SOLVED 5/20/2022
In Pep10, Design&Print installed and ran and I can print business and Post cards as well as labels.
I have PepOS on 2 other machines. Attempting to install, they both abort saying Out Of Memory! (Both machines worked with this program when Pep10 was their OS.)
I would have thought PepOS was lighter in its memory use.
Is there anything I can do to regain success with this program?
Compaq with Pep10:
It is an .exe file which wine runs and installs the program in it's
folders. It is this phase that it displays
out of memory and guits on PepOS machines.
I have to bring the data home to use on the Pep10 machine.
During the install, it might be writing files to a temporary location , provided by the RAM in the machine.
Without knowing where it is writing the files too or if this is the same version of Print&Design as was installed to them when they ran Pep10
When you get this error, before closing the installer,
the first couple of things I can suggest is to run are lsblk df -h free -tlw
This may give an indication where it is running out of memory during the instalation.
For comparision after thye fact , you might run thise just before starting the installer, recording them somewhere, running the installer and running the 3 commands again; looking at the results.
If it is a newer version of Design&Print ,something might have changed.
maybe try the same version that's currently working on the Pep10 install ?
Thanks
KsWoodsMan
Last edit: KsWoodsMan 2022-05-11
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bruce@darterpro:~$ lsblk, df -h&, free -tlw [1] 32578
bash: lsblk,: command not found
bash: ,: command not found [1]+ Exit 127 lsblk, df -h
bruce@darterpro:~$ lsblk df -h& free -tlw [1] 32583
total used free shared buffers
cache available
Mem: 8017668 1515324 4643380 340960 177052
1681912 5871408
Low: 8017668 3374288 4643380
High: 0 0 0
Swap: 8392700 0 8392700
Total: 16410368 1515324 13036080
Usage:
lsblk [options][<device> ...]</device>
List information about block devices.
Options:
-D, --discard print discard capabilities
-E, --dedup <column> de-duplicate output by <column>
-I, --include <list> show only devices with specified major numbers
-J, --json use JSON output format
-O, --output-all output all columns
-P, --pairs use key="value" output format
-S, --scsi output info about SCSI devices
-T, --tree[=<column>]</column> use tree format output
-a, --all print all devices
-b, --bytes print SIZE in bytes rather than in human readable
format
-d, --nodeps don't print slaves or holders
-e, --exclude <list> exclude devices by major number (default: RAM disks)
-f, --fs output info about filesystems
-i, --ascii use ascii characters only
-l, --list use list format output
-M, --merge group parents of sub-trees (usable for RAIDs,
Multi-path)
-m, --perms output info about permissions
-n, --noheadings don't print headings
-o, --output <list> output columns
-p, --paths print complete device path
-r, --raw use raw output format
-s, --inverse inverse dependencies
-t, --topology output info about topology
-z, --zoned print zone model
-x, --sort <column> sort output by <column>
--sysroot </column></column></list></list></list></column></column>
use specified directory as system root
-h, --help display this help
-V, --version display version
Available output columns:
NAME device name
KNAME internal kernel device name
PATH path to the device node
MAJ:MIN major:minor device number
FSAVAIL filesystem size available
FSSIZE filesystem size
FSTYPE filesystem type
FSUSED filesystem size used
FSUSE% filesystem use percentage
FSVER filesystem version
MOUNTPOINT where the device is mounted
LABEL filesystem LABEL
UUID filesystem UUID
PTUUID partition table identifier (usually UUID)
PTTYPE partition table type
PARTTYPE partition type code or UUID
PARTTYPENAME partition type name
PARTLABEL partition LABEL
PARTUUID partition UUID
PARTFLAGS partition flags
RA read-ahead of the device
RO read-only device
RM removable device
HOTPLUG removable or hotplug device (usb, pcmcia, ...)
