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From: Jordan M. <jm...@MI...> - 2002-10-26 17:25:21
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On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 03:50 AM, Chad wrote: > Woohoo, closing in on it, just some cosmetic stuff and do a month > view. Should be done tomorrow and then I will start list view. Chad, that looks quite nifty... What program is that you're using for the RSS feed? Also, is it possible to have a third level of view after the events themselves, showing the comments to the events? Just day-dreaming... Jordan |
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From: Chad <ch...@ch...> - 2002-10-26 07:51:04
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Woohoo, closing in on it, just some cosmetic stuff and do a month view. Should be done tomorrow and then I will start list view. |
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From: Chad <ch...@ch...> - 2002-10-25 20:42:52
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Any volunteers for maintaining the FAQ on our web site? |
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From: Jared <xe...@si...> - 2002-10-25 17:10:32
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My code correctly handles multiple EXDATEs on the same line as well as multiple EXDATE= separated by line. I've also implemented the single changed events so if someone wants to download the CVS and test it out for me, I'd be much appreciative. I tested it myself but like proofreading one's own paper, it's never as good as someone else doing it. Now, on to finish search.php. -Jared On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 07:27 AM, Waitman C. Gobble wrote: > hello > > i haven't looked at the code closely, however a pointer - keep in mind > that multiple EXDATE lines are quite possible. (ie there is no limit to > the number of individual EXDATEs that can show up for each recurring > event). > > take care > > Waitman Gobble > EMK Design > Buena Park CA 90621 > +1.7145222528 > http://emkdesign.com > > > On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 14:49, Jared wrote: > Well, EXDATE should be honored. I implemented the code for that a > few > versions ago. I will check into why it stopped working. With 0.7 > there > were a lot of code changes to the parser so it might not work > anymore. > > As for single changed events, I haven't done that yet but am > planning > on it. I have an idea in mind, too, so hopefully it won't be > difficult. > > -Jared > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future > of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community > Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0003en > _______________________________________________ > Phpicalendar-devel mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpicalendar-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future > of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community > Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0004en > _______________________________________________ > Phpicalendar-devel mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpicalendar-devel |
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From: Waitman C. G. <wa...@em...> - 2002-10-25 12:24:34
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hello i haven't looked at the code closely, however a pointer - keep in mind that multiple EXDATE lines are quite possible. (ie there is no limit to the number of individual EXDATEs that can show up for each recurring event). take care Waitman Gobble EMK Design Buena Park CA 90621 +1.7145222528 http://emkdesign.com On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 14:49, Jared wrote: Well, EXDATE should be honored. I implemented the code for that a few versions ago. I will check into why it stopped working. With 0.7 there were a lot of code changes to the parser so it might not work anymore. As for single changed events, I haven't done that yet but am planning on it. I have an idea in mind, too, so hopefully it won't be difficult. -Jared ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0003en _______________________________________________ Phpicalendar-devel mailing list Php...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpicalendar-devel |
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From: Jordan M. <jm...@MI...> - 2002-10-25 02:22:39
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EXDATE is not broken for me. It's just the single changed event that doesn't display properly, because there was never an EXDATE to delete it, so it's still displayed. Thanks for your efforts. phpicalendar is quite excellent! Jordan On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 07:43 PM, Jared wrote: > As far as my testing goes, EXDATE still works properly. I didn't have > to change anything. See this link: > http://ical.silter.org/phpicalendar/ > month.php?cal=Jareds32Classes&getdate=20021024 > > You'll notice that on the 1st and 2nd, and 18, and 21, I have no > classes. I deleted the entries in iCal and they are EXDATEs in the > .ics file. Please supply a full .ics file where this is broken so I > can test the calendar myself while debugging it. > > I still have to implement single changed events, though. > > -Jared |
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From: Bill F. <fe...@re...> - 2002-10-25 01:48:03
