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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-05-27 22:13:08
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Bugs item #1975575, was opened at 2008-05-27 15:13 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=1975575&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: User Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: dashboard survey list Initial Comment: When I go to <root>/phpESP/public/dashboard.php, I get the following error below the Login box where the list of survey's should be: -------------------------------- Notice: Undefined index: superuser in /nfs/c01/h05/mnt/37168/domains/remedy.fm/html/phpESP/admin/include/lib/espsurvey.inc on line 156 Notice: Undefined index: pall in /nfs/c01/h05/mnt/37168/domains/remedy.fm/html/phpESP/admin/include/lib/espsurvey.inc on line 158 Notice: Undefined index: pdata in /nfs/c01/h05/mnt/37168/domains/remedy.fm/html/phpESP/admin/include/lib/espsurvey.inc on line 158 Warning: array_intersect() [function.array-intersect]: Argument #1 is not an array in /nfs/c01/h05/mnt/37168/domains/remedy.fm/html/phpESP/admin/include/lib/espsurvey.inc on line 158 Notice: Undefined index: username in /nfs/c01/h05/mnt/37168/domains/remedy.fm/html/phpESP/admin/include/lib/espsurvey.inc on line 162 ---------------------------------------- I can't figure out what is wrong and why this is erroring out. Has anyone else had the same problem? Email: Ni...@re... Thanks, Nick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=1975575&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-05-27 11:21:57
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Feature Requests item #1974528, was opened at 2008-05-27 11:29 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by arturmail You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1974528&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Artur Kusmierek (arturmail) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: unique answers within a question Initial Comment: Is there any chance to get unique answers within one question? For example in a rate one the options are: "1", "2" and "3" and these shouldn't repeat so I should get one "1" rank, one "2" rank and one "3" rank within one question. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Artur Kusmierek (arturmail) Date: 2008-05-27 13:22 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=2066340 Originator: YES I've noticed but this is not a solution for my problem. I would like uniquely rank a question within a range (for example from 1 to 3). I cannot use textbox, essay or numerical type of question because a respondent is able to put some ranks out of my range (in this particular case for example "5"). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Franky Van Liedekerke (liedekef) Date: 2008-05-27 12:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=109671 Originator: NO unique answers are possible for certain types of questions (textbox, essay, numerical), see the changelog in version 2.1.0 Franky ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1974528&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-05-27 10:13:29
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Feature Requests item #1974528, was opened at 2008-05-27 11:29 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by liedekef You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1974528&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Artur Kusmierek (arturmail) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: unique answers within a question Initial Comment: Is there any chance to get unique answers within one question? For example in a rate one the options are: "1", "2" and "3" and these shouldn't repeat so I should get one "1" rank, one "2" rank and one "3" rank within one question. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Franky Van Liedekerke (liedekef) Date: 2008-05-27 12:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=109671 Originator: NO unique answers are possible for certain types of questions (textbox, essay, numerical), see the changelog in version 2.1.0 Franky ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1974528&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-05-27 09:29:07
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Feature Requests item #1974528, was opened at 2008-05-27 11:29 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1974528&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Artur Kusmierek (arturmail) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: unique answers within a question Initial Comment: Is there any chance to get unique answers within one question? For example in a rate one the options are: "1", "2" and "3" and these shouldn't repeat so I should get one "1" rank, one "2" rank and one "3" rank within one question. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1974528&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-05-22 13:42:45
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Feature Requests item #1969585, was opened at 2008-05-22 08:32 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by greggmc You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1969585&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: survey format Group: None >Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Conditional Questions Initial Comment: Would it be possible in a future version to have conditional question logic or skip question logic. Where if the tool were used as a satisfaction survey and the question was "Are you happy with your experience of our site" if the user chooses yes, they would skip 5 questions but if they select No they are asked why they weren't happy with their experience. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Matthew Gregg (greggmc) Date: 2008-05-22 08:42 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=14116 Originator: NO Have seen the condition logic already in the current version? I'm pretty sure that can be adapted for this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Franky Van Liedekerke (liedekef) Date: 2008-05-22 08:42 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=109671 Originator: NO This is already possible in the latest released version (and the one before that ...) Franky ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1969585&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-05-22 13:42:40