MODEL device identifier
SERIAL disk serial number
SIZE size of the device
STATE state of the device
OWNER user name
GROUP group name
MODE device node permissions
ALIGNMENT alignment offset
MIN-IO minimum I/O size
OPT-IO optimal I/O size
PHY-SEC physical sector size
LOG-SEC logical sector size
ROTA rotational device
SCHED I/O scheduler name
RQ-SIZE request queue size
TYPE device type
DISC-ALN discard alignment offset
DISC-GRAN discard granularity
DISC-MAX discard max bytes
DISC-ZERO discard zeroes data
WSAME write same max bytes
WWN unique storage identifier
bruce@darterpro:~$ RAND adds randomness
PKNAME internal parent kernel device name
HCTL Host:Channel:Target:Lun for SCSI
TRAN device transport type
SUBSYSTEMS de-duplicated chain of subsystems
REV device revision
VENDOR device vendor
ZONED zone model
DAX dax-capable device
or more details see lsblk(8).
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From: Bruce Irving birving136@gmail.com
Date: Wed, May 11, 2022 at 5:08 PM
Subject: Fwd: [peppermintos:pepos] OOM Installing Design&Print into wine
To: Middleton Post 39 idlegion39@gmail.com
During the install, it might be writing files to a temporary location ,
provided by the RAM in the machine.
Without knowing where it is writing the files too or if this is the same
version of Print&Design as was installed to them when they ran Pep10
When you get this error, before closing the installer,
the first couple of things I can suggest is to run are
lsblk, df -h&, free -tlw
This may give an indication where it is running out of memory during the
instalation.
For comparision after thye fact , you might run thise just before starting
the installer, recording them somewhere, running the installer and running
the 3 commands again; looking at the results.
If it is a newer version of Design&Print ,something might have changed.
maybe try the same version that's currently working on the Pep10 install ?
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Anonymous
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2022-05-12
Hi Bruce,
The three terminal commands, KsWoodsMan asked you to run was for their printout of your system resource usage are all run individually. See my screenshot.
The other information you included in your reply is not needed nor useful.
Sorry that it took so long! For some reason, Design&Print5.0.0.exe was an invalid exec. I was on the point of waiting till I went to the office tomorrow to get another copy. Finally found one in my backup files.
I believe I misspoke about where the error occurred: I run Design$Print and I leave the box checked to run the installed program.
What KsWoodsMan sent me to use was lsblk, df -h&, free -tlw When I tried to run it, it return an error. So I removed the commas (and put a - in front of df) which is what I sent. I'm not comfortable stringing more than one command at a time. It is only now that I see there was 3 commands.
I've added the results of the commands on 3 machines: Compaq is Pep10 and Darp is PepOS that I gave before and after listings. Both of those are at home. The Acer is PepOS at the office
I'm glad you found it , that the Windows installer being used was corrupted.
With no mention of installing through WINE , looking for Design&Print , in the Debian repositories, the Ubuntu Repos and a few other Linux Repositories turned up nothing, except some windows app.
When you were notified of a response here, I guess the parser for the email sent , by SF, didn't capture that they were "code blocks" to be run as separate commands.
To string several commands together you could replace the comma "," with a semicolon ";" .
But then the visual formatting changes, lumping the output together with no breaks between the output from them.
Again, I'm glad this was solved.
Thanks,
KsWoodsMan
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No! The situation has not improved! When I try to run the installed program, it still quits with an Out of Memory error.
I still have to bring (or send) the data home and run the program in Pep10. Then I forgot the stamps and had to make the drive back to the office!
As I said before, I thought PepOS was lighter than Pep10.
It would be nice if glabel could handle this job.
Bruce
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No, it does not read the projects left by the previous versions. And on
the rare (read single) instance that it did work, it had to save as a pdf
file then print that, which, I doubt would work with 2-sided printing.
Bruce
Some screenshots of your problem would help.
I don't know why Avery Design and Print doesn't like Linux or Wine.
But I did try the installer, on a freshly installed PepOS from 19 Feb .'22 .
This was on a machine that has 1 GB of ram and 1.6 GB of swap space.
I installed Wine and WinTricks with sudo apt install wine winetricks
It listed a few recomendations ,
I ignored them for the moment and downloaded the latest Win32 version of D&P.
