phpwiki-talk

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] INSTALL, README etc. is no longer in the repository

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

Hmm. They are there at the moment:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/phpwiki/phpwiki/

But I did an update and got some strange errors:

cvs server: Updating lib/plugin
P lib/plugin/HelloWorld.php
P lib/plugin/RecentChanges.php
cvs server: internal error: unsupported substitution string -kkkv
U lib/plugin/Toolbar.php

cvs server: Updating themes/MacOSX
U themes/MacOSX/MacOSX-Preview.jpg
cvs server: internal error: unsupported substitution string -kkkv
U themes/MacOSX/MacOSX-heavy.css
cvs server: internal error: unsupported substitution string -kkkv
U themes/MacOSX/MacOSX.css

U themes/MacOSX/locale/en/buttons/ViewMarkup.png
cvs server: Updating themes/MacOSX/templates
cvs server: internal error: unsupported substitution string -kkkv
U themes/MacOSX/templates/browse.html
cvs server: internal error: unsupported substitution string -kkkv
U themes/MacOSX/templates/editpage.html
cvs server: internal error: unsupported substitution string -kkkv
U themes/MacOSX/templates/message.html

~swain

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Carsten Klapp wrote:

> Anyone know what's happened to files in the phpwiki root? I was about to
> commit a small change to INSTALL about the DP.php PEAR error, and the fil=
e
> is=85 gone? (insert sound here of HomerSimpson screaming: "AAAAHHH!" then
> running away)
>
> cvs server: Updating .
> cvs server: .htaccess is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: INSTALL is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: LICENSE is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: README is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: UPGRADING is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: index.php is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: phpwiki-heavy.css is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: phpwiki-modern-heavy.css is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: phpwiki-modern.css is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: phpwiki-printer.css is no longer in the repository
> cvs server: phpwiki.css is no longer in the repository
>
>
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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] newcomer to dynamic web publishing...

[Adam S. <ad...@pe...>]

> > Could you try submiting fresh packages to Debian distro
> > anytime in the future?
>
> if there's any volunteer.

this is on my list of things to do.  it'll probably be a while (read more
then a month but less then six :-) but i will be building some packages
for debian and phpwiki is on the list.

adam.

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] newcomer to dynamic web publishing...

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

Zeljko Blace schrieb:
> 
> are...@nb...
> php...@li...
> 
> Dear Aredridel and other PhpWiki devs,
> I am heaving a few problems installing PHPWiki
> on my WindowsMe laptop(reciving massage...
> Fatal error: Call to undefined function: dba_open() in
> C:\apache\htdocs\phpwiki\lib\DbaDatabase.php on line 32)

define mysql for the database. read INSTALL. default is only berkeley DB.

> my whole install is PHPtriad package which installs:
> Apache,Perl, PHP,MySQL (done by PHPGEEK.com).
> Would you consider aproaching their development and include
> flat file or mySQL version of PHPWiki in their package
> so it would be out of box on single user Windows systems.

both (flat and mysql) work out of the box. read INSTALL and change index.php.

> Other then that I love wiki-concept and would love to use
> it(still not sure if it is going to be Twiki or PhpWiki)
> also on-line for the Multimedia Institute in Zagreb...
> that is why I have to test it before even suggesting to my
> admin to include UNSTABLE package to our admin who keeps
> our Server in very SAFE and STABLE mode:(

a stable and safe windows system seems to be a contradiction.
 
> Could you try submiting fresh packages to Debian distro
> anytime in the future?

if there's any volunteer.

-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/

[Phpwiki-talk] newcomer to dynamic web publishing...

[Zeljko B. <zb...@mi...>]

are...@nb...
php...@li...

Dear Aredridel and other PhpWiki devs,
I am heaving a few problems installing PHPWiki
on my WindowsMe laptop(reciving massage...
Fatal error: Call to undefined function: dba_open() in
C:\apache\htdocs\phpwiki\lib\DbaDatabase.php on line 32)

my whole install is PHPtriad package which installs:
Apache,Perl, PHP,MySQL (done by PHPGEEK.com).
Would you consider aproaching their development and include 
flat file or mySQL version of PHPWiki in their package
so it would be out of box on single user Windows systems.

