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From: Bjoern H. <der...@gm...> - 2001-08-09 09:40:29
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* Shlomi Fish wrote: >Do you mean that those standards rely that such things be specified in the >Cascading Style Sheets of the HTML page? Yes. >My problem is that Netscape 4.7 has some CSS bugs, so I hoped I could >write them with CSS and then EnCSS them. Well, guess it would not work. Not really, no. Better upgrade to NN 6.1 :-) -- Björn Höhrmann { mailto:bj...@ho... } http://www.bjoernsworld.de am Badedeich 7 } Telefon: +49(0)4667/981028 { http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de 25899 Dagebüll { PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 } http://www.learn.to/quote/ |
From: Shlomi F. <sh...@te...> - 2001-08-09 09:27:43
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On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: > * Shlomi Fish wrote: > >What could be useful is a tool to take an HTML page that contains CSS > >styles, and prepare an HTML page without CSS. However, the resultant pag= e > >should look the same as the original one. > > That's nearly impossible and not useful, since most presentationla > features of HTML are deprecated and removed from HTML 4 Strict, XHTML > 1.0 Strict, XHTML Basic, XHTML 1.1, etc.pp. > Do you mean that those standards rely that such things be specified in the Cascading Style Sheets of the HTML page? My problem is that Netscape 4.7 has some CSS bugs, so I hoped I could write them with CSS and then EnCSS them. Well, guess it would not work. Regards, =09Shlomi Fish > The other way round, converting presentational features of HTML to CSS > would be useful. > -- > Bj=F6rn H=F6hrmann { mailto:bj...@ho... } http://www.bjoernsworld= =2Ede > am Badedeich 7 } Telefon: +49(0)4667/981028 { http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de > 25899 Dageb=FCll { PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 } http://www.learn.to/quote= / > > _______________________________________________ > per...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perl-css-devel > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish sh...@t2... Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: sh...@te... A more experienced programmer does not make less bugs. He just realizes what went wrong more quickly. |
From: Bjoern H. <der...@gm...> - 2001-08-09 00:26:54
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* Shlomi Fish wrote: >What could be useful is a tool to take an HTML page that contains CSS >styles, and prepare an HTML page without CSS. However, the resultant page >should look the same as the original one. That's nearly impossible and not useful, since most presentationla features of HTML are deprecated and removed from HTML 4 Strict, XHTML 1.0 Strict, XHTML Basic, XHTML 1.1, etc.pp. The other way round, converting presentational features of HTML to CSS would be useful. -- Björn Höhrmann { mailto:bj...@ho... } http://www.bjoernsworld.de am Badedeich 7 } Telefon: +49(0)4667/981028 { http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de 25899 Dagebüll { PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 } http://www.learn.to/quote/ |
From: Bjoern H. <der...@gm...> - 2001-08-09 00:09:08
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* Robin Berjon wrote: >those of you not receiving CPAN daily updates might want to check this out (I >haven't had time, gotta rush to a wedding): > >http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/mod_perl/cpan-search?request=searchsearch?dist=CSS-0.02 Oh my dear, CSS::Parser did better CSS parsing than this module, the documentation uses weired words (like "tags" for selectors or "attributes" for properties), `make test` isn't compatible with Test::Harness, the script doesn't even do testing, the POD for CSS.pm is equivalent with the POD for CSS::Selector, I have no idea what CSS::Adaptor is used for, etc.pp. >I've prepared the latest CSS::SAC (with a fair number of patches to fix the >bugs, but no new features for now) for cvs, and will commit it monday when I >go back to work. I don't have to comment on this, do I? ;-) >Is CSS::DOM already part/fully coded or is it just a plan ? The interface should be complete, but it lacks of CSS::SAC bindings to build a tree, I'm waiting for a current versin of CSS::SAC... :-) PS: the list server should modify the Reply-to: header to send all replies to the list by default -- Björn Höhrmann { mailto:bj...@ho... } http://www.bjoernsworld.de am Badedeich 7 } Telefon: +49(0)4667/981028 { http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de 25899 Dagebüll { PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 } http://www.learn.to/quote/ |
From: Mark O. <ma...@AT...> - 2001-08-08 11:35:12
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* Shlomi Fish (sh...@te...) [010808 13:28]: > > I read about the increased CSS efforts on use.perl.org. About a year > > ago, I started reimplementing a CSS-parser for Perl, but I never got > > finished because a lack of time. > > Is anyone willing to have a look at it? > > Please put it online, and send a URL. > Shlomi Fish See: http://mark.overmeer.net/css2.tgz -- MarkOv %-] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ drs Mark A.C.J. Overmeer ma...@AT... AT Computing, UNIX Training and Consultancy http://www.ATComputing.nl http://Mark.Overmeer.net Ma...@Ov... |
From: Shlomi F. <sh...@te...> - 2001-08-08 11:30:21