Stsarted the installer with wine DesignPrint-5.0.0.exe
And it complained I needed the x86 architecture and gave the commands to use as root. sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine32
The package winbind was in the suggested list. again, I ignored it and reran wine DesignPrint-5.0.0.exe and the installer ran to completetion, without errors.
OK lets open the program from the onscreen prompt , and see what's next.
Oh ! there was the error that the package win bind was needed. OK , I was expecting it.
No problem to add that with sudo apt install winbind
So far , so good.
Here are some screen shots from the process.
Some from you with relative information would help immensely.
After determining that wine-gecko wasn't getting installed, not even by winetricks. This was discovered when the wine version of iexplore.exe 5.0 wouldn't display HTML webpages.
I ran this in a terminal. sudo apt autoremove --purge wine wine32 winetricks playonlinux
(the package playonlinux was installed "offscreen" in an attempt to remedy this. I wanted it gone)
After apt was done purging my system I also deleted ~/.wine
I made sure ~/.cache/wine was there and I put the 2 files needed for x86 and x86_64 gecko were there for the msi installer to find the first time wine was initialized.
The locations for those files can be found here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1236811/how-to-install-html-gecko-support-in-wine , as was a helpful solution that lead me to this point,
After the 2 .msi files were in place I reinstalled wine and what was needed with sudo apt install wine wine32 winetricks zenity
(zenity is the GUI front-end for winetricks)
I started the wintricks GUI with winetricks --gui and looked around a bit.
I used the Windows filemanager to look around a bit. and found the Design$Print-5.0.0.exe installer in the Downloads Directory.
Double clicking it started the installer with a few messages in the terminal where I started winetricks --gui.
When it was done installing , I opted not to start it from the program and didn't bother with the readme again. I closed everything wine related , going back to the terminal and changed directories to where DesignPrintDPO.exe was located and ran wine DesignPrintDPO.exe and it ran with only 1 GB of RAM for the system.
It's not a memory problem.
Thanks for the detailed instructions, KsWoodsMan. Especialy for mentioning
zenity.
Following your instructions, the installation wentsmoothly and DPO now runs
and loads my data.
Now, to see if I can navigate this forum to mark this SOLVED
After determining that wine-gecko wasn't getting installed, not even by
winetricks. This was discovered when the wine version of iexplore.exe 5.0
wouldn't display HTML webpages.
I ran this in a terminal.
sudo apt autoremove --purge wine wine32 winetricks playonlinux
(the package playonlinux was installed "offscreen" in an attempt to remedy
this. I wanted it gone)
After apt was done purging my system I also deleted ~/.wine
I made sure ~/.cache/wine was there and I put the 2 files needed for x86
and x86_64 gecko were there for the msi installer to find the first time
wine was initialized.
The locations for those files can be found here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1236811/how-to-install-html-gecko-support-in-wine
, as was a helpful solution that lead me to this point,
After the 2 .msi files were in place I reinstalled wine and what was
needed with
sudo apt install wine wine32 winetricks zenity
(zenity is the GUI front-end for winetricks)
I started the wintricks GUI with winetricks --gui and looked around a bit.
I used the Windows filemanager to look around a bit. and found the
Design$Print-5.0.0.exe installer in the Downloads Directory.
Double clicking it started the installer with a few messages in the
terminal where I started winetricks --gui.
When it was done installing , I opted not to start it from the program and
didn't bother with the readme again. I closed everything wine related ,
going back to the terminal and changed directories to where
DesignPrintDPO.exe was located and ran
wine DesignPrintDPO.exe and it ran with only 1 GB of RAM for the system.
It's not a memory problem.
Thanks for the detailed instructions, KsWoodsMan. Especialy for mentioning zenity.
Following your instructions, the installation wentsmoothly and DPO now runs and loads my data.
Now, to see if I can navigate this forum to mark this SOLVED
Bruce
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SOLVED 5/20/2022
In Pep10, Design&Print installed and ran and I can print business and Post cards as well as labels.
