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[Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-04 16:38:35

Attachments: lang_pl.sql

Hi there,

    I started figting with WinCVS, but I haven't succeded yet. I'm just
beginning my journey with OpenSource. So I'm sending you frst (scratch)
translation. Put it in repository and some place I could test it on-line,
please. Or maybe there is any easy way to do on my home computer (I don't
have PHP)?
    What about translating genres (f.e. comedy, triller, etc). Is this
posible?

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Re: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-04 16:57:14

Hi Leszek,

Leszek Boroch wrote:
 > I started figting with WinCVS, but I haven't succeded yet. I'm just
 > beginning my journey with OpenSource. So I'm sending you frst
 > (scratch) translation. Put it in repository and some place I could
 > test it on-line, please.

Done - but some probs with your lang file:

Database error: Invalid SQL: INSERT INTO lang (message_id,lang,content) 
VALUES ('not_yet_implemented','en','Niestety, jeszcze nie 
zaimplementowane.')
MySQL Error: 1062 (Duplicate entry 'not_yet_implemented-en' for key 1)
Session halted.

I try to correct this (hopefully I delete the right line - or both are 
exactly the same), just to get some working version in there. Please 
check your file for duplicates and send it in then again - meanwhile I 
try to get your version running here :) (see the demo)

 > Or maybe there is any easy way to do on my home computer (I don't
 > have PHP)?

Without PHP there will be no way.

 >     What about translating genres (f.e. comedy, triller, etc). Is this
 > posible?

Of course, and will be done next. Did I forget to put that into the 2do 
file? Ooops... Tnx for the reminder :)

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Re: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-04 17:00:58

Hi Leszek,

easy one. Forgot to switch language from 'en' to 'pl' within the lang 
file :) Did it by global search and replace, is up and running now. You 
may go and see the demo (and, maybe, set the charset :)

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Re: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-04 17:07:27

> may go and see the demo (and, maybe, set the charset :)

BTW: I thing setting charset in code (constant) would be better, at lest for
web version. Why?
Somebody would start creating database with first charset, and later would
add antries with second. This would create mess in db (in charsets meanning
:). Well, maybe I'm wrong, just thinking ;))
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Re: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-04 17:23:27

Hi Leszek,

Leszek Boroch wrote:
>>may go and see the demo (and, maybe, set the charset :)

Humm, but which one? Iso-8859-2 seems not to fit (at least for Mozilla not).

> BTW: I thing setting charset in code (constant) would be better, at
> lest for web version. Why?
> Somebody would start creating database with first charset, and later
> would add antries with second. This would create mess in db (in
>  charsets meanning
> :). Well, maybe I'm wrong, just thinking ;))

No, you are absolutely right on this. But the problem is: to which 
charset should it be hard coded? I can only propagate one in the HTML 
header. So let's assume, I hardcode it to iso-8859-1 in the db. Now you 
install it and decide on iso-8859-2. YOUR entries in the db would look 
correct - but the whole setup will be a mess, since default values 
(configuration and technical stuff) would use a different charset... 
They do now as well, in fact... Did not think about this thoroughly up 
to now, so I'm open for ideas :)

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RE: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Tom A. <to...@ko...> - 2001-09-04 17:32:00

Hmm... Never worked with charsets. Isn't there a way to put them
in a 'universal' manner in the db and when the right charset is
chosen it looks like something?

Tom

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> translation
>
>
> Hi Leszek,
>
> Leszek Boroch wrote:
> >>may go and see the demo (and, maybe, set the charset :)
>
> Humm, but which one? Iso-8859-2 seems not to fit (at
> least for Mozilla not).
>
> > BTW: I thing setting charset in code (constant)
> would be better, at
> > lest for web version. Why?
> > Somebody would start creating database with first
> charset, and later
> > would add antries with second. This would create
> mess in db (in
> >  charsets meanning
> > :). Well, maybe I'm wrong, just thinking ;))
>
> No, you are absolutely right on this. But the problem
> is: to which
> charset should it be hard coded? I can only propagate
> one in the HTML
> header. So let's assume, I hardcode it to iso-8859-1
> in the db. Now you
> install it and decide on iso-8859-2. YOUR entries in
> the db would look
> correct - but the whole setup will be a mess, since
> default values
> (configuration and technical stuff) would use a
> different charset...
> They do now as well, in fact... Did not think about
> this thoroughly up
> to now, so I'm open for ideas :)
>
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Re: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-04 17:42:31

Hi Tom,

Tom Albers wrote:
> Hmm... Never worked with charsets. Isn't there a way to put them
> in a 'universal' manner in the db and when the right charset is
> chosen it looks like something?

Unicode (UTF8)? Never worked with that - but that would do exactly this. 
Alternative: use &html; codes instead of special chars. No smiley, since 
I could use PHP's conversion mechanism to store all information 
html-coded into the db. No need to port it back, since it will be 
displayed by a web browser. Thus, user entered data would be completely 
charset independant - only the users PHP installation would have to know 
what charset is in use. Two problems with this:
1) afaik PHP does this conversion always using iso-8859-1 (if not fixed)
2) if somebody wants to read the database from within another app...
    (s)he's lost - except that app understands teh HTML code natively

Opinions?

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RE: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Tom A. <to...@ko...> - 2001-09-04 17:58:32

No idea really (again never worked with it).

But if you insist, since this is a php application, in 99 out of
100 cases it will be viewd in a browser. So I guess html-codes
would be the solution. Ditch the charset ;-)

Tom

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> Van:
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> [mailto:php...@li...urceforge.
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> Verzonden: dinsdag 4 september 2001 19:48
> Aan: php...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish
> translation
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Tom Albers wrote:
> > Hmm... Never worked with charsets. Isn't there a way
> to put them
> > in a 'universal' manner in the db and when the right
> charset is
> > chosen it looks like something?
>
> Unicode (UTF8)? Never worked with that - but that
> would do exactly this.
> Alternative: use &html; codes instead of special
> chars. No smiley, since
> I could use PHP's conversion mechanism to store all
> information
> html-coded into the db. No need to port it back, since
> it will be
> displayed by a web browser. Thus, user entered data
> would be completely
> charset independant - only the users PHP installation
> would have to know
> what charset is in use. Two problems with this:
> 1) afaik PHP does this conversion always using
> iso-8859-1 (if not fixed)
> 2) if somebody wants to read the database from within
> another app...
>     (s)he's lost - except that app understands teh
> HTML code natively
>
> Opinions?
>
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>
>
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Re: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-04 18:35:13

Hi Tom,

Tom Albers wrote:

> No idea really (again never worked with it).

Ah, so we are two already :)

> But if you insist, since this is a php application, in 99 out of
> 100 cases it will be viewd in a browser. So I guess html-codes
> would be the solution. Ditch the charset ;-)

Guess I catch some information on this first. In our company, there are 
a couple of Java coders, and I heard the word "UTF8" from time to time - 
so somebody can surely tell me something about it.

Okay, but now I go home - 11 hours at work are enough :)

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Re: [Phpvideopro-developers] First Polish translation

From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-04 18:48:28

> Guess I catch some information on this first. In our company, there are
> a couple of Java coders, and I heard the word "UTF8" from time to time -
> so somebody can surely tell me something about it.

There are few Unicode codings schemes (8 bit, 2 byte, changing lenght or
something like that), and UTF8 is one of them. I'll have more info

> Okay, but now I go home - 11 hours at work are enough :)

Right, let's go home ;))

Borek
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