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Oh, this uses RECURRENCE-ID instead of EXDATE to make the change. I hadn't experienced this before since the palm datebook just uses EXDATE and creates a whole new entry. Given that phpicalendar doesn't care about the relationships between events, this could just be interpreted as a request to delete the event occurrence that happens at the time of the RECURRENCE-ID and has the same UID and create the new event. This could be implemented without worrying about the order of the events in the file by deleting the event if it's already there, or otherwise creating a placeholder "black-hole" event in the master_array that the repeat code would notice and skip. Bill |
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From: Jared <xe...@si...> - 2002-10-25 00:03:28
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As far as my testing goes, EXDATE still works properly. I didn't have to change anything. See this link: http://ical.silter.org/phpicalendar/ month.php?cal=Jareds32Classes&getdate=20021024 You'll notice that on the 1st and 2nd, and 18, and 21, I have no classes. I deleted the entries in iCal and they are EXDATEs in the .ics file. Please supply a full .ics file where this is broken so I can test the calendar myself while debugging it. I still have to implement single changed events, though. -Jared On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 04:49 PM, Jared wrote: > Well, EXDATE should be honored. I implemented the code for that a few > versions ago. I will check into why it stopped working. With 0.7 there > were a lot of code changes to the parser so it might not work anymore. > > As for single changed events, I haven't done that yet but am planning > on it. I have an idea in mind, too, so hopefully it won't be > difficult. > > -Jared > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) > technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0003en > _______________________________________________ > Phpicalendar-devel mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpicalendar-devel |
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From: Jared <xe...@si...> - 2002-10-24 21:50:05
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Well, EXDATE should be honored. I implemented the code for that a few versions ago. I will check into why it stopped working. With 0.7 there were a lot of code changes to the parser so it might not work anymore. As for single changed events, I haven't done that yet but am planning on it. I have an idea in mind, too, so hopefully it won't be difficult. -Jared |
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From: Jordan M. <jm...@MI...> - 2002-10-24 21:39:13
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No, wait, here's the right stuff. Sorry... It looks like the way iCal implements the edit I made is to not include 10/24/02 as an "EXDATE" even though it should be. It puts my edit of 1-2:30 pm as a new entry entirely, so they are both displayed... BEGIN:VEVENT SEQUENCE:8 DTSTAMP:20021014T035519Z SUMMARY:7.02 TA\, Lab DTEND;TZID=US/Eastern:20020910T180000 EXDATE;TZID=US/Eastern:20021015T130000 UID:CD74D485-C6C4-11D6-8055-0050E4A08D6F DTSTART;TZID=US/Eastern:20020910T130000 RRULE:FREQ=WEEKLY;UNTIL=20021212T045959;INTERVAL=1;BYDAY=TU,TH END:VEVENT BEGIN:VEVENT RECURRENCE-ID;TZID=US/Eastern:20021024T130000 SEQUENCE:9 DTSTART;TZID=US/Eastern:20021024T130000 DTEND;TZID=US/Eastern:20021024T143000 UID:CD74D485-C6C4-11D6-8055-0050E4A08D6F DTSTAMP:20021024T051413Z END:VEVENT |
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From: Jordan M. <jm...@MI...> - 2002-10-24 21:26:18
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On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 02:48 PM, Bill Fenner wrote: > Can you share the entries from the .ics file associated with this? > (Either the whole exported calendar, or just the entries between > BEGIN:VEVENT and END:VEVENT corresponding with this event, there are > probably multiple). > > Bill Ok... I just did a string search for 20021024. here is what it came up with: Right at the beginning of the file there's this: BEGIN:VCALENDAR CALSCALE:GREGORIAN PRODID:-//Apple Computer\, Inc//iCal 1.0//EN X-WR-CALNAME;VALUE=TEXT:Work X-WR-TIMEZONE;VALUE=TEXT:US/Eastern VERSION:2.0 BEGIN:VEVENT SEQUENCE:10 DTSTAMP:20020916T144235Z SUMMARY:7.02 Setup EXDATE;TZID=US/Eastern:20020924T100000 EXDATE;TZID=US/Eastern:20021024T100000 EXDATE;TZID=US/Eastern:20021015T100000 EXDATE;TZID=US/Eastern:20020926T100000 UID:A827CEFE-C6C4-11D6-8055-0050E4A08D6F DTSTART;TZID=US/Eastern:20020910T100000 DURATION:PT1H RRULE:FREQ=WEEKLY;UNTIL=20021212T045959;INTERVAL=1;BYDAY=TU,TH END:VEVENT Later on there's this: BEGIN:VEVENT RECURRENCE-ID;TZID=US/Eastern:20021024T130000 SEQUENCE:9 DTSTART;TZID=US/Eastern:20021024T130000 DTEND;TZID=US/Eastern:20021024T143000 UID:CD74D485-C6C4-11D6-8055-0050E4A08D6F DTSTAMP:20021024T051413Z END:VEVENT Does that help? Thanks, Jordan |
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From: Bill F. <fe...@re...> - 2002-10-24 18:48:41