I have PepOS on 2 other machines. Attempting to install, they both abort saying Out Of Memory! (Both machines worked with this program when Pep10 was their OS.)
I would have thought PepOS was lighter in its memory use.
Is there anything I can do to regain success with this program?
Compaq with Pep10:
Acer with PepOS:
Darp with PepOS:
Last edit: Bruce Irving 2022-05-20
What is the link you are using to DL and install the software ?
Or the process used to install it ?
Thanks
KsWoodsMan
It is an .exe file which wine runs and installs the program in it's
folders. It is this phase that it displays
out of memory and guits on PepOS machines.
I have to bring the data home to use on the Pep10 machine.
Bruce
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 3:15 PM KsWoodsMan kswoodsman@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
During the install, it might be writing files to a temporary location , provided by the RAM in the machine.
Without knowing where it is writing the files too or if this is the same version of Print&Design as was installed to them when they ran Pep10
When you get this error, before closing the installer,
the first couple of things I can suggest is to run are
lsblk
df -h
free -tlw
This may give an indication where it is running out of memory during the instalation.
For comparision after thye fact , you might run thise just before starting the installer, recording them somewhere, running the installer and running the 3 commands again; looking at the results.
If it is a newer version of Design&Print ,something might have changed.
maybe try the same version that's currently working on the Pep10 install ?
Thanks
KsWoodsMan
Last edit: KsWoodsMan 2022-05-11
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From: KsWoodsMan kswoodsman@users.sourceforge.net
Date: Tue, May 10, 2022 at 10:17 PM
Subject: [peppermintos:pepos] OOM Installing Design&Print into wine
To: [peppermintos:pepos] sa@pepos.peppermintos.p.re.sourceforge.net
During the install, it might be writing files to a temporary location ,
provided by the RAM in the machine.
Without knowing where it is writing the files too or if this is the same
version of Print&Design as was installed to them when they ran Pep10
When you get this error, before closing the installer,
the first couple of things I can suggest is to run are
lsblk, df -h&, free -tlw
This may give an indication where it is running out of memory during the
instalation.
For comparision after thye fact , you might run thise just before starting
the installer, recording them somewhere, running the installer and running
the 3 commands again; looking at the results.
If it is a newer version of Design&Print ,something might have changed.
maybe try the same version that's currently working on the Pep10 install ?
Thanks
KsWoodsMan
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Hi Bruce,
The three terminal commands, KsWoodsMan asked you to run was for their printout of your system resource usage are all run individually. See my screenshot.
The other information you included in your reply is not needed nor useful.
Team Peppermint
Last edit: Anonymous 2022-05-12
Sorry that it took so long! For some reason, Design&Print5.0.0.exe was an invalid exec. I was on the point of waiting till I went to the office tomorrow to get another copy. Finally found one in my backup files.
I believe I misspoke about where the error occurred: I run Design$Print and I leave the box checked to run the installed program.
What KsWoodsMan sent me to use was lsblk, df -h&, free -tlw When I tried to run it, it return an error. So I removed the commas (and put a - in front of df) which is what I sent. I'm not comfortable stringing more than one command at a time. It is only now that I see there was 3 commands.
I've added the results of the commands on 3 machines: Compaq is Pep10 and Darp is PepOS that I gave before and after listings. Both of those are at home. The Acer is PepOS at the office
I'm glad you found it , that the Windows installer being used was corrupted.
With no mention of installing through WINE , looking for Design&Print , in the Debian repositories, the Ubuntu Repos and a few other Linux Repositories turned up nothing, except some windows app.
When you were notified of a response here, I guess the parser for the email sent , by SF, didn't capture that they were "code blocks" to be run as separate commands.
To string several commands together you could replace the comma "," with a semicolon ";" .
But then the visual formatting changes, lumping the output together with no breaks between the output from them.
Again, I'm glad this was solved.
Thanks,
KsWoodsMan
No! The situation has not improved! When I try to run the installed program, it still quits with an Out of Memory error.
I still have to bring (or send) the data home and run the program in Pep10. Then I forgot the stamps and had to make the drive back to the office!