Other then that I love wiki-concept and would love to use 
it(still not sure if it is going to be Twiki or PhpWiki) 
also on-line for the Multimedia Institute in Zagreb...
that is why I have to test it before even suggesting to my 
admin to include UNSTABLE package to our admin who keeps
our Server in very SAFE and STABLE mode:(

Could you try submiting fresh packages to Debian distro
anytime in the future?

Best wishes and happy New Year!

[Phpwiki-talk] Re: [phpwiki-checkins] CVS: phpwiki/themes/MacOSX

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

Hi All,

Mac OS X theme 1.0 for PhpWiki is here (only in English for now).

I finished polishing up the templates and it took me less time than I 
thought it would, so you have it all tonight. The rest of the buttons are 
there now too, so we are "go" for launch. Better checkout the whole 
/themes/MacOSX directory to test it out.

If you use Mozilla with any of these PhpWiki themes, you should still be 
able to select the "PhpWiki", "Printer" or "Modern" stylesheets 
independently of the chosen theme, by selecting one from the View menu.

Notes are in the comments of the themeinfo.php file. Patches, suggestions,
  complaints all welcome.

Email me or post comments, uncomments, etc. on the SF PhpWiki.

Carsten

[Phpwiki-talk] INSTALL, README etc. is no longer in the repository

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

Anyone know what's happened to files in the phpwiki root? I was about to=20=

commit a small change to INSTALL about the DP.php PEAR error, and the =
file=20
is=85 gone? (insert sound here of HomerSimpson screaming: "AAAAHHH!" =
then=20
running away)

cvs server: Updating .
cvs server: .htaccess is no longer in the repository
cvs server: INSTALL is no longer in the repository
cvs server: LICENSE is no longer in the repository
cvs server: README is no longer in the repository
cvs server: UPGRADING is no longer in the repository
cvs server: index.php is no longer in the repository
cvs server: phpwiki-heavy.css is no longer in the repository
cvs server: phpwiki-modern-heavy.css is no longer in the repository
cvs server: phpwiki-modern.css is no longer in the repository
cvs server: phpwiki-printer.css is no longer in the repository
cvs server: phpwiki.css is no longer in the repository

[Phpwiki-talk] Re: [phpwiki-checkins] CVS: phpwiki/pgsrc TextFormattingRules,1.21,1.22

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

> ! From [no address given]  Tue Dec 18 22:49:56 2001
>   Subject: TextFormattingRules
>   From: [no address given] (PhpWiki)
> ! Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:32:52 -0500
>   Mime-Version: 1.0 (Produced by PhpWiki 1.3.0-jeffs-hacks)
>   Content-Type: application/x-phpwiki;
>     pagename=TextFormattingRules;
>     flags=PAGE_LOCKED;
> !   lastmodified=1008721972;
>   Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


The usual header for unknow addresses goes like this:

>From - Tue Dec 18 22:49:56 2001

At least netscape 4.x and some of my mbox perl scripts likes this more than 
the [] stuff.
And is quoted-printable really necessary? I would prefer Latin-1 by far.
We don't send this over stoneaged mail servers and we don't store this on 7bit
machines.
See http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/WikiPageMailBoxFormat

Content-Type: application/x-phpwiki;
    pagename=TextFormattingRules;
    flags=PAGE_LOCKED;
    lastmodified=1008721972;
    charset="iso-8859-1";
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/

[Phpwiki-talk] [ alexandria-Support Requests-498262 ] CVS stale lock removal: phpwiki

[<no...@so...>]

Support Requests item #498262, was opened at 2001-12-31 23:01
You can respond by visiting:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=498262&group_id=
1

Category: CVS Services
> Group: Second Level Support
> Status: Closed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Carsten Klapp (carstenklapp)
> Assigned to: Jacob Moorman (moorman)
> Summary: CVS stale lock removal: phpwiki

Initial Comment:
Hi,
Please remove a dangling lock in our project's directory. I've rebooted my 
machine and it's been a few hours so all connections would have been reset.

cvs server: Examining .
cvs server: [22:57:39] waiting for carstenklapp's lock in /cvsroot/phpwiki/
phpwiki/themes/Hawaiian

Thank you,
Carsten Klapp
car...@ma...