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>- creating an iCal with repeating events displays correctly. However, >if a single occurrence of these repeated events is deleted, it will >still be displayed. Moreover, if a single occurrence of a repeated >event is simply shortened, both the shortened version and the normal >repeated version will be displayed for the same time slot. Can you share the entries from the .ics file associated with this? (Either the whole exported calendar, or just the entries between BEGIN:VEVENT and END:VEVENT corresponding with this event, there are probably multiple). Bill |
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From: Chad <ch...@ch...> - 2002-10-24 18:47:19
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Now that Jared's gotten search partially started, it looks like it would be a nice way to also do List view (or printer view). Inside the box we can be much more informative to the user, not needing popups, like so: Date: Wednesday, August 4th Time: 8:00 AM - 10:00 AM Summary: Film Showing Description: Garret's Film "The Suprise Party", is playing in Palo Alto. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Date: Wednesday August 4th - Sunday, August 8th Summary: Flying Home ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Each view (day, week, month, year) will have a printer icon in the top nav on the left. It will link to the list view page and contain all the details above for that view . Day will only list that days events, week that weeks events, ect... We'll also need languages up to speed on this once we've laid out the pages. Just some ideas I wanted to jot down. :-) -C |
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From: Chad <ch...@ch...> - 2002-10-24 07:46:19
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Both are known issues and are in the SourceForge lists. Multiple =20 calendars while possible presents certain issues pertaining to speed =20 and overlapping events, and will probably not be likely anytime before =20= 1.0. Jared I believe is looking into the changing of recurrance, I'm not =20 sure if its in the ical spec or not. -C On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 11:53 PM, Jordan Miller wrote: > I would like to report a bug: > > =95 creating an iCal with repeating events displays correctly. = However, =20 > if a single occurrence of these repeated events is deleted, it will =20= > still be displayed. Moreover, if a single occurrence of a repeated =20 > event is simply shortened, both the shortened version and the normal =20= > repeated version will be displayed for the same time slot. > > Please see the related screen shot: > http://www.mit.edu/~jmil/phpicalendar_dualevent.jpg > > The "7.02 TA, Lab" event is a recurring event. The single occurrence =20= > of this event on Thursday was modified to end at 2:30 pm, however the =20= > repeated event is still displayed. > > > Feature request: > > I don't know if this has already been mentioned or if there is a way =20= > to do this, but it would be nice to be able to display multiple =20 > calendars at the same time, in the same window, color coded... > > Thanks, > Jordan > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) =20= > technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. = =20 > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;4729346;7592162;s?http://www.sun.com/=20 > javavote > _______________________________________________ > Phpicalendar-devel mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpicalendar-devel |
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From: Michel <mi...@la...> - 2002-10-24 07:07:16
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On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 02:44 AM, dre wrote: > this is not an issue on the browser end but on the server end. > It actually is a configuration that needs to be done in httpd.conf > (DirectoryIndex), but since there probably are other people that don't > have access to the Apache configuration file it might be a good idea > to add the proposed 'index.html' anyway. Because some people don't have access to the httpd.conf configuration file, they can modify their server configuration by adding a .htaccess file in the proper directory they want to modify. Just type this line in the .htaccess file: DirectoryIndex index.php index.html This could be explained in the phpicalendar README file. |
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From: Jordan M. <jm...@MI...> - 2002-10-24 06:54:52
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Good to know, David. Thanks. Jordan On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 02:44 AM, dre wrote: > Jordan, > > this is not an issue on the browser end but on the server end. > It actually is a configuration that needs to be done in httpd.conf > (DirectoryIndex), but since there probably are other people that don't > have > access to the Apache configuration file it might be a good idea to add > the > proposed 'index.html' anyway. > > - David. |
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From: Jordan M. <jm...@MI...> - 2002-10-24 06:53:06