As I said before, I thought PepOS was lighter than Pep10.
It would be nice if glabel could handle this job.
Bruce
This is an Avery product right?
They suggest to use their online version:
Here
I am just curious.....does that online tool work for you?
They say you should only use the installed application sparingly...
For Context here is thier download page:
Here
Last edit: Peppermint OS 2022-05-19
No, it does not read the projects left by the previous versions. And on
the rare (read single) instance that it did work, it had to save as a pdf
file then print that, which, I doubt would work with 2-sided printing.
Bruce
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 5:14 AM Peppermint OS pepdebian@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Some screenshots of your problem would help.
I don't know why Avery Design and Print doesn't like Linux or Wine.
But I did try the installer, on a freshly installed PepOS from 19 Feb .'22 .
This was on a machine that has 1 GB of ram and 1.6 GB of swap space.
I installed Wine and WinTricks with
sudo apt install wine winetricks
It listed a few recomendations ,
I ignored them for the moment and downloaded the latest Win32 version of D&P.
Stsarted the installer with
wine DesignPrint-5.0.0.exe
And it complained I needed the x86 architecture and gave the commands to use as root.
sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine32
The package winbind was in the suggested list. again, I ignored it and reran
wine DesignPrint-5.0.0.exe
and the installer ran to completetion, without errors.OK lets open the program from the onscreen prompt , and see what's next.
Oh ! there was the error that the package win bind was needed. OK , I was expecting it.
No problem to add that with
sudo apt install winbind
So far , so good.
Here are some screen shots from the process.
Some from you with relative information would help immensely.
Thanks
Last edit: KsWoodsMan 2022-05-20
After determining that wine-gecko wasn't getting installed, not even by winetricks. This was discovered when the wine version of iexplore.exe 5.0 wouldn't display HTML webpages.
I ran this in a terminal.
sudo apt autoremove --purge wine wine32 winetricks playonlinux
(the package playonlinux was installed "offscreen" in an attempt to remedy this. I wanted it gone)
After apt was done purging my system I also deleted ~/.wine
I made sure ~/.cache/wine was there and I put the 2 files needed for x86 and x86_64 gecko were there for the msi installer to find the first time wine was initialized.
The locations for those files can be found here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1236811/how-to-install-html-gecko-support-in-wine , as was a helpful solution that lead me to this point,
After the 2 .msi files were in place I reinstalled wine and what was needed with
sudo apt install wine wine32 winetricks zenity
(zenity is the GUI front-end for winetricks)
I started the wintricks GUI with
winetricks --gui
and looked around a bit.I used the Windows filemanager to look around a bit. and found the Design$Print-5.0.0.exe installer in the Downloads Directory.
Double clicking it started the installer with a few messages in the terminal where I started winetricks --gui.
When it was done installing , I opted not to start it from the program and didn't bother with the readme again. I closed everything wine related , going back to the terminal and changed directories to where DesignPrintDPO.exe was located and ran
wine DesignPrintDPO.exe
and it ran with only 1 GB of RAM for the system.It's not a memory problem.
Thanks,
KsWoodsMan
Last edit: KsWoodsMan 2022-05-20
Thanks for the detailed instructions, KsWoodsMan. Especialy for mentioning
zenity.
Following your instructions, the installation wentsmoothly and DPO now runs
and loads my data.
Now, to see if I can navigate this forum to mark this SOLVED
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:25 AM Bruce Irving birving136@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the detailed instructions, KsWoodsMan. Especialy for mentioning zenity.
Following your instructions, the installation wentsmoothly and DPO now runs and loads my data.
Now, to see if I can navigate this forum to mark this SOLVED
Bruce
Marking it solved .... Probably not.
Now that it is confirmed, as an admin here, I'll be glad to take care of it,
And You are Welcome.
I hadn't booted into Windows in years.
By not missing that experience, I haven't had a need for Wine.
Thanks again and I'll look forward to seeing you here.
KsWoodsMan
Way to go KsWoodsMan!