----------------------------------------------------------------------

> Comment By: Jacob Moorman (moorman)
Date: 2002-01-01 07:15

Message:
Logged In: YES
user_id=152443

Greetings,

Per your request, the stale lock has been removed from the
phpwiki project CVS repository.  Should you require further
assistance from the SourceForge.net team, please submit a
new support request.

Thank you,

Jacob Moorman
Quality of Service Manager, SourceForge.net

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can respond by visiting:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=498262&group_id=
1

[Phpwiki-talk] dangling CVS lock

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

I've filed a support request with SF, a file I committed a few hours ago 
still hasn't released it's CVS lock so something has gone wacky. The 
affected dir is phpwiki/themes/Hawaiian so you might want to avoid it 
until it's been fixed.

Carsten
----
#498262
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=498262&group_id=1&atid=200001
Subject: please remove stuck CVS lock

Hi,
Please remove a dangling lock in our project's directory. I've rebooted my 
machine and it's been a few hours so all connections would have been reset.

cvs server: Examining .
cvs server: [22:57:39] waiting for carstenklapp's lock in /cvsroot/phpwiki/
phpwiki/themes/Hawaiian

Thank you,
Carsten Klapp
car...@ma...

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Tools recommendations for PHP, mySQL

[J C L. <cl...@ka...>]

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:12:22 +0100 
Kishore Balakrishnan <ki...@ca...> wrote:

> 	I would like to see a list of tools that Steve Wainstead et
> al use to make a difference :-)

I believe most use (X)Emacs with one of the php modes.

-- 
J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
cl...@ka...               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Tools recommendations for PHP, mySQL

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

Hi,

I found a trick at macosxhints.com which allows ProjectBuilder to use SSH.
  It works with Sourceforge!

Check out phpwiki/doc/INSTALL.MacOSX for instructions.

Carsten

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Tools recommendations for PHP, mySQL

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

Hi Kishore,

Welcome, it's nice to have another Mac OS X user helping out. (I actually 
didn't know that Steve also uses it!)

Primarily I'm using Project Builder (from the December devtools) and 
MacCVS Pro carbon (sourceforge.net/project/maccvspro).

There is a PB project file checked in to the CVS as a module named 
"phpwiki.pbproj" (under /cvsroot/phpwiki), and you can find some notes 
about using PB with PhpWiki in doc/INSTALL.MacOSX.

MacCVS pro is mostly working well but it's not without it's quirks. For 
one thing it doesn't create local files with the correct modification 
dates when it downloads files (doesn't cause any problems, just annoying). 
Sometimes I use the CVS command-line tools. I tried a couple other clients 
but didn't like their interfaces. Once Project Builder's built-in CVS gets 
it's bugs ironed out and it supports SSH I'll probably just use it's SCM 
facilities.

Steve mentioned Emacs to me so I've started playing with that a bit. It 
looks like an excellent program but I haven't been able to get it all 
working properly ("po mode" works but I can't get php-mode to install, and 
how to access its menu bar is still a mystery.)

For browsers I'm using OmniWeb 4.1b and occasionally Mozilla and iCab. 
Really haven't used iCab much anymore since upgrading from OS 9, OW is my 
main browser now.

For databases, I'm running mySQL and Postgresql, with CocoaSQL (excellent)
  and phpMyAdmin 2.2.1.


It's good that you brought this up, we should collect this info about the 
tools we use and add some notes to doc/README.coding.