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I would like to report a bug: =95 creating an iCal with repeating events displays correctly. However,=20= if a single occurrence of these repeated events is deleted, it will=20 still be displayed. Moreover, if a single occurrence of a repeated=20 event is simply shortened, both the shortened version and the normal=20 repeated version will be displayed for the same time slot. Please see the related screen shot: http://www.mit.edu/~jmil/phpicalendar_dualevent.jpg The "7.02 TA, Lab" event is a recurring event. The single occurrence of=20= this event on Thursday was modified to end at 2:30 pm, however the=20 repeated event is still displayed. Feature request: I don't know if this has already been mentioned or if there is a way to=20= do this, but it would be nice to be able to display multiple calendars=20= at the same time, in the same window, color coded... Thanks, Jordan= |
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From: dre <dr...@an...> - 2002-10-24 06:45:05
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Jordan, this is not an issue on the browser end but on the server end. It actually is a configuration that needs to be done in httpd.conf (DirectoryIndex), but since there probably are other people that don't have access to the Apache configuration file it might be a good idea to add the proposed 'index.html' anyway. - David. -----Original Message----- From: php...@li... [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of Jordan Miller Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:36 AM To: php...@li... Subject: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] index.html? Hi, phpicalendar is great, thanks! I had a minor feature request, more for others than myself. Most web browsers that I have used don't automatically load the index.php page in a given directory. Rather, index.html is assumed. So, how about a simple index.html file in phpicalendar distribution with the following: <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=refresh content="0; URL=./index.php"> </head> </html> That way, when the user types in the web address, ending in the phpicalendar-0.7 folder, it will automatically load index.php. What do you think? Jordan ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;4729346;7592162;s?http://www.sun.com/javavote _______________________________________________ Phpicalendar-devel mailing list Php...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpicalendar-devel |
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From: Jordan M. <jm...@MI...> - 2002-10-24 06:36:33
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Hi, phpicalendar is great, thanks! I had a minor feature request, more for others than myself. Most web browsers that I have used don't automatically load the index.php page in a given directory. Rather, index.html is assumed. So, how about a simple index.html file in phpicalendar distribution with the following: <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=refresh content="0; URL=./index.php"> </head> </html> That way, when the user types in the web address, ending in the phpicalendar-0.7 folder, it will automatically load index.php. What do you think? Jordan |
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From: Chad <ch...@ch...> - 2002-10-23 16:37:28
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I have a version of this now in CVS, I will still play / tweek it a bit, and probably build a drop down that does that same thing as well. -C On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 02:43 PM, Bill Fenner wrote: > > Ok, I moved it over to the top right-hand sidebar box. It's easy to > make > configurable there, too. > > This makes it show up in the week view too, which ends up being a > little > odd because the week view already has ways to jump to the right days, > but > I figured since the little forward and back buttons at the top of this > sidebar go to the day view, it's OK for this to do the same. > > Bill > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future > of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community > Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;4699841;7576301;v?http://www.sun.com/ > javavote > _______________________________________________ > Phpicalendar-devel mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpicalendar-devel |
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From: dre <dr...@an...> - 2002-10-23 06:51:22
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Chad,
I had to change that at one point, because start and end times were not
rounded the same way, which resulted in events that visually overlapped but
actually (based on the real times) didn't.
So at the moment start and end times are rounded following the same logic:
- in draw_functions.php
$sta_min = sprintf("%02d", floor($sta_min / $gridLength) * $gridLength);
// same for end time
i.e. all minutes are rounded _down_ to next grid point (e.g. :13 is rounded
down to :00). My decision was based on the start time: better display the
start of the event earlier than later...
So, if we want to change that behaviour it's only to be changed in the
'drawEventTimes' routine, although - as mentioned above - it must be
consistent for start and end times. All calculations for overlapping events
are based on the returned drawTimes.
David.
-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of Chad
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:58 PM
To: php...@li...
Subject: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] Rounding of event times
Drei -
Event times seem to always round down, like 7:13 will round to 7:00. Is
there anything we can do about this is or is it needed to properly
figure out overlapping events?
