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Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt

[Boris Z. <bo...@id...>]

Hi RK,

Am Mittwoch, 15. September 2004 06:42 schrieb R K:
> Boris Zentner wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >As Shimon pointed out already, Apache-PageKit-1.14 is the right version to
> >use.
>
> But I was wondering if the latest Template Toolkit support is added to
> this release? I am very much interested in using the TT part of A::P.
>

No, currently Apache-PageKit-1.14 has no support for TT. But I plan to 
backport the TT extension once most people agree with the patch. I do not use 
TT.

--
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt

[R K <lin...@ho...>]

Boris Zentner wrote:

>Hi,
>
>As Shimon pointed out already, Apache-PageKit-1.14 is the right version to 
>use.
>  
>
But I was wondering if the latest Template Toolkit support is added to 
this release? I am very much interested in using the TT part of A::P.

Thanks
-RK

Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt

[Boris Z. <bo...@id...>]

Hi,

As Shimon pointed out already, Apache-PageKit-1.14 is the right version to 
use.

Am Dienstag, 14. September 2004 14:42 schrieb R K:
> R K wrote:

> available. Is there some problem here? Since setup_eg.pl didnt work
> correctly.
> Here is the output:
>
> Can't locate Apache/test.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> /tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/5.8.2/i686-linux
> /tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/5.8.2
> /tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/i686-linux
> /tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2
> /tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at setup_eg.pl line 11.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at setup_eg.pl line 11.
>

Whops, the setup_eg.pl is just a old file. It is without function for recent 
Apache::PageKit. Just ignore or delete it.

The setup task is done by make test currently.

cd Apache-PageKit-1.14
perl Makefile.PL
make
make test
make install

then do a 

./t/TEST -start-httpd

and browse http://localhost:8529/

to stop the server do ./t/TEST -stop-httpd

Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt

[Shimon R. <sh...@ru...>]

RK,

PageKit for Apache 1.3 is available and the current version is 1.14 (the 1.x
versions aren't old, they're just for Apache/mod_perl 1.x).  You can find it
on CPAN or Pagekit.org.

Enjoy!

shimon.

On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 05:50:45PM +0530, R K wrote:
> Boris Zentner wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I just upload Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt to 
> >http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt.tar.gz.
> >It works with the new mod_perl 1.9916 and libapreq2-2.04_03-dev.
> 
> I was curious if there is any release for httpd ver 1.3.x and the 
> supporting mod_perl.
> 
> Thanks
> -RK
> 
> 
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Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt

[R K <lin...@ho...>]

R K wrote:

> Boris Zentner wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just upload Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt to 
>> http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt.tar.gz.
>> It works with the new mod_perl 1.9916 and libapreq2-2.04_03-dev.
>
>
> I was curious if there is any release for httpd ver 1.3.x and the 
> supporting mod_perl.

I will explain in further details, since the mail did not really state 
my problem. I would like to use Apache 1.3.x series server with mod_perl 
verision 1.29, now I was wondering if the release will work with my 
desired combination?

I would like to point out one problem that I was facing, I could not 
find out Apache::test library, but yes Apache::Test library was 
available. Is there some problem here? Since setup_eg.pl didnt work 
correctly.
Here is the output:

Can't locate Apache/test.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
/tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/5.8.2/i686-linux 
/tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/5.8.2 
/tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/i686-linux 
/tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2 
/tmp/.my_linux_box/local/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at setup_eg.pl line 11.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at setup_eg.pl line 11.


-RK

Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt

[R K <lin...@ho...>]

Boris Zentner wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just upload Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt to 
> http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt.tar.gz.
> It works with the new mod_perl 1.9916 and libapreq2-2.04_03-dev.

I was curious if there is any release for httpd ver 1.3.x and the 
supporting mod_perl.

Thanks
-RK

Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi Vlad,

Am 13.09.2004 um 16:54 schrieb Vlad:

> Boris,
>
> I've installed last version of PgKit-TT you have posted here on my
> local server and came to a disappointing performance issues. I don't
> know is it tied to PageKit in general and not to TT extension (cause I
> didn't play with pgkit + native html templates), but here is the
> numbers:
>
> 1) page kit "homepage" showed me 35 requests per second
>
> 2) simple pure mod_perl handler that loads and expands TT template
> (with 2 included files and one simple cycle) - 330 rps
>

Thats slow, but the pagekit homepage use already a database and a lot 
of logic. It is not only expanding some stuff. First try to compare a 
real page or at least the same ;-).

In the Config/Config.xml change

reload = 'yes' to reload='no'. That speedup the application a bit. But 
now you can not change Config entries for the pages without restarting 
the server. Also the Cache is not checked for updated files ( this is 
not needed if your application is ready, but for develop you bertter 
leave it to 'yes'.

Now remove as much as possible from Common::pkit_common_code. Or remove 
the whole sub.