Carsten

On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 04:12  am, Kishore Balakrishnan wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> 	In "Never settle for the best" 
> (http://www.google.com/corporate/today.html), it is stated ...Give the 
> proper tools to a group of people who like to make a difference, and they 
> will...
>
> 	I have been using a modified phpwiki behind 
> http://www.carnatic.com/karmasaya/ since 6 months... ( text editor under 
> Mac OS X)
>
> 	The recent version 1.3.2 looks much much better...
>
> 	I have Windows XP  since a few days and want to contribute to the 
> phpWiki project in some way...
>
> 	I want to get started with the best development environment... I have 
> been searching and could not find a list of (recommended) tools used by 
> phpWiki project members...
>
> 	I would like to see a list of tools that Steve Wainstead et al use to 
> make a difference :-)
>
> 	http://www.itworks.demon.co.uk/phpeditors.htm already lists all the 
> PHP Editors...
>
> 		But, If I get a list from this group... I can start with the one 
> tool used by most members...
>
> 	Thanks.
>
> Best Regards, Kishore.
>
> --
>
> http://www.carnatic.com

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Tools recommendations for PHP, mySQL

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

Hi Kishore,

I do all my PhpWiki work on Linux and Mac OS X, but primarily on Linux. My
main tool is Emacs. With Emacs I get syntax highlighting (with the
additional php-mode, available from Sourceforge), shell mode (for running
sql clients, very handy), CVS hooks (C-x v v), and many more features that
make Emacs a great text based IDE.

I have always used Navigator but switched to Mozilla this past year. .9.7
works pretty well.

That's really about it.

cheers
~swain

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Kishore Balakrishnan wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> 	In "Never settle for the best"
> (http://www.google.com/corporate/today.html), it is stated ...Give the
> proper tools to a group of people who like to make a difference, and
> they will...
>
> 	I have been using a modified phpwiki behind
> http://www.carnatic.com/karmasaya/ since 6 months... ( text editor under
> Mac OS X)
>
> 	The recent version 1.3.2 looks much much better...
>
> 	I have Windows XP  since a few days and want to contribute to the
> phpWiki project in some way...
>
> 	I want to get started with the best development environment... I
> have been searching and could not find a list of (recommended) tools
> used by phpWiki project members...
>
> 	I would like to see a list of tools that Steve Wainstead et al use
> to make a difference :-)
>
> 	http://www.itworks.demon.co.uk/phpeditors.htm already lists all the
> PHP Editors...
>
> 		But, If I get a list from this group... I can start with the
> one tool used by most members...
>
> 	Thanks.
>
> Best Regards, Kishore.
>
> --
>
> http://www.carnatic.com
>

---
                  http://www.panix.com/~swain/
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
                     -- Frank Zappa

[Phpwiki-talk] Tools recommendations for PHP, mySQL

[Kishore B. <ki...@ca...>]

Greetings,

	In "Never settle for the best" 
(http://www.google.com/corporate/today.html), it is stated ...Give the 
proper tools to a group of people who like to make a difference, and 
they will...

	I have been using a modified phpwiki behind 
http://www.carnatic.com/karmasaya/ since 6 months... ( text editor under 
Mac OS X)

	The recent version 1.3.2 looks much much better...

	I have Windows XP  since a few days and want to contribute to the 
phpWiki project in some way...

	I want to get started with the best development environment... I 
have been searching and could not find a list of (recommended) tools 
used by phpWiki project members...

	I would like to see a list of tools that Steve Wainstead et al use 
to make a difference :-)

	http://www.itworks.demon.co.uk/phpeditors.htm already lists all the 
PHP Editors...

		But, If I get a list from this group... I can start with the 
one tool used by most members...

	Thanks.

Best Regards, Kishore.

--

http://www.carnatic.com

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] the words 'diff' and "Vergleichen"

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

Oh yes of course! Don't know how I missed that one. :-)

Well, in light of this I... reverse my opinion, to keep diff after all.

(Reminds me of an other popular "geek" term that made it's way into 
mainstream english: "...NOT!")

Carsten

On Saturday, December 29, 2001, at 09:53  pm, J C Lawrence wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:07:52 -0500
> Carsten Klapp <car...@ma...> wrote:
>
>> I'm not happy with the word diff either, for the same unix-ish
>> reason as you mention.
>
> "diff" is a common spoken English contraction of "difference", as in
> "What's the diff?" or, "Does it make any diff?"
>
> --
> J C Lawrence

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] the words 'diff' and "Vergleichen"

[J C L. <cl...@ka...>]

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:07:52 -0500 
Carsten Klapp <car...@ma...> wrote:

> I'm not happy with the word diff either, for the same unix-ish
> reason as you mention. 

"diff" is a common spoken English contraction of "difference", as in
"What's the diff?" or, "Does it make any diff?" 

-- 
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---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
cl...@ka...               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
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[Phpwiki-talk] Re: the words 'diff' and "Vergleichen"

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

Steve Wainstead schrieb:
> I've never been happy with the word 'diff' because it's a Unix tool, and
> about 0.000001% of the world's population knows that. For the common user
> the word has no meaning.
> 
> But I've yet to think of a suitable replacement. The word is nice and
> small. 'CompareToPreviousVersion' is too clunky. Still, I suppose meaning
> over brevity should be the rule. What's the literal translation of
> Vergleichen?

Vergleichen <=> Compare

but why not use the association to the well established term diff?
Difference <=> Unterschied

Carsten, 
There some more problems with your german vocabulary, 
but I have a 1.1.02 deadline. I'll come to de.po later.

> On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Carsten Klapp wrote:
> > I appreciate this great feedback because my German grammar and vocabulary
> > is a little weak, especially when it comes to computers. (Hah, I was
> > surprised the first time I read about "Speicher" in a German computer
> > magazine.)
> >
> > I have no problems with your alterations. I have some time now to make the
> > changes, or you could do them yourself.
> >
> > The Anmelden/Ausmelden I had borrowed from yahoo.de. I've also seen the
> > word 'Link' und 'Links' elsewhere on the Internet used untranslated, and
> > also if there already is a WikiPrecedent (so to speak) for leaving
> > BackLinks untranslated then I agree, let's stick with that.
> >
> > How do you feel about using Vergleichen for diff? This one I really wasn't
> > sure whether to translate, and then I thought of "Äpfel mit Birnen
> > vergleichen". The abbreviated form (vgl.) also seems a little strange to
> > me, but it is the correct abbreviated form according to
> > <http://dict.leo.org>.
> >
> >
> > (Also of interest, apparently operating systems like Mac and Windows each
> > use different German words for things like buttons, checkboxes etc. but I
> > don't know any specific examples.)
> >
> > Carsten
> >
> > On Thursday, December 27, 2001, at 04:11  am, Reini Urban wrote:
> >
> > > Carsten Klapp schrieb:
> > >> ! #: ../templates/browse.html:96
> > >>   msgid "SignOut"
> > >>   msgstr "Ausmelden"
> > >> ! #: ../templates/browse.html:98 ../templates/editpage.html:72
> > >>   msgid "SignIn"
> > >>   msgstr "Anmelden"
> > >> ! #: ../lib/plugin/BackLinks.php:9 ../templates/editpage.html:24
> > >>   msgid "BackLinks"
> > >>   msgstr "Querverbindungen"
> > >
> > > I don't like these translations.
> > > First the words, second the words should be apparent phpwiki pages.
> > > (MagicPages in my lingo: Pages associated with certain actions)
> > >
> > > my suggestions:
> > >
> > > SignOut:   AbMelden
> > > SignIn:    AnMelden
> > >
> > > BackLinks: BackLinks
> > > "All pages which have links to this page".
> > > This should be left untranslated imho.
> > > See the german DseWiki
> > > http://www.wikiservice.at/dse/wiki.cgi?BackLinkFunktion
> > > which also left it untranslated.
> > >
> > > "QuerVerbindungen" denotes a parallel link, something like
> > > RelatedPages or LikePages or NearestPages.
> > > "RückVerbindungen" is horrible.
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] minor CVS problem with binary files (solved)

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

Problem solved with cvs admin -kkv FILE.

