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[Pcgen-trackers] [ pcgen-Feature Requests-873085 ] Spells TYPE tag needs to be enhanced
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2007-04-22 10:10:57
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Feature Requests item #873085, was opened at 2004-01-08 13:52 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by karianna You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384722&aid=873085&group_id=25576 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: Spell Support >Group: For 6.0 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Rob Reed (mynex) Assigned to: Frank Kliewe (frank_kliewe) Summary: Spells TYPE tag needs to be enhanced Initial Comment: The TYPE tag of spells needs the ability to allow for user defined types. Currently it only allows for Divine, Arcane, Psionic (or combos of these three). The hardcoding needs to be removed to allow other TYPE's such as "Weave" (wheel of time), "Power" (most point buy systems), or any user defined TYPE. This would also require an update to the PRE/BONUS/ADD/CHOOSE code as well to allow for user defined terms to use the PRE/BONUS code. This would also require a modifiaction to the UI on the spells tabs to sort by the type and/or populate the spell list based on the TYPE of 'spells' the character is allowed (much like it does already with the current Divine, Arcane, and Psionic characters). Sample (can't rem the exact BONUS/PRE tags offhand, but the idea gets across) Snarf's Evil Spell 'O Doom TYPE:Personal.Arcane.Spiffy PRESPELLTYPE:1,Spiffy CHOOSE:SPELL|TYPE.Personal|2 BONUS:SPELLDC|TYPE.Spiffy|3|TYPE=ExtraSpiffy ADD:SPELL(TYPE.Spiffy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna) Date: 2006-08-29 09:46 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=252169 experimental for this one as well.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Eddy Anthony (eddyanthony) Date: 2006-08-16 05:56 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=886893 Tested, I've confirmed that spell types are not hard coded.. you can add a spell type 'Spiffy' and bonus the DC as well as set a PRESPELLTYPE. What is confusing is that the Spells TYPE tag is not what sets the spells type for the spell on the classes spell list, it the CLASSes SPELLTYPE tag which does that. So when I change the Sorcerer to SPELLTYPE:Spiffy then he has Spiffy spells and can pass PRESPELLTYPE:Spiffy,1,1 once he adds a 1st level spell. I'm not sure what the Spell TYPE tag is actually used for, perhaps it is for the spell chooser in the customizer when making spell based magic items. I think I see what Rob is wanting, he wants PRESPELLTYPE and these other tags to work of the Spells TYPE tag where currently it's type is set by class. I can see now why he thought it was hard coded and having these tags work from the Spells TYPE would be much clearer but off hand I don't know the impact changing these tags will have. Problem: if a spell has TYPE:Acane.Divine (as many of them do and PRESPELLTYPE is changed to look at the Spells TYPE tag then that means a Wizard will be able to pass a PRESPELLTYPE:Divine,1,1 check. Sorry I don't have a good answer here, I can see where he's going with this request but I see a lot of problems I don't know how to address. This needs a lot of thought before any implementation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna) Date: 2006-08-14 14:35 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=252169 Eddy, where did you get to with that? - K ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Eddy Anthony (eddyanthony) Date: 2005-09-15 16:17 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=886893 Somewhat related to the Spell Chooser enhancement, it looks like it is basically done. Need to verify that PRESPELLTYPE works with custom spell types, I'll look into that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna) Date: 2005-09-15 16:05 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=252169 Eddy, related to the Spell Chooser enhancement? Is this still needed? - K ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Eric Beaudoin (ericbeaudoin) Date: 2004-02-08 23:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=324612 I'm happy to learn that there is no hardcoding but this is a suprise. I certainly remember the time when the TYPE were introduced in the SPELL and at that point, we needed to put TYPE there otherwise the SPELL would not show up properly. I just don't remember where they didn't show up properly. The SPELL TYPEs as they are used right now in PCGEN are completely wrong. There is no such thing as an Arcane or Divine in D&D. What we have are spells that are on the list of Arcane or Divine or Psi spellcasters. This means that the spell "type" cannot be predetermine in the .lst files, it must be found at run time by searching the classes spell lists for the current PC. The TYPE in spell should be used like Rob describes them. We need to modify the PRESPELLTYPE tag. I'll try to test the ADD and CHOOSE to see if that works. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martijn Verburg (karianna) Date: 2004-02-08 22:29 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=252169 Eric, can you try out the CHOOSE and ADD that Bryan mentions below? K TM SB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Bryan McRoberts (merton_monk) Date: 2004-01-11 04:47 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=195874 There is no hardcoding of spelltypes, except as far as a Domain's special relationship to Divine spellcasters, and even Arcane spellcasters can have Domains. I added a spell with a TYPE:Spiffy and added a class that had a spelltype of Spiffy and it worked just fine. BONUS:DC|TYPE.Spiffy|2 works as well, as does PRESPELLTYPE:Spiffy,1,1 I haven't checked to see if CHOOSE:SPELL|TYPE.Spiffy| is valid or ADD:SPELL(TYPE.Spiffy). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384722&aid=873085&group_id=25576 |