> I was considering PageKit as framework for my application, but those
> numbers, frankly, keeping me off...  I understand that it's not valid
> to compare page expanded via pagekit with page expanded purely by TT,
> because there is a lot going on "behind the scene" in pagekit, but it
> still way too much - 10 times...

On my Powerbook G4 1.5 a TT pagekit page *outpreforms* a native TT 
handler that delivers the same page! I do not have access to another 
test computer currently.

  .=--------+------=.
| toolkit |  con  |
|=--------+------=|
| pkit    |    84 |
| tt      |    28 |
| ht      |    95 |
'=--------+------='

Here the results from a native TT handler:

Concurrency Level:      10
Time taken for tests:   55.120 seconds
Complete requests:      1500
Failed requests:        0
Broken pipe errors:     0
Total transferred:      5220000 bytes
HTML transferred:       4905000 bytes
Requests per second:    27.21 [#/sec] (mean)
Time per request:       367.47 [ms] (mean)
Time per request:       36.75 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent 
requests)
Transfer rate:          94.70 [Kbytes/sec] received

and here the same  _with_ PageKit:

Concurrency Level:      10
Time taken for tests:   17.885 seconds
Complete requests:      1500
Failed requests:        0
Broken pipe errors:     0
Total transferred:      5202928 bytes
HTML transferred:       4839444 bytes
Requests per second:    83.87 [#/sec] (mean)
Time per request:       119.23 [ms] (mean)
Time per request:       11.92 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent 
requests)
Transfer rate:          290.91 [Kbytes/sec] received

~ the same handler with HTML::Template

Concurrency Level:      10
Time taken for tests:   15.753 seconds
Complete requests:      1500
Failed requests:        0
Broken pipe errors:     0
Total transferred:      5200500 bytes
HTML transferred:       4885500 bytes
Requests per second:    95.22 [#/sec] (mean)
Time per request:       105.02 [ms] (mean)
Time per request:       10.50 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent 
requests)
Transfer rate:          330.13 [Kbytes/sec] received

this is the HTML::Template handler.

sub ht : method {
   my $class = shift;
   my $r     = shift;

   my $text = <<ENDE;
	<html>
	<body>
<tmpl_include NAME="/tmp/template.tmpl">
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
	<tmpl_var HOME> <tmpl_var path>
<tmpl_include NAME="/tmp/template.tmpl">
	</body>
	</html>	
ENDE

   my $pkit_root = '/Users/borisz/src/c/aq/Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt/eg';
   my $dbh = DBI->connect_cached( "dbi:SQLite:dbname=$pkit_root/dbfile", 
"", "" )
     || die "$DBI::errstr";
   my $template = HTML::Template->new( scalarref => \$text );
   $template->param( HOME => $ENV{HOME} );
   $template->param( PATH => $ENV{PATH} );
   print "Content-Type: text/html\n\n", $template->output;
   return Apache::OK;
}


I have tested with apaches ab 1.3 inside the same server as pagekit 
live with this handler. The file template.tt2 holds

########## template.tt2 #########
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
#############################


<Perl>
sub tt : method {
   my $class = shift;
   my $r     = shift;

   my $text = <<ENDE;
	<html>
	<body>
	Template<br>
		[% INCLUDE template.tt2 %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
	[% HOME %] [% PATH %]
		[% INCLUDE template.tt2 %]
	</body>
	</html>	
ENDE

   # open the html template
   my $template = Template->new( INCLUDE_PATH => '/tmp' );

   my $o = '';
   $template->process( \$text, { HOME => $ENV{HOME}, PATH => $ENV{PATH} 
}, \$o )
     || die $template->error();

   # send the obligatory Content-Type and print the template output
   print "Content-Type: text/html\n\n", $o;
   return Apache::OK;
}
</Perl>
<Location /test/tt>
SetHandler perl-script
PerlHandler MyTest::Handler->tt
</Location>


> also, something that I dind't quite understand is presence of PgKit
> tags which looks quite not like default TT tags in the code of your
> templates (taken from pgkit TT edition)... it looked to me like  you
> are doing some "double" scans over each template, expanding internal
> page-kit related stuff and then giving the result to TT... if I
> guessed that correctly, perhaps this is the source of such "slowness"?

No, at least not at all, most often the database access is the slowest 
part. General the best you can do is put as much as possible into 
components and content. That is as fast as directly typed into the 
page. Use a fast database. DBD::SQLite in a recent version is a lot 
faster on concurent access so use the lastest. But keep in mind that 
recently DBD::SQLite switch from version 2 to 3 and both are 
incompatible. So update only if your data is on a backup. For larger 
datasets and more SQL futures I recommend postgres.

> Perhaps, this pre-parsing of a template it worth giving down to TT?
>

The templates are in a real precached format, faster as generated from 
tt so until there is no error in the code, that part is faster than tt 
itself.