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Feature Requests item #1969585, was opened at 2008-05-22 15:32 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by liedekef You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1969585&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: survey format Group: None >Status: Closed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Conditional Questions Initial Comment: Would it be possible in a future version to have conditional question logic or skip question logic. Where if the tool were used as a satisfaction survey and the question was "Are you happy with your experience of our site" if the user chooses yes, they would skip 5 questions but if they select No they are asked why they weren't happy with their experience. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Franky Van Liedekerke (liedekef) Date: 2008-05-22 15:42 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=109671 Originator: NO This is already possible in the latest released version (and the one before that ...) Franky ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1969585&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-05-22 13:32:46
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Feature Requests item #1969585, was opened at 2008-05-22 06:32 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1969585&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: survey format Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Conditional Questions Initial Comment: Would it be possible in a future version to have conditional question logic or skip question logic. Where if the tool were used as a satisfaction survey and the question was "Are you happy with your experience of our site" if the user chooses yes, they would skip 5 questions but if they select No they are asked why they weren't happy with their experience. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1969585&group_id=8956 |
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From: Matthew G. <mat...@gm...> - 2008-05-18 22:12:15
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If any of you use Sourceforge shell services for phpESP(or any project for that matter) and have uploaded SSH keys that were generated on Debian or a derivative(Ubunut, Knoppix, etc...) please make sure you remove this key on SF. Once you have properly updated/patched your Debian based system, regenerated a new set of SSH keys and re-upload. -- Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-04-24 14:13:26
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Feature Requests item #1950791, was opened at 2008-04-24 10:08 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bishopb You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1950791&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: piccirm (piccirm) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Customer pick list Initial Comment: In order to insert a survey collected from another users (customer) it 'd be possibile to associate a survey to a user o customer with a functionality that provide a search a pick of a particular user/customer pi...@wy... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: bishop (bishopb) Date: 2008-04-24 10:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1982963 Originator: NO If I understand the request, I presently handle this by writing custom tables and joining those against respondent (and by association, survey). It's on my as-yet-unpublished wish list for the next major version to easily support pluggable auxiliary data fields for respondents (and possibly surveys), thus allowing a particular survey run to better represent the user population. (Note that this doesn't imply this functionality will make it into the next version; it's only on my wish list at this time.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1950791&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-04-24 14:08:09
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Feature Requests item #1950791, was opened at 2008-04-24 16:08 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1950791&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: piccirm (piccirm) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Customer pick list Initial Comment: In order to insert a survey collected from another users (customer) it 'd be possibile to associate a survey to a user o customer with a functionality that provide a search a pick of a particular user/customer pi...@wy... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1950791&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-04-23 13:23:39
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Feature Requests item #1362485, was opened at 2005-11-20 22:35 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by greggmc You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1362485&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: survey format Group: None >Status: Closed Priority: 6 Private: No Submitted By: James Crook (merlot02) >Assigned to: Franky Van Liedekerke (liedekef) Summary: Date field in different formats Initial Comment: Would it be possible to choose to have date fields and questions displayed/entered in a non-US format, like dd/mm/yyy instead of mm/dd/yyyy ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Matthew Gregg (greggmc) Date: 2008-04-23 08:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=14116 Originator: NO Good enough for me. closing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Franky Van Liedekerke (liedekef) Date: 2008-04-23 02:27 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=109671 Originator: NO Matthew, I think this is already covered with the options I added for date formatting in the ini file, no? Franky ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1362485&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-04-23 07:27:41
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Feature Requests item #1362485, was opened at 2005-11-21 04:35 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by liedekef You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1362485&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: survey format Group: None Status: Open Priority: 6 Private: No Submitted By: James Crook (merlot02) Assigned to: Matthew Gregg (greggmc) Summary: Date field in different formats Initial Comment: Would it be possible to choose to have date fields and questions displayed/entered in a non-US format, like dd/mm/yyy instead of mm/dd/yyyy ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Franky Van Liedekerke (liedekef) Date: 2008-04-23 09:27 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=109671 Originator: NO Matthew, I think this is already covered with the options I added for date formatting in the ini file, no? Franky ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1362485&group_id=8956 |
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From: Matthew G. <mat...@gm...> - 2008-04-23 01:11:47
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Launchpad has finally imported our existing translations. https://translations.launchpad.net/phpesp/trunk/+pots/phpesp If you would like to help translate phpESP please sign up for a Launchpad.net account and let me know you're Launchpad account and language you can translate. -- Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-04-22 22:23:14
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Bugs item #1949207, was opened at 2008-04-22 18:23 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by bishopb You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=1949207&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: User Group: cvs >Status: Closed Resolution: None Priority: 1 Private: No Submitted By: bishop (bishopb) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Authenticated respondent kicked out of dashboard Initial Comment: After successful log in, an authenticated respondent is kicked out of the dashboard when accessing a phpESP instance from within a framed site that opens the phpESP in a frame using IE6. This occurs because phpESP doesn't send a P3P compact security policy and the cookie is third-party, which IE6 refuses in the default configuration ("Medium"): “Internet Explorer prevents Web sites from storing third-party cookies that do not have a compact privacy policy or that use personally identifiable information without your explicit consent. The browser also prevents Web sites from storing first-party cookies that use personally identifiable information without your implicit consent.” The solution is send a proper P3P header that will quiesce IE6, as described here: http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/2002/06/p3p_in_ie6_frustrating_failure.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=1949207&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-04-22 22:22:54
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Bugs item #1949207, was opened at 2008-04-22 18:23 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=1949207&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: User Group: cvs Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 1 Private: No Submitted By: bishop (bishopb) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Authenticated respondent kicked out of dashboard Initial Comment: After successful log in, an authenticated respondent is kicked out of the dashboard when accessing a phpESP instance from within a framed site that opens the phpESP in a frame using IE6. This occurs because phpESP doesn't send a P3P compact security policy and the cookie is third-party, which IE6 refuses in the default configuration ("Medium"): “Internet Explorer prevents Web sites from storing third-party cookies that do not have a compact privacy policy or that use personally identifiable information without your explicit consent. The browser also prevents Web sites from storing first-party cookies that use personally identifiable information without your implicit consent.” The solution is send a proper P3P header that will quiesce IE6, as described here: http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/2002/06/p3p_in_ie6_frustrating_failure.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=1949207&group_id=8956 |
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From: Matthew G. <mat...@gm...> - 2008-04-22 17:50:39
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It also depends on how much traction the particular framework has in the community. If no one uses Zend then support/community will be small. Not that Zend isn't the way to go. Just need to eval them. On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 10:50 -0400, Bishop Bettini wrote: > Yes, ZF is BSD license. > http://framework.zend.com/license > > Gut reaction: I would feel more comfortable using a framework that's > closely aligned with the company who writes the language. Seems like > there would be a lot of synergy there. > Of course, I have no objective evaluation... which is what is really > needed. And of course, I'd feel more comfortable with a documented > list of goals with the rewrite so I could see if the framework moved > us toward those goals. > > bishop > > Quoting Franky Van Liedekerke <lie...@te...>: > > > I heard good things about the zend framework, but is that open source? > > Anyway, I will play around a bit with cakephp and symfony, I like the names > > :-) > > > > > > > > Franky > > > > On 4/22/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote: > >> > >> I have added CodeIgnitor and Zend Framework to the v3OpenQuestions page. > >> > >> How should we go about evaluating these frameworks? Is there an > >> objective method, maybe develop a very small application and > >> compare/contrast how long it takes/number of lines used/speed/etc? > >> > >> Maybe the application could be a hello world: create a table, dump the > >> string into the table (install relevant), write unit test cases (test > >> design), write code to read the table (user facing relevant), write a > >> form to change the string, commit the changes (admin relevant), > >> exercise test cases (regression). > >> > >> Lot of work, especially if we each do all.... > >> > >> bishop > >> > >> Quoting Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...>: > >> > >> > I also agree that Horde wouldn't be a very good fit, but I would like to > >> > evaluate at least CakePHP, Symfony, CodeIgniter and perhaps Zend > >> > Framework. > >> > > >> > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 09:54 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On 4/21/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote: > >> >> Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test > >> >> part...). They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so > >> >> Horde > >> >> might not be a good framework to use. Did you have any > >> >> particular > >> >> frameworks in mind? > >> >> > >> >> bishop > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I've already seen horde, and it might be personal, but I don't like it > >> >> very much ... > >> >> Let's stick, like mentioned, to known technology: adodb (or pear, but > >> >> then we lose the xml db updating again ...), some templating engine > >> >> (smarty maybe?), etc ... > >> >> > >> >> Franky > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > >> >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > >> >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. > >> >> > >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > >> >> _______________________________________________ phpESP-devel > >> >> mailing list php...@li... > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > >> > -- > >> > Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > >> > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > >> > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > >> > > >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > phpESP-devel mailing list > >> > php...@li... > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Bishop Bettini > >> ideacode, Inc. > >> (main) +1 919 341 5170 / (fax) +1 919 521 4100 > >> > >> Visit us on the web at: > >> ideacode.com Professional software research and development > >> reviewmysoftware.com Improve sales! Review your software before you > >> release > >> bytejar.com Solutions to those annoying development problems > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. > >> > >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > >> _______________________________________________ > >> phpESP-devel mailing list > >> php...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > >> > >> > > > > > -- Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> |
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From: Bishop B. <ph...@id...> - 2008-04-22 14:50:55
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Yes, ZF is BSD license. http://framework.zend.com/license Gut reaction: I would feel more comfortable using a framework that's closely aligned with the company who writes the language. Seems like there would be a lot of synergy there. Of course, I have no objective evaluation... which is what is really needed. And of course, I'd feel more comfortable with a documented list of goals with the rewrite so I could see if the framework moved us toward those goals. bishop Quoting Franky Van Liedekerke <lie...@te...>: > I heard good things about the zend framework, but is that open source? > Anyway, I will play around a bit with cakephp and symfony, I like the names > :-) > > > > Franky > > On 4/22/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote: >> >> I have added CodeIgnitor and Zend Framework to the v3OpenQuestions page. >> >> How should we go about evaluating these frameworks? Is there an >> objective method, maybe develop a very small application and >> compare/contrast how long it takes/number of lines used/speed/etc? >> >> Maybe the application could be a hello world: create a table, dump the >> string into the table (install relevant), write unit test cases (test >> design), write code to read the table (user facing relevant), write a >> form to change the string, commit the changes (admin relevant), >> exercise test cases (regression). >> >> Lot of work, especially if we each do all.... >> >> bishop >> >> Quoting Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...>: >> >> > I also agree that Horde wouldn't be a very good fit, but I would like to >> > evaluate at least CakePHP, Symfony, CodeIgniter and perhaps Zend >> > Framework. >> > >> > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 09:54 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/21/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote: >> >> Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test >> >> part...). They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so >> >> Horde >> >> might not be a good framework to use. Did you have any >> >> particular >> >> frameworks in mind? >> >> >> >> bishop >> >> >> >> >> >> I've already seen horde, and it might be personal, but I don't like it >> >> very much ... >> >> Let's stick, like mentioned, to known technology: adodb (or pear, but >> >> then we lose the xml db updating again ...), some templating engine >> >> (smarty maybe?), etc ... >> >> >> >> Franky >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> >> >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> >> _______________________________________________ phpESP-devel >> >> mailing list php...@li... >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel >> > -- >> > Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> > Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> > >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> > _______________________________________________ >> > phpESP-devel mailing list >> > php...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Bishop Bettini >> ideacode, Inc. >> (main) +1 919 341 5170 / (fax) +1 919 521 4100 >> >> Visit us on the web at: >> ideacode.com Professional software research and development >> reviewmysoftware.com Improve sales! Review your software before you >> release >> bytejar.com Solutions to those annoying development problems >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> _______________________________________________ >> phpESP-devel mailing list >> php...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel >> >> > -- Bishop Bettini ideacode, Inc. (main) +1 919 341 5170 / (fax) +1 919 521 4100 Visit us on the web at: ideacode.com Professional software research and development reviewmysoftware.com Improve sales! Review your software before you release bytejar.com Solutions to those annoying development problems |
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From: Franky V. L. <lie...@te...> - 2008-04-22 14:38:47
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I heard good things about the zend framework, but is that open source? Anyway, I will play around a bit with cakephp and symfony, I like the names :-) Franky On 4/22/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote: > > I have added CodeIgnitor and Zend Framework to the v3OpenQuestions page. > > How should we go about evaluating these frameworks? Is there an > objective method, maybe develop a very small application and > compare/contrast how long it takes/number of lines used/speed/etc? > > Maybe the application could be a hello world: create a table, dump the > string into the table (install relevant), write unit test cases (test > design), write code to read the table (user facing relevant), write a > form to change the string, commit the changes (admin relevant), > exercise test cases (regression). > > Lot of work, especially if we each do all.... > > bishop > > Quoting Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...>: > > > I also agree that Horde wouldn't be a very good fit, but I would like to > > evaluate at least CakePHP, Symfony, CodeIgniter and perhaps Zend > > Framework. > > > > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 09:54 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > >> > >> On 4/21/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote: > >> Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test > >> part...). They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so > >> Horde > >> might not be a good framework to use. Did you have any > >> particular > >> frameworks in mind? > >> > >> bishop > >> > >> > >> I've already seen horde, and it might be personal, but I don't like it > >> very much ... > >> Let's stick, like mentioned, to known technology: adodb (or pear, but > >> then we lose the xml db updating again ...), some templating engine > >> (smarty maybe?), etc ... > >> > >> Franky > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. > >> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > >> _______________________________________________ phpESP-devel > >> mailing list php...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > > -- > > Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > > _______________________________________________ > > phpESP-devel mailing list > > php...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > > > > > > -- > Bishop Bettini > ideacode, Inc. > (main) +1 919 341 5170 / (fax) +1 919 521 4100 > > Visit us on the web at: > ideacode.com Professional software research and development > reviewmysoftware.com Improve sales! Review your software before you > release > bytejar.com Solutions to those annoying development problems > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > phpESP-devel mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > > |
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From: Bishop B. <ph...@id...> - 2008-04-22 13:44:37
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I have added CodeIgnitor and Zend Framework to the v3OpenQuestions page. How should we go about evaluating these frameworks? Is there an objective method, maybe develop a very small application and compare/contrast how long it takes/number of lines used/speed/etc? Maybe the application could be a hello world: create a table, dump the string into the table (install relevant), write unit test cases (test design), write code to read the table (user facing relevant), write a form to change the string, commit the changes (admin relevant), exercise test cases (regression). Lot of work, especially if we each do all.... bishop Quoting Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...>: > I also agree that Horde wouldn't be a very good fit, but I would like to > evaluate at least CakePHP, Symfony, CodeIgniter and perhaps Zend > Framework. > > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 09:54 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: >> >> On 4/21/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote: >> Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test >> part...). They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so >> Horde >> might not be a good framework to use. Did you have any >> particular >> frameworks in mind? >> >> bishop >> >> >> I've already seen horde, and it might be personal, but I don't like it >> very much ... >> Let's stick, like mentioned, to known technology: adodb (or pear, but >> then we lose the xml db updating again ...), some templating engine >> (smarty maybe?), etc ... >> >> Franky >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> _______________________________________________ phpESP-devel >> mailing list php...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > -- > Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > phpESP-devel mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > -- Bishop Bettini ideacode, Inc. (main) +1 919 341 5170 / (fax) +1 919 521 4100 Visit us on the web at: ideacode.com Professional software research and development reviewmysoftware.com Improve sales! Review your software before you release bytejar.com Solutions to those annoying development problems |
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From: Matthew G. <mat...@gm...> - 2008-04-22 12:52:59
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I also agree that Horde wouldn't be a very good fit, but I would like to evaluate at least CakePHP, Symfony, CodeIgniter and perhaps Zend Framework. On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 09:54 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > > On 4/21/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote: > Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test > part...). They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so > Horde > might not be a good framework to use. Did you have any > particular > frameworks in mind? > > bishop > > > I've already seen horde, and it might be personal, but I don't like it > very much ... > Let's stick, like mentioned, to known technology: adodb (or pear, but > then we lose the xml db updating again ...), some templating engine > (smarty maybe?), etc ... > > Franky > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ phpESP-devel mailing list php...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel -- Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> |
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From: Franky V. L. <lie...@te...> - 2008-04-22 07:54:15
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On 4/21/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote: > > Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test > part...). They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so Horde > might not be a good framework to use. Did you have any particular > frameworks in mind? > > bishop I've already seen horde, and it might be personal, but I don't like it very much ... Let's stick, like mentioned, to known technology: adodb (or pear, but then we lose the xml db updating again ...), some templating engine (smarty maybe?), etc ... Franky |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-04-21 18:06:45
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Feature Requests item #1948142, was opened at 2008-04-21 20:06 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1948142&group_id=8956 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: raven24 (raven24) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Admin Interface: list of surveys Initial Comment: Wouldn't it be a bit easier and more user-friendly to have a top or left side bar with all the current options on the admin page and the rest of the page contains a list/table of all the current surveys. They could be sortable by anything and colorized according to the current state (activated, testing, finished,...) and for each of them you have the options right next to the name. e.g: If you want to activate one, just klick on the button. Then (possibly with some AJAX-magic) the survey gets activated and you get the link somewhere (next line?) without having to go through several pages and/or steps to do the same thing. Something you could try in this context: Prototype and Script.aculo.us. Together they offer an extremely easy to use AJAX and JS-effects Framework. And my opinion to those who still don't have javascript-enabled browsers: do yourself a favour and get one. It's one thing if a programmer has to develop for two browsers at a time (e.g: CSS - IE/FF) but its getting harder the more things one has to write workarounds for. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=1948142&group_id=8956 |
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From: Bishop B. <ph...@id...> - 2008-04-21 17:37:26
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Never used either, both look reasonable. The documentation for symfony seems to be more robust, but symfony also seems to be a more elaborate construct. Symfony is based upon propel, which I've never particularly cottoned, while CakePHP is based upon PDO, which I like. I think Horde would work too -- it has all the foundation classes afforded by the others, and you don't need to actually run the application inside of a Horde install. Though a Horde-based application running outside of a Horde install definitely has more mass than it needs. But, I know numerous universities use Horde for email, etc, and getting hooked in with them might be an attractive addition to the phpESP community. On the subject of attraction, one particularly attractive aspect of phpESP is its performance. For my business cases, performance is a top concern: 10,000+ simultaneous requests are reasonable and should be actionable without the need for a leviathan box (eg 8-way processor and 32 GB of RAM). IMO, whatever framework is chosen should not sacrifice performance. To that point, I'm perfectly happy (and accustomed) to use: * PEAR classes * Smarty * PHPUnit2 * phing While not a "unified framework," these components provide all the functionality and flexibility needed, without shoehorning us into a framework's view of the world. I'd say we should document the requirements then compare various frameworks and make a buy/build decision based on that analysis. Of course, it all starts with requirements.... now where is that wiki. :) bishop Quoting Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...>: > I don't think Hord is the kind of framework I was thinking of. > In PHP land, CakePHP and Symfony are probably the top contenders. > > On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 11:51 -0400, Bishop Bettini wrote: >> Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test >> part...). They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so Horde >> might not be a good framework to use. Did you have any particular >> frameworks in mind? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > phpESP-devel mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > -- Bishop Bettini ideacode, Inc. (main) +1 919 341 5170 / (fax) +1 919 521 4100 Visit us on the web at: ideacode.com Professional software research and development reviewmysoftware.com Improve sales! Review your software before you release bytejar.com Solutions to those annoying development problems |
