[Pcgen-trackers] [ pcgen-Bugs-968202 ] AC Enhancement bonus --- buggy

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Bugs item #968202, was opened at 2004-06-08 02:41
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Category: Equipment/Weaponprof Support
Group: 5.6.0
>Status: Closed
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Tom Russo (tvrusso)
>Assigned to: Martijn Verburg (karianna)
Summary: AC Enhancement bonus --- buggy

Initial Comment:
This bug was found in PCGen 5.6.0 using the 3.5 RSRD. 
It is still present in the 5.6.1 patch.

If I create a custom shield (all my testing has been
with heavy wood shield) with a +1 armor bonus, the
resulting armor class is calculated incorrectly.

Here's how to reproduce:
  In gear panel, choose create custom on Shield
(heavy/wood)
  Choose "type" 
  Choose "ENHANCEMENT" for type
  Choose "Armor Bonus" for enhancement
  Choose "+1"

Equip this shield on a character, and if it's the only
armor that character has the +1 bonus will appear in
the "Misc Bonus" box of the character sheet.  This
looks correct.

If the character is wearing any other armor (a studded
leather, for example), the armor bonus for that armor
is added in to the Misc Bonus box in addition to being
in the Armor box --- so it is counted twice and the
resulting armor class is way too high.

I have not found any dependence of this behavior on
class or race in numerous tests last night; as long as
the enhanced shield is worn the armor class is always
too high because of this double-counting of other armor.


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>Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna)
Date: 2005-08-26 00:52

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Right, testing on 5.9.2 (alpha).

Part I

OK if you add masterwork, then +1 to a heavy wooden shield,
it now gives sets the shield bouns to be 3 (+2 heavy, +1
enhancement) all good.  If you add extra armour, no funny
doubling etc goes on.

Part II

I created a Masterwork --> +1 --> +4 Natural armour.  It
gave me the correct AC (14), and correct Touch AC (10).

Closing this.
K



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Comment By: Reed Thornton (rthornton13)
Date: 2004-07-09 13:56

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hmmm.... This is going to be tricky. If I understand you 
correctly, you want something like the feat Two Weapon 
Defense or the Defending weapon special ability as a base 
property of the weapon. I can get you almost there.

1. From the gear panel, right click on the base item and 
select Create custom item.
2. From the Item Customizer window, add Masterwork.
3. Add an Enhancement bonus (+1 to +5).
4. You should now be able to add your choice of Armor Bonus 
(Enhancement), 6 types of AC Bonus, and Natural Armor. 
These will allow you to add an amount of your choice (1-5 for 
Natural and Deflection, 1-8 for the others).

One problem is that it looks like the right bonus is added, but 
possibly in the wrong place. This winds up causing you to 
have the wrong touch and/or flat footed AC. The only other 
way that I can think of is to create a custon item by hand, 
using lst tags.

Reed
QA Chimp, BoD

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Comment By: prhodes (prhodes)
Date: 2004-07-09 07:46

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I am experiencing this same bug in trying to create a main
gauche (essentially an off-hand parrying dagger).  If I
follow the procedure using a dagger as the base item and
adding an Enhancement/Armor Bonus/+1, I get the doubled AC
modifier. 

I tried using the workaround suggested by rthornton13, but I
don't get the AC Enhancement options, only weapon
enhancements (which I would expect, normally).

If this is not the way I should be creating a weapon with an
AC bonus, let me know.

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Comment By: Tom Russo (tvrusso)
Date: 2004-07-08 04:06

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Sorry it's taken so long for me to answer you, I hadn't had
time to go back and look into the workaround you suggest.

   Yes, the procedure you suggest does generate the correct
armor class.  Thanks, that's a useful workaround and I've
updated my character using it.  I had not used the
masterwork option because my DM hadn't described this shield
as masterwork, just a magically enhanced shield --- I wanted
the description on the char sheet to match his, and it
seemed that just choosing an armor class enhancement should
have done that.

I still think this is a bug, though, because just choosing
an enhancement shouldn't double the armor class of other items.


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Comment By: Reed Thornton (rthornton13)
Date: 2004-06-26 04:07

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I think I've found your problem, you are going about creating 
your shield a little differently than the way the lst writers 
expected (it's something that we both need to change). 
Here's the way to build it and have things come out right.

1. From the gear panel, right click on the base item and 
select Create custom item.
2. From the Item Customizer window, add the Masterwork 
that has a PreReqs column that starts with 
TYPE:Armor|Shield !TYPE...
3. You will now have 3 sets of Enhancement bonus' to choose 
from, select the one that is +X (Enhancement to Shield) 
where X is the number from 1 to 5 by which you want to 
enhance the shield.
4. Add any other *enhancements* that you want to your 
shield.
5. Click either OK to add the item to the equipment list or Buy 
to go ahead and have the current character buy the modified 
shield.

This works for me (ie it plays well with armor). If this doesn't 
help, let me know please.

Reed
QA Chimp, ,Bod

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