-C
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From: Chad <ch...@ch...> - 2002-10-23 01:15:03
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Ohh... hehe.... we need to work it into the truncate function to ignore
hrefs if they are already in there too.
With this example we definitely need to create a function for
displaying text, maybe I'll look at it this weekend.
-C
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 05:46 PM, Jared wrote:
> $text = ereg_replace("[[:alpha:]]+://[^<>[:space:]]+[[:alnum:]/]", "<a
> href=\"\\0\">\\0</a>", $text);
>
> He said he used the sample from the ereg_replace() man page. :)
> Basically, it's the same thing forum software does to make the URLs in
> posts clickable.
>
> -Jared
>
> On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 06:05 PM, Chad wrote:
>
>> That is cool, how'd you do that? It's one of the feature requests I
>> believe.
>>
>> -C
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 03:28 PM, Bill Fenner wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I modified event.php to use the sample regexp in the php
>>> ereg_replace()
>>> man page to make URLs clickable. I just used '<a target="_new" ...'
>>> to
>>> open a new window, but at least with Mozilla 1.0 that creates a
>>> somewhat
>>> randomly sized new window; perhaps the better web designers among us
>>> can
>>> tell me how to do that right =)
>>>
>>> Here's a sample event - go to
>>>
>>> http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/test/phpicalendar/
>>> day.php?cal=billpub&getdate=20021018
>>>
>>> and get the details of the 3:15 "Stanford Alumni Film Festival"
>>> event.
>>>
>>> What do people think about this change?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
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From: Jared <xe...@si...> - 2002-10-23 01:06:24
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$text = ereg_replace("[[:alpha:]]+://[^<>[:space:]]+[[:alnum:]/]", "<a
href=\"\\0\">\\0</a>", $text);
He said he used the sample from the ereg_replace() man page. :)
Basically, it's the same thing forum software does to make the URLs in
posts clickable.
-Jared
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 06:05 PM, Chad wrote:
> That is cool, how'd you do that? It's one of the feature requests I
> believe.
>
> -C
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 03:28 PM, Bill Fenner wrote:
>
>>
>> I modified event.php to use the sample regexp in the php
>> ereg_replace()
>> man page to make URLs clickable. I just used '<a target="_new" ...'
>> to
>> open a new window, but at least with Mozilla 1.0 that creates a
>> somewhat
>> randomly sized new window; perhaps the better web designers among us
>> can
>> tell me how to do that right =)
>>
>> Here's a sample event - go to
>>
>> http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/test/phpicalendar/
>> day.php?cal=billpub&getdate=20021018
>>
>> and get the details of the 3:15 "Stanford Alumni Film Festival" event.
>>
>> What do people think about this change?
>>
>> Bill
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From: Chad <ch...@ch...> - 2002-10-22 23:05:27
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That is cool, how'd you do that? It's one of the feature requests I believe. -C On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 03:28 PM, Bill Fenner wrote: > > I modified event.php to use the sample regexp in the php ereg_replace() > man page to make URLs clickable. I just used '<a target="_new" ...' to > open a new window, but at least with Mozilla 1.0 that creates a > somewhat > randomly sized new window; perhaps the better web designers among us > can > tell me how to do that right =) > > Here's a sample event - go to > > http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/test/phpicalendar/ > day.php?cal=billpub&getdate=20021018 > > and get the details of the 3:15 "Stanford Alumni Film Festival" event. > > What do people think about this change? > > Bill > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future > of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community > Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;4699841;7576301;v?http://www.sun.com/ > javavote > _______________________________________________ > Phpicalendar-devel mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpicalendar-devel |
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From: Bill F. <fe...@re...> - 2002-10-22 22:28:50
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I modified event.php to use the sample regexp in the php ereg_replace() man page to make URLs clickable. I just used '<a target="_new" ...' to open a new window, but at least with Mozilla 1.0 that creates a somewhat randomly sized new window; perhaps the better web designers among us can tell me how to do that right =) Here's a sample event - go to http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/test/phpicalendar/day.php?cal=billpub&getdate=20021018 and get the details of the 3:15 "Stanford Alumni Film Festival" event. What do people think about this change? Bill |
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