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From: Matthew G. <mat...@gm...> - 2008-04-21 16:10:56
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I don't think Hord is the kind of framework I was thinking of. In PHP land, CakePHP and Symfony are probably the top contenders. On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 11:51 -0400, Bishop Bettini wrote: > Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test > part...). They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so Horde > might not be a good framework to use. Did you have any particular > frameworks in mind? |
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From: Bishop B. <ph...@id...> - 2008-04-21 15:51:40
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Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test part...). They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so Horde might not be a good framework to use. Did you have any particular frameworks in mind? bishop Quoting Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...>: > Most frameworks provide some sort of: > Database abstraction > Data validation > UI abstraction(proper templating, etc..) > Authentication(or at least support the idea of a single entry point) > Unit Tests > > On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 11:01 -0400, Bishop Bettini wrote: >> Quoting Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...>: >> >> > Joel may be correct with projects the size of mozilla, but I'm not so >> > sure with something as small as ESP. Especially since I would hope a >> > great deal of what is currently custom in the code-base would be >> > provided out of the box in most modern frameworks. >> >> To an outsider (me), phpESP looks pretty big, though that is probably >> a mirage: I have had no problem digging into it, nor have I >> encountered any feelings of "how deep does this rabbit hole go?" I >> also don't know how many people/organizations use phpESP, so I'm not >> sure what kind of upgrade resistance the community would offer. >> >> When you say "framework," what do you mean? When I hear "a great deal >> of what is currently custom ... would be provided .. in [a] modern >> framework", that makes me think that phpESP wouldn't add much value >> over the framework. >> >> >> > As for as a space for collaboration. I can enable the wiki on the >> > Sourceforge site or drop an instance of Trac on our hosting service. >> > >> > IRC is available here: irc://irc.freenode.net/phpesp/ >> > Or if you would rather have a Jabber/XMPP conference room I can have >> > that available in a few seconds. >> >> I would think we'd want a wiki (or static repository of some kind), to >> keep the documentation around for a longer period than afforded by >> communication groups. >> >> bishop >> >> >> > On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 19:38 -0400, Bishop Bettini wrote: >> >> While I agree the code is horrendous in many places, I caution against >> >> a wholesale rewrite, for the reasons Joel gives here: >> >> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html >> >> >> >> But, if that is the tack taken for v3, we should define the >> >> requirements, write the functional specification, identify re-use and >> >> re-factor candidates, decide on the platform tools, draw the road map, >> >> and declare milestones. In other words, do it right and try not to >> >> make the same mistakes. >> >> >> >> On that note, is there a wiki or some other collaboration space where >> >> this information (requirements, specifications, etc) can be maintained? >> >> >> >> bishop >> >> >> >> Quoting Franky Van Liedekerke <lie...@te...>: >> >> >> >> > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:21:28 -0400 >> >> > Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> So many things need to be redone in the current code base: >> >> >> * Permission system >> >> >> * User management >> >> >> * The admin UI <-biggie >> >> >> * Survey results export >> >> >> * Survey question storage export/interchange >> >> >> * etc... >> >> >> and it's already in a pretty ugly state, that I have had "flip the >> >> >> switch and start over" in my head for a long time. I have worked >> >> >> privately on a few proof of concepts for this, but never pushed to >> >> >> have something usable. Current code could be put into maintenance >> >> >> mode and new dev only on this "branch". >> >> > >> >> > well, I agree here: the current code is ugly and I sometimes thought >> >> > about beginning from scratch again also. So I'm in favour of starting >> >> > over also. >> >> > >> >> > Franky >> >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> >> > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> >> > Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> >> > >> >> >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > phpESP-devel mailing list >> >> > php...@li... >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> > Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> > Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> > >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> > _______________________________________________ >> > phpESP-devel mailing list >> > php...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel >> > >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > phpESP-devel mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > -- Bishop Bettini ideacode, Inc. 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