Watch them in the pkit_cache directory with strings 
View/pkit_cache/somefile.

>
> thank you!
>
> p.s. btw, what are the changes in this last
> Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt.tar.gz compared to what you gave us to
> download several of week ago?
>

the file eg/dbfile is not in the Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt.tar.gz 
tarfile, since this is in the old DBD::SQLite format and you get some 
errors if you use a version 3 format. The fix is to delete the file. 
And more important mod_perl and libapreq2 have changed again. This 
version work _only_ with the newer mod_perl.

--
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt

[Vlad <mar...@gm...>]

Boris,

I've installed last version of PgKit-TT you have posted here on my
local server and came to a disappointing performance issues. I don't
know is it tied to PageKit in general and not to TT extension (cause I
didn't play with pgkit + native html templates), but here is the
numbers:

1) page kit "homepage" showed me 35 requests per second

2) simple pure mod_perl handler that loads and expands TT template
(with 2 included files and one simple cycle) - 330 rps

I was considering PageKit as framework for my application, but those
numbers, frankly, keeping me off...  I understand that it's not valid
to compare page expanded via pagekit with page expanded purely by TT,
because there is a lot going on "behind the scene" in pagekit, but it
still way too much - 10 times...

also, something that I dind't quite understand is presence of PgKit
tags which looks quite not like default TT tags in the code of your
templates (taken from pgkit TT edition)... it looked to me like  you
are doing some "double" scans over each template, expanding internal
page-kit related stuff and then giving the result to TT... if I
guessed that correctly, perhaps this is the source of such "slowness"?
Perhaps, this pre-parsing of a template it worth giving down to TT?


thank you!

p.s. btw, what are the changes in this last
Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt.tar.gz compared to what you gave us to
download several of week ago?



On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:40:31 +0200, Boris Zentner <bz...@2b...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just upload Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt to
> http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt.tar.gz.
> It works with the new mod_perl 1.9916 and libapreq2-2.04_03-dev.
> 
> Also I add a downloadpage with very inclomplete discription of all
> recent versions at
> 
> http://eg.2bz.de/download
> 
> I wish a little more feedback on the Template-Toolkit extension - or
> does nobody use it currently?
> 
> --
> Boris
> 
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[Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

I just upload Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt to 
http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_09-tt.tar.gz.
It works with the new mod_perl 1.9916 and libapreq2-2.04_03-dev.

Also I add a downloadpage with very inclomplete discription of all 
recent versions at

http://eg.2bz.de/download

I wish a little more feedback on the Template-Toolkit extension - or 
does nobody use it currently?

--
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_07-tt

[Vlad <mar...@gm...>]

> here it is, A:P with Template support.
> 

Thanks a lot!  I'm gonna try it out  ASAP. 

-- 
Vlad

[Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_07-tt

[Boris Z. <bo...@2b...>]

Hi,

here it is, A:P with Template support.

To enable the Template engine, add only

template_class = "Template"

to the global part of your Config.xml.

I tested only very lightly and there may some errors in. If you find some 
bugs, please share them.

One difference with Template vs HTML::Template is that H:T is caseinsensitive, 
while Template is casesensitive. So 

$model->output( test => 'test' );

<model_var TEST>

results as 'test' for H:T but is nothing for Template.

On my first and only speed test Template was 30% faster for the short 
customize page, Im very interested what results you have.

http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_07-tt.tar.gz

Currect changes:

        - Add support for Template Toolkit ( Boris Zentner )
        - Fix: with pkit_admin=on and perl 5.8.x the input data is
                converted to your default_input_charset.
                ( Boris Zentner, Sean Lee )
        - Fix: eg/dbfile needs rw permission even for nobody or nouser
                if apache is started as root.
                ( Boris Zentner, Shawn Poulson )



-- 
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] uploaded file doesn't show up in Model

[Boris Z. <bo...@2b...>]

Hi,

Am Sonntag 08 August 2004 10:08 schrieb Alex Deva:
> Hey,
>
> I'm getting a weird problem. To reproduce it, I've set up a small template:
>
> <PKIT_COMPONENT NAME="/top">
>
>     <PKIT_MESSAGE>
>     <p>
>
>    <form method="post" action="upload_done"
> enctype="application/x-www-form-urlencoded"> <input type="file"
> name="photo">
>               <input type="hidden" name="pkit_done"
> value="http://<PKIT_HOSTNAME>"> <input type="image" img
> src="static/submit.png" width="67" height="20" border="0" name="submit"
> value="Submit"> </form>
>
>
> <PKIT_COMPONENT NAME="/bottom">
>

The main reason that this do not work is the enctype, try it with  
enctype="multipart/form-data".

