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[Pcgen-trackers_Data] [ pcgen-Data Feature Requests-798016 ] [Data Dependent] D20 Modern - Restart character levelling
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2007-10-22 03:22:45
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Data Feature Requests item #798016, was opened at 2003-08-30 20:53 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by amaitland You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=750092&aid=798016&group_id=25576 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: Expand Existing Feature Group: For 5.14 >Status: Closed >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 4 Private: No Submitted By: Duke Watson (hetter) >Assigned to: LegacyKing (amaitland) Summary: [Data Dependent] D20 Modern - Restart character levelling Initial Comment: Quote from http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20modern/bp/20030715a "I want my 1st-level Charismatic hero to multiclass into Smart hero as soon as he gains his next level. When he does, I want him to take the linguist talent, but he doesn't currently meet the prerequisites. (Specifically, he doesn't have 3 ranks of Speak Language or Read/Write Language.) The Character Creation Summary (page 12) and the Level Advancement section (page 39) both say that a character has to pick a talent before spending skill points. Can't I buy the skills upon adding the Smart hero level so that I can qualify for the talent? If not, how could a 1st-level Smart hero ever take the linguist talent, as it says he can under Talents on page 26? First I'll answer the question relating to your specific situation, and then I'll address the broader topic. When you add a new level, you must follow the steps under Level Advancement (page 39) in order. Picking class features (like talents) is Step 4. Spending skill points is Step 9. Because you must pick class features before spending skill points, the skill points you spend can't contribute to the prerequisites for a talent. In other words, you can't buy ranks in three languages to qualify for the linguist talent with the same level increase. And that makes sense -- it would be pretty weird for your character to go from speaking no extra languages to being an expert linguist all at once. But 1st-level characters work somewhat differently. A 1st-level character does not have to acquire skills, class abilities, and other features in any particular order. You can spend skill points first or last -- it doesn't matter. So a character can take the linguist talent at 1st level if he has already spent the skill points to meet the prerequisite. The Character Creation Summary gives the steps in a convenient order, but unlike the Level Advancement section, that order isn't set in stone." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: LegacyKing (amaitland) Date: 2007-10-21 20:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1286039 Originator: NO This tracker is obsolete with the new ability object. CODE work and Ability is in the new build and will be/is present in the new release. 5.13.3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Andrew McDougall (tir-gwaith) Date: 2007-07-20 06:27 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=208239 Originator: NO Waiting on the Multiple Pools in one tab UI feature (All Class Talents will be on the same pane). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna) Date: 2007-07-19 08:58 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=252169 Originator: NO Moving to data freqs in that case, Ability object is done - K ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Frank Kliewe (frank_kliewe) Date: 2006-04-16 08:17 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1241568 When we are going to use Abilities for the Talents, we will no longer be forced to have the Talents seleted from a popup on class selection, but these will show up on their own tab to be selected in any given order. It will be possible to select the necessary skills then to meet the prerequisites for the Talent. At that point this Freq will become obsolete. -- Frank ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna) Date: 2005-09-14 08:08 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=252169 This may no longer be a problem with all of the new work around Modern d20. - K ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna) Date: 2004-01-04 19:15 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=252169 Moving to Feature requests and renaming ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Bryan McRoberts (merton_monk) Date: 2003-09-04 11:11 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=195874 PCGen will try to get you to spend the feat/talent choice immediately upon advancing to first level. The selection window can be closed, preserving the choice, and then skills can be purchased. We'd need to remove the VISIBLE:NO from the talent/feats so the user could then go to the Feats tab and select the talent choice they had skipped over previously. It would be nice if we had a way to give you a bonus feat of a specific type, because as it is, once you close the original talent selection, you get a feat point that could then be spent on any feat/talent. A more formal way to "halt level-related choices" at a specific point would be nice, along with a way to 'resume level-related choices'. Maybe these ideas should be kicked around on the yahoo group to see if anyone has a great idea on how this can be addressed in the most generic way.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna) Date: 2003-08-31 19:47 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=252169 Bryan, we need to change the way a character can be created for this, a house rule under the modern gamemode? Thoughts? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=750092&aid=798016&group_id=25576 |