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Mark Overmeer wrote: > > Hi, > > I read about the increased CSS efforts on use.perl.org. About a year > ago, I started reimplementing a CSS-parser for Perl, but I never got > finished because a lack of time. > > Handling of the seperate fields is mainly implemented, but the > parsing (including priority rules) is not done yet. There is quite > a lot of documented code with tests. > > Is anyone willing to have a look at it? Please put it online, and send a URL. Regards, Shlomi Fish > -- > Sincerely, > MarkOv %-] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > drs Mark A.C.J. Overmeer ma...@AT... > AT Computing, UNIX Training and Consultancy http://www.ATComputing.nl > http://Mark.Overmeer.net Ma...@Ov... > > _______________________________________________ > per...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perl-css-devel > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish sh...@t2... Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: sh...@te... A more experienced programmer does not make less bugs. He just realizes what went wrong more quickly. |
From: Shlomi F. <sh...@te...> - 2001-08-08 09:43:21
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What could be useful is a tool to take an HTML page that contains CSS styles, and prepare an HTML page without CSS. However, the resultant page should look the same as the original one. Perhaps the best way to do it, is to write a generator that converts a CSS stylesheet to the appropriate XSLT transformation, and then to pass the HTML through it. Regards, Shlomi Fish ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish sh...@t2... Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: sh...@te... A more experienced programmer does not make less bugs. He just realizes what went wrong more quickly. |
From: Shlomi F. <sh...@te...> - 2001-08-08 09:37:03
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I wrote Quad-Pres, which is a perl tool to help generate HTML presentations. The URL for it is this: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/quadpres/ So far the only documentation is the source code and the examples, but I can probably write something up because it still has a rather limited functionality. I used CSS for the lectures (and was criticized for it at least two times), but it beats having to change the HTML in a zillion places at once. Quad-Pres can link all the pages of the presentation (which form a URL tree) into one .css stylesheet. Theoretically it can also include a <style> ... </style> stylesheet inside them, but I prefered the <link ... > scheme. Quad-Pres lectures can be rendered into a web-server, into the hard-disk, or can be dynamically servd by a special CGI script. The latter can at the moment be confused if a slash was added or removed to the end of the URL. I also lost interest in this method a little, because it was too slow on my machine with X, apache and Konq or Mozilla running. Well, maybe with the upgrade to 320 MB of RAM it would be fine. Enjoy, for what it is worth! Regards, Shlomi Fish ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish sh...@t2... Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: sh...@te... A more experienced programmer does not make less bugs. He just realizes what went wrong more quickly. |
From: Mark O. <ma...@AT...> - 2001-08-07 20:33:22
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Hi, I read about the increased CSS efforts on use.perl.org. About a year ago, I started reimplementing a CSS-parser for Perl, but I never got finished because a lack of time. Handling of the seperate fields is mainly implemented, but the parsing (including priority rules) is not done yet. There is quite a lot of documented code with tests. Is anyone willing to have a look at it? -- Sincerely, MarkOv %-] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ drs Mark A.C.J. Overmeer ma...@AT... AT Computing, UNIX Training and Consultancy http://www.ATComputing.nl http://Mark.Overmeer.net Ma...@Ov... |
From: <gp...@ma...> - 2001-08-07 12:22:57
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What's going on? Just joined the list, read the archives. What's this all about? I love CSS and I love Perl, so I thought I'd join ;) |
From: Robin B. <ro...@kn...> - 2001-08-04 14:09:35
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Hi, those of you not receiving CPAN daily updates might want to check this out (I haven't had time, gotta rush to a wedding): http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/mod_perl/cpan-search?request=searchsearch?dist=CSS-0.02 I've prepared the latest CSS::SAC (with a fair number of patches to fix the bugs, but no new features for now) for cvs, and will commit it monday when I go back to work. Is CSS::DOM already part/fully coded or is it just a plan ? -- _______________________________________________________________________ Robin Berjon <ro...@kn...> -- CTO k n o w s c a p e : // venture knowledge agency www.knowscape.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Brain damage is all in your head. |
From: Morbus I. <mo...@di...> - 2001-08-04 02:16:37
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>I just saw that there were now three of us on the list, so I wanted to see if Test received fine here. -- Morbus Iff ( i am your scary godmother ) http://www.disobey.com/ && http://www.gamegrene.com/ please me: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/wishlist/25USVJDH68554 icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus |
From: Robin B. <ro...@kn...> - 2001-08-03 23:24:33
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Hi, I just saw that there were now three of us on the list, so I wanted to see if it works.... -- _______________________________________________________________________ Robin Berjon <ro...@kn...> -- CTO k n o w s c a p e : // venture knowledge agency www.knowscape.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I think... I think it's in my basement... Let me go upstairs and check. -- Escher |