Re: [Phpwiki-talk] PhpWiki vs. MediaWiki (again)

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

2005/11/6, Oliver Betz <li...@gm...>:
> maybe I missed something, but MediaWiki seems to have a "never forget
> anything" policy. This bloats the database extremly if pages are
> changed many times. I don't think that I want to have such a
> behaviour if I have to pay for disk space.
>
> The same applies for user accounts. You can't delete them anymore.
>
> Besides the disk space problem (which might be no problem on a
> dedicated server), I expect also some impact on performance.
>
> Any comments?

phpwiki runs regular ArchiveCleanup tasks if configured as such,
to delete older revisions. mediawiki not.

phpwiki supports the most database backends from all wiki engines,
mediawiki only mysql and recently psql got better.
phpwiki is tested with a lot of php versions and architectures.

> Is there any comparison in storage efficiency of both candidates? The
> empty PhpWiki database had ~400KB, MediaWiki 1,7MB! But I made no
> tests with content.

phpwiki adds a gzipped cache of the html output in the core db itself, and =
not
in some proxy as mediawiki does.

mediawiki is some kind of very special software for a very special purpose.
they invented their own syntax extensions which were incompatible with
all other wiki's.
  " " =3D> "_"
  links as [[ link ]]
  labeled links the other way round. [[ link | label ]]
  allow <div> and <span>,
  "interesting" adhoc template syntax, "improved" bit by bit
just to name a few.

> Long term support and stability:
>
> Reini wrote 2005-01-05 regarding "Any reasons why somebody _should_
> switch to MediaWiki": "stability, more users, more developers".
>
> On the other hand, he wrote also 2005-09-26: "...considering that
> mediawiki is a one man show only and brian is not accepting a lot."
>
> This confuses me a bit. Any information about this?

Read the mediawiki developers list and their meta wiki.
Brain is a paid employee by wikipedia and the only core developer.
Quite similar to the phpwiki situation.

Recently they made a lot of enhancements in core.
They even added the DB hooks and new template engine, which I planed
for our 1.4.0
It got better, but the architecture is still a big mess, compared to phpwik=
i.
--
Reini Urban
http://phpwiki.org/