[Pcgen-trackers_Data] [ pcgen-Data Bugs-1254335 ] [RSRD] Cost of adding new abilities to magic items

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Data Bugs item #1254335, was opened at 2005-08-08 17:30
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Category: Equipment List File Incorrect Information 
>Group: For 5.16.0
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 3
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Submitted By: Paul W. King (kingpaul)
>Assigned to: Andrew McDougall (tir-gwaith)
Summary: [RSRD] Cost of adding new abilities to magic items

Initial Comment:
I think this is a data issue, but it may be code. I'm 
starting here.

I can create a +5 suit of armor (type doesn't matter). If I 
want to add a +5 natural armor bonus to the armor, it 
says the incremental cost is 50k. Per 
MagicItemsI.rtf, 'Adding New Abilities', this is wrong.

"A creator can add new magical abilities to a magic item 
with no restrictions. The cost to do this is the same as if 
the item was not magical. Thus, a +1 longsword can be 
made into a +2 vorpal longsword, with the cost to create 
it being equal to that of a +2 vorpal sword minus the 
cost of a +1 sword.
If the item is one that occupies a specific place on a 
characters body the cost of adding any additional ability 
to that item increases by 50%. For example, if a 
character adds the power to confer invisibility to her ring 
of protection +2, the cost of adding this ability is the 
same as for creating a ring of invisibility multiplied by 
1.5."

So, adding the +5 natural armor bonus to the suit of 
armor should cost 1.5x the cost of an amulet of natural 
armor +5, or 75k.

Paul W. King
TM SB, OGL/PL Chimp, Data Gibbon, BoD

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>Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna)
Date: 2008-05-19 10:34

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Where to next?

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Comment By: Eddy Anthony (eddyanthony)
Date: 2006-12-14 17:29

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Hmm, not sure why this was assigned to me :-/

My 2¢: Even if we had clarity on how this works (and I'm still confused)
I don't think it is possible to code with the current code base. It would
seem that the 50% additional cost is applied only in certain
circumstanceses which PCGen has no way of prerequisiting. Since this is a
rare occurance and the price can be manually adjusted for those that use
this rule I suggest we lower priority on this and shelv it for now.

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Comment By: Frank Kliewe (frank_kliewe)
Date: 2006-08-29 23:53

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Err, have you found an agreement on this yet? -- Frank

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Comment By: Paul W. King (kingpaul)
Date: 2005-08-09 20:11

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Tir,

I'm pretty sure that row is not for this intention. Look at the 
example they give, helm of brilliance. That magic item has a 
large spectrum of abilities. Also, if you read the description 
of 'multiple different abilities' below the table:

"Multiple Different Abilities: Abilities such as an attack roll 
bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function are not 
similar, and their values are simply added together to 
determine the cost. For items that do take up a space on a 
characters body each additional power not only has no 
discount but instead has a 50% increase in price."

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Comment By: Andrew McDougall (tir-gwaith)
Date: 2005-08-08 19:58

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>From Table: Estimating Magic Item Gold Piece Values
Multiple different abilities 	Multiply higher item cost by 2 
Cost for a straight item with Natural Armor +5 is (5^2)*2000
= 50,000
Cost for +5 Armor = 25,000
Higher cost is Natural Armor, so multiply it by 2.
50,000*2+25,000 = 125,000
Original cost for +5 armor is 25,000, so incremental cost
for adding +5 Natural Armor should be 100,000.

Wasn't that fun?

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