<http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/BinaryFilesInCVS>

Carsten

On Saturday, December 29, 2001, at 12:08  am, Carsten Klapp wrote:

> Some files in the PhpWiki CVS I incorrectly checked in as binary. It's no 
> big deal really, but it turns out the $Id keywords aren't being updated 
> for any files tagged as binary (-kb).
>
> I have no idea how to fix this, please help!
>
>
> There are about 20 files, the list is posted at PhpWiki:BinaryFilesInCVS

[Phpwiki-talk] minor CVS problem with binary files

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

Hi,

Some files in the PhpWiki CVS I incorrectly checked in as binary. It's no 
big deal really, but it turns out the $Id keywords aren't being updated 
for any files tagged as binary (-kb).

I have no idea how to fix this, please help!


There are about 20 files, the list is posted at PhpWiki:BinaryFilesInCVS

      <http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/BinaryFilesInCVS>

Carsten

Re: iso-8859-15 (was Re: [Phpwiki-talk] patches 496662, 496654, 496158 completed)

[S. D. <del...@fr...>]

Hello,

28 Dec 2001, 23:58:43, you wrote:

> Questions like:
> - What are all the differences between iso-8859-1 and iso-8859-15?

The  main difference is the support of the Euro symbol=2E There are also
some  little changes about Finnish & French (well, probably characters
rarely used in French, 'cause I neved had problems with iso-8859-1)=2E
See this page for more infos:
http://bearn=2Eeikonex=2Enet/cgi-bin/man2html/usr/share/man/man7/iso-8859-15=
=2E7=2Egz

> - Which browser software, versions, and operating systems know about=20
> iso-8859-15, and which don't?

As far as I know, all are currently supporting it, even Netscape 4 (in
its 4=2E7x versions, not tried with previous versions)=2E

> - Do we need to change all the source code files to iso-8859-15?

Only  where  the  charset  is  declared=2E  ISO-8859-15 is just a better
ISO-8859-1 :)

> - What needs to be investigated to make sure PHP works with iso-8859-15?

It works=2E

> - Does PHP need to be compiled in a special way to understand iso-8859-15?

No=2E Perhaps with PHP3 (again, not tested=2E=2E=2E), but not with PHP4=2E

> - Do all the databases (MySQL, PostgreSQL, Mini SQL etc=2E) work with the=
=20
> euro symbol or should it be converted to € or €?

I  don't know that=2E I never had problems with the euro symbol on MySQL
and  PGSQL,  but I must admit that I did not look precisely how it was
handled=2E

> - Will any code in WikiNameRegExp need to be updated? (The code which=20
> allows accented letters to be used in BumpyWords)

Maybe=2E Actually, it does not work :
in  http://phpwiki=2Esourceforge=2Enet/phpwiki/=80 , the =80 is interpreted =
as
"=E2=82=AC"=2E  Don't  know  if  it'll  remain  with  a  good encoding chars=
et
declared in the headers=2E Maybe yes, maybe not :)

> - If not all browsers work with iso-8859-15, will it be sufficient to use=
=20
> € and/or €?

€  is  not  supported by all browsers (Netscape 4=2E6 and less, for
example, but it's really old)=2E Maybe &#8364, but I doubt of it=2E
But  all  recent  (or  not  recent, see Netscape 4=2E7 :) ), browsers do
support iso-8859-15=2E

Bye,

--=20
 S=2E
 delahaye@frjv=2Eorg

iso-8859-15 (was Re: [Phpwiki-talk] patches 496662, 496654, 496158 completed)

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

Hi,

Oh, just no time to look at that patch yet. :-)

I know nothing about iso-8859-15, and want to answer for myself some=20
questions about it. Also I would want to make sure that nothing else =
will=20
be affected by changing to iso-8859-15. (Also see=20
<http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/Utf8Migration>.)

