: ... > if you want another set of eyes and someone to install it and give > feedback i'd *LOVE* to help with this. Work permitting I hope to get a beta out this month (currently work does not look permitting). My user base is crying for it. There's not a whole lot left to do really: -- Finish up the auth supports (based of SourceForge's) -- Fix comment/reply threading (currently way too join happy) -- Finish implementing picon uploads -- Some DB minor normalising (need to norm the handling of WikiItems vs Comments/Replies). -- Bunch of small corner cases surrounding namespace management (side effects of the broken norming to be fixed above) -- Summary pages (tag lists, score lists, date lists, view pattern lists, graph tree models, etc). ... few other small things. > i assume you're writing it in php? Yes. > are you using a database back end? PostgresQL. Its currently very join happy which really needs to be handled. It slaughters the machine with decent hit rates (the target box is spidered regularly and fairly heavily). >> Oh yeah the comments are individual WikiItems as well (I've got >> HeirarchialWikiItems ala WikiItem/SubItem/SubItem with individual >> items able to appear in multiple places in the tree (abstract >> views), as well as the ability for a Item to embed/nest the >> contents of another WikiItem inside itself at display time (think >> quotes)). > this is almost exactly what i was thinking as well. the more i > thought about it the more i decided that it really all the > important tech was there and it was largely a ui design issue. <nod> I don't think I have the UI down. I know I'm not a HIL guy. To an extent I don't think the UI is as important as getting the access mode and view flexibility in there first, especially given that I'm basing off a technical (and therefore somewhat forgiving for the sake of features) audience. > i'd love to see what you've done. Soon I hope. -- J C Lawrence cl...@ka... ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows |