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New Data Source Development item #1621790, was opened at 2006-12-24 17:49 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nylanfs You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=679269&aid=1621790&group_id=25576 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: Supplement Group: For 5.12 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 8 Private: No Submitted By: Frank Kliewe (frank_kliewe) Assigned to: Paul W. King (kingpaul) Summary: [Green Ronin] Advanced Player\'s Manual Initial Comment: Source: Advanced Player's Manual LST Monkey: Aaron Divinsky & Andrew Maitland Publisher: Green Ronin gameMode: 35e ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Paul Grosse (nylanfs) Date: 2007-04-08 20:28 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=928124 Originator: NO Moved to step 4, waiting on response from GR ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Paul W. King (kingpaul) Date: 2007-03-28 21:56 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=277877 Originator: NO I don't show any recent contact from GR in our recent push to validate permissions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Maredudd (maredudd800) Date: 2007-02-05 19:40 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1569765 Originator: NO This set has cleared OGL. The latest files can be found in pcgen_experimental:Files Section:Step 3) under the name <ogl_corrected_apm_updated_v2.zip>. Included below is the final final OGL Review report. *********************** Final Final OGL Comments SOURCELONG:Advanced Player's Manual SOURCESHORT:APM SOURCEWEB:http://www.greenronin.com OGL Declarations: Chapter 1, Pg 4-7, Abilities (Explicitly referenced) Chapter 2, Pg. 8-16, Races Chapter 3, Pg. 17-42, Character Classes Chapter 4, Pg 43-52, Skills Chapter 6, Pg. 56-62, Description Chapter 8, Pg. 104-179, Spells Appendix 1, Pg. 180-215, Psychic Powers Appendix 2. Pg. 215-221, Sample Units Closed Content/PI: Chapter 7, Pg. 63-103, Mass Combat Permissioned: Chapter 5, Pg. 53-55, Feats File Comment/Instructions apm_classes_base.lst Pass apm_domains.lst Pass N/A - Removed from *.pcc apm_feats_hidden.lst Pass apm_feats.lst Pass apm_skills.lst Pass apm_spells.lst Pass apm_templates.lst Pass File has no templates included as submitted. advancedplayersmanual.pcc Pass OGL Section 15: Pass ***************************************** Maredudd ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Maredudd (maredudd800) Date: 2007-02-03 12:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1569765 Originator: NO FInal OGL Comments SOURCELONG:Advanced Player's Manual SOURCESHORT:APM SOURCEWEB:http://www.greenronin.com OGL Declarations: Chapter 1, Pg 4-7, Abilities (Explicitly referenced) Chapter 2, Pg. 8-16, Races Chapter 3, Pg. 17-42, Character Classes Chapter 4, Pg 43-52, Skills Chapter 6, Pg. 56-62, Description Chapter 8, Pg. 104-179, Spells Appendix 1, Pg. 180-215, Psychic Powers Appendix 2. Pg. 215-221, Sample Units Closed Content/PI: Chapter 7, Pg. 63-103, Mass Combat Permissioned: Chapter 5, Pg. 53-55, Feats File Comment/Instructions apm_classes_base.lst Pass apm_domains.lst Fail N/A - Open work? apm_feats_hidden.lst Pass apm_feats.lst Fail Add NAMEISIP tag to all new feats. (i.e. those not listed in SRD) Remove 'Coordinated Melee Attack' feat. (Malhavoc Press material) Add SOURCEPAGE tag for each 'Psychic' feat. apm_skills.lst Fail Add SOURCEPAGE for Knowledge (Psychic) apm_spells.lst Pass apm_templates.lst Pass File has no templates included as submitted. advancedplayersmanual.pcc *.pcc corrected and provided: ISOGL:YES Tag added. ISLICENSED:YES tag added #EXTRAFILE:green_ronin_permission.pdf tag and file added. Copyright statements corrected. OGL Section 15: Corrected OGL file provided. I will upload a new set to this tracker as well as to the Step 3) folder on pcgen_experimental. Maredudd File Added: ogl_corrected_apm.zip ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Paul Grosse (nylanfs) Date: 2007-02-03 10:58 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=928124 Originator: NO The *.pcc would have both ISOGL and ISLICENSED tags because parts are OGL and parts are licensed PI. The Psychic feats needs a sourcepage tag, but they should point to where the feat is detailed, which looks to be the appendix 1. Each non-psychic feat that is new for this source would need the NAMEISPI tag. But unless you have all the sources listed in the Sec. 15 and can verify which ones are new and which ones aren't just mark the ones that aren't listed in the SRD as PI. Also you can use the attached PDF for the EXTRAFILE tag. File Added: Green Ronin Permission.