Questions like:
- What are all the differences between iso-8859-1 and iso-8859-15?
- Which browser software, versions, and operating systems know about=20
iso-8859-15, and which don't?
- Do we need to change all the source code files to iso-8859-15?
- What needs to be investigated to make sure PHP works with iso-8859-15?
- Does PHP need to be compiled in a special way to understand =
iso-8859-15?
- Do all the databases (MySQL, PostgreSQL, Mini SQL etc.) work with the=20=

euro symbol or should it be converted to &euro; or &#8364;?
- Will any code in WikiNameRegExp need to be updated? (The code which=20
allows accented letters to be used in BumpyWords)
- If not all browsers work with iso-8859-15, will it be sufficient to =
use=20
&euro; and/or &#8364;?

Carsten

On Friday, December 28, 2001, at 05:39  pm, S. Delahaye wrote:

> Hello,
>
> 27 Dec 2001, 05:51:16, you wrote:
>
>> I added patches from the SF site #496662, 496654, 496158 into PhpWiki =
so
>> they can be closed off. (I updated the requests with some notes for =
each
>> but can't close them myself).
>
> Just wondering, why not #496664 ?
> Because  iso-8859-15 is theorically the only one western latin =
encoding
> to correctly render the Euro symbol (=80), and Euro is now not so far =
:)
> But maybe I am wrong?
>
> Bye,
>
> --
>  S.
>  del...@fr...

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] French L10N & other stuff

[S. D. <del...@fr...>]

Hello,

27 Dec 2001, 05:33:39, you wrote:

> As far as I know, no one else is working on a French translation yet. I'm 
> sending you (separately) the new instructions and tips for translating 
> PhpWiki 1.3 which I just finished rewriting.

I'll  look at that. I think I'll finish the translation this week-end,
if no new huge page is added into the CVS.

> (P.S Your english is excellent!)

Only because it took me a lot of time to write the mail :)

Bye,

-- 
 S.
 del...@fr...

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] patches 496662, 496654, 496158 completed

[S. D. <del...@fr...>]

Hello,

27 Dec 2001, 05:51:16, you wrote:

> I added patches from the SF site #496662, 496654, 496158 into PhpWiki so=
=20
> they can be closed off=2E (I updated the requests with some notes for each=
=20
> but can't close them myself)=2E

Just wondering, why not #496664 ?
Because  iso-8859-15 is theorically the only one western latin encoding
to correctly render the Euro symbol (=80), and Euro is now not so far :)
But maybe I am wrong?

Bye,

--=20
 S=2E
 delahaye@frjv=2Eorg

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] the words 'diff' and "Vergleichen"

[Carsten K. <car...@ma...>]

Steve,

Vergleichen means "to compare". <http://dict.leo.org/?search=vergleichen>

The abbreviated form "vgl." looks a little odd to me too, but that may 
just be my problem because I'm not very familiar with many german 
abbreviations.

I'm not happy with the word diff either, for the same unix-ish reason as 
you mention. I have already changed the German strings back to diff until 
we come up with something else.

Carsten


On Friday, December 28, 2001, at 04:48  pm, Steve Wainstead wrote:

>
> I've never been happy with the word 'diff' because it's a Unix tool, and
> about 0.000001% of the world's population knows that. For the common user
> the word has no meaning.
>
> But I've yet to think of a suitable replacement. The word is nice and
> small. 'CompareToPreviousVersion' is too clunky. Still, I suppose meaning
> over brevity should be the rule. What's the literal translation of
> Vergleichen?
>
> ~swain

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] the words 'diff' and "Vergleichen"

[S. D. <del...@fr...>]

Hello,

28 Dec 2001, 22:48:12, you wrote:

> But I've yet to think of a suitable replacement. The word is nice and
> small. 'CompareToPreviousVersion' is too clunky. Still, I suppose meaning
> over brevity should be the rule. What's the literal translation of
> Vergleichen?

As far as I remember, it's "compare" (the verb).

PS:  sorry  for the double post, Steve, I hadn't paid attention to the
To: field.

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 S.
 del...@fr...