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Maredudd (maredudd800) Date: 2007-02-03 10:42 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1569765 Originator: NO Oops! Busted! :-) Just for clarities sake, here is a repost of the first part . . . ****************************************************** OGL Comments SOURCELONG:Advanced Player's Manual SOURCESHORT:APM SOURCEWEB:http://www.greenronin.com OGL Declarations: Chapter 1, Pg 4-7, Abilities (Explicitlyref. Chapter 2, Pg. 8-16, Races Chapter 3, Pg. 17-42, Character Classes Chapter 4, Pg 43-52, Skills Chapter 6, Pg. 56-62, Description Chapter 8, Pg. 104-179, Spells Appendix 1, Pg. 180-215, Psychic Powers Appendix 2. Pg. 215-221, Sample Units Closed Content/PI: Chapter 5, Pg. 53-55, Feats (Not ref'd) Chapter 7, Pg. 63-103, Mass Combat **** The rest omitted for this clarification ********* As relates to the feats, once the "Coordinated Melee Attack" is stripped out" (I missed that inclusion though I did see the note in the declarations), does the NAMEISPI tag need to be included on each of the (non-ogl) feat lines? Or is this not 'PI' but rather simply 'permissioned' as you say and how is that destinguished from ogl items? And again for clarity, should we have SOURCEPAGE tags for the 'Psychic' feats? As related to the ogl file and the COPYRIGHT tags in the .pcc, I got it right . . . mostly! I added the ISOGL tag to the pcc because most of the data is ogl. If the ISLISCENCED tag is included will the ISOGL tag be removed? Or is there a ay to simpley 'annotate' the liscenced material . . . as an EXTRAFILE tag or some other mechanism? I did add the Section 15 declarations to the ogl file and the COPYRIGHT tags in the pcc verbatum, so that should be clear. Maredudd/Eric ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Paul Grosse (nylanfs) Date: 2007-02-03 09:04 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=928124 Originator: NO Umm Eric, I think you didn't check your cut and paste, starts listing Modern Magic :) And per their permission granted on March 6, 2002 (which unless told otherwise is still in force) we have permission to use any new feats. The only exception would be the "Coordinated Melee Attack" from chapter 5, which is used via permission from Malhavoc Press, so that would need to be clipped out unless we can get permission from it. The Sec. 15 in the *.pcc and the OGL.txt has to match the original source exactly, because they are using so therefore we are using it. The only thing that would need done is the feat I mentioned clipped out, the permission pdf I am going to upload to the exp folder, and a ISLICENSED tag added to the *.pcc file. I'll try and get everything lined up tonoght and ready for inclusion to the /permissioned folder. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Maredudd (maredudd800) Date: 2007-02-02 20:02 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1569765 Originator: NO OGL Comments SOURCELONG:Modern Magic - Volume 1 SOURCESHORT:ModMag1 SOURCEWEB:http://www.thegamemechanics.com/products/modernmagic1.asp OGL Declarations: Chapter 1, Pg 4-7, Abilities (Explicitly ref.) Chapter 2, Pg. 8-16, Races Chapter 3, Pg. 17-42, Character Classes Chapter 4, Pg 43-52, Skills Chapter 6, Pg. 56-62, Description Chapter 8, Pg. 104-179, Spells Appendix 1, Pg. 180-215, Psychic Powers Appendix 2. Pg. 215-221, Sample Units Closed Content/PI: Chapter 5, Pg. 53-55, Feats (Not explicitly ref'd) Chapter 7, Pg. 63-103, Mass Combat File Comment apm_classes_base.lst Pass apm_feats_hidden.lst Pass apm_feats.lst Fail. Chapter 5, Feats, is not OGC. SOURCEPAGE lists pages in chapter 5 as source. Additionally, Psychic Feats do not include SOURCEPAGE info. I could assume that they are all located in Appendix 1, which is OGC, but I recommend adding SOURCEPAGE to each line for clarity. apm_skills.lst Fail. OK, it is only missing one SOURCEPAGE, for Knowledge (Psychic), will all other Psychic Skills passing. Adding the one SOURCEPAGE will fix this one. apm_spells.lst Pass. apm_templates.lst Pass. Empty. advancedplayersmanual.pcc ISOGL Tag added. Copyright statements corrected. New *.pcc provided. See question below. OGL Section 15: Corrected OGL file provided. Question: Is the included OGL file supposed to be identical with that in the sources OGL? In this instance, the copyright notices in Section 15 for the SRD, Cry Havoc, The Psychic's Handbook, and Unearthed Arcana were not included. Is this because no material from these sources were included? I am uploading a zip file with a modified *.pcc file and OGL.txt file. Let me know if the changes I have made (listed above) are correct. Maredudd File Added: new_files.zip ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Maredudd (maredudd800) Date: 2007-01-24 00:10 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1569765 Originator: NO Is the ToC and the OGC Declarations for this source available? Once I have these two items I can run a quick OGL Review. Maredudd ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Frank Kliewe (frank_kliewe) Date: 2007-01-16 19:35 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1241568 Originator: YES Since it looks like the permission mail from Green Ronin has been rediscovered, this one now needs to be OGL reviewed. -- Frank ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Frank Kliewe (frank_kliewe) Date: 2006-12-24 17:57 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1241568 Originator: YES Brian, this is another source from Green Ronin. I think we still need to hear from them on permission. -- Frank ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=679269&aid=1621790&group_id=25576 |