>
> In MyModel.pm, I have the following subroutine (just to check the number of
> uploaded files):
>
> sub upload_done {
>   my $model = shift;
>   my @filenames;
>
>   foreach my $upload ( $model->apr->upload ) {
>     my $fh = $upload->name;
>     push @filenames, $fh;
>     }
>
>   my $pkit_done = $model->input('pkit_done');
>   $model->pkit_gettext_message("file: ".$#filenames);
>   $model->pkit_redirect("upload");
> }
>

your code looks fine for mod_perl 1, but with mod_perl 2 you  should write

sub upload_done {
  my $model = shift;
  my $apr = $model->apr;
  my @filenames = ();  
  foreach my $n ( $apr->upload ) {
    my $name = $apr->upload($n)->name;
    push @filenames, $name;
  }
  my $pkit_done = $model->input('pkit_done');
  $model->pkit_gettext_message("file: ".@filenames);
  $model->pkit_redirect("upload");  
}

 

> The problem is the result is always -1 (and if I try to access any $upload
> object, it's undefined).
>
> Thank you for any help!

-- 
Boris

[Pagekit-users] uploaded file doesn't show up in Model

[Alex D. <al...@dr...>]

Hey,

I'm getting a weird problem. To reproduce it, I've set up a small =
template:

<PKIT_COMPONENT NAME=3D"/top">

    <PKIT_MESSAGE>
    <p>

   <form method=3D"post" action=3D"upload_done" =
enctype=3D"application/x-www-form-urlencoded">=20
              <input type=3D"file" name=3D"photo">=20
              <input type=3D"hidden" name=3D"pkit_done" =
value=3D"http://<PKIT_HOSTNAME>">
              <input type=3D"image" img src=3D"static/submit.png" =
width=3D"67" height=3D"20" border=3D"0" name=3D"submit" =
value=3D"Submit">
    </form>
         =20

<PKIT_COMPONENT NAME=3D"/bottom">


In MyModel.pm, I have the following subroutine (just to check the number =
of uploaded files):

sub upload_done {
  my $model =3D shift;
  my @filenames;
 =20
  foreach my $upload ( $model->apr->upload ) {
    my $fh =3D $upload->name;
    push @filenames, $fh;
    }
 =20
  my $pkit_done =3D $model->input('pkit_done');
  $model->pkit_gettext_message("file: ".$#filenames);
  $model->pkit_redirect("upload"); =20
}

The problem is the result is always -1 (and if I try to access any =
$upload object, it's undefined).

Thank you for any help!

[Pagekit-users] uploaded file doesn't show up in Model

[Alex D. <al...@dr...>]

Hey,

I'm getting a weird problem. To reproduce it, I've set up a small =
template:

<PKIT_COMPONENT NAME=3D"/top">

    <PKIT_MESSAGE>
    <p>

   <form method=3D"post" action=3D"upload_done" =
enctype=3D"application/x-www-form-urlencoded">=20
              <input type=3D"file" name=3D"photo">=20
              <input type=3D"hidden" name=3D"pkit_done" =
value=3D"http://<PKIT_HOSTNAME>">
              <input type=3D"image" img src=3D"static/submit.png" =
width=3D"67" height=3D"20" border=3D"0" name=3D"submit" =
value=3D"Submit">
    </form>
         =20

<PKIT_COMPONENT NAME=3D"/bottom">


In MyModel.pm, I have the following subroutine (just to check the number =
of uploaded files):

sub upload_done {
  my $model =3D shift;
  my @filenames;
 =20
  foreach my $upload ( $model->apr->upload ) {
    my $fh =3D $upload->name;
    push @filenames, $fh;
    }
 =20
  my $pkit_done =3D $model->input('pkit_done');
  $model->pkit_gettext_message("file: ".$#filenames);
  $model->pkit_redirect("upload"); =20
}

The problem is the result is always -1 (and if I try to access any =
$upload object, it's undefined).

Thank you for any help!

Re: [Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

Am Donnerstag 05 August 2004 07:03 schrieb Veeresh Khanorkar:
> Boris Zentner wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
[...]
> >
> >It is a confguration option anyway, at runtime. So you can switch to tt by
> >typing one or two options in the Config.xml file. I remember that I tried
> >first to make it an option on a page basis, but this did not work. I do
> > not remember the reason.
>
> This tastes yummy! Please send across patch/configuration patch that we
> can try out.
>

I have merged my old patch with a current version of pagekit, but some errors 
remain. I'm pretty busy until wednesday so expect a working version on 
thursday/friday.

waiting 60 seconds for server to start: .....
waiting 60 seconds for server to start: ok (waited 3 secs)
server localhost:8529 started
t/01_dummy...........ok
t/02_language........ok
t/03_charset.........ok
t/04_anon_cookies....ok
t/05_account.........ok 2/6# Failed test 3 in t/05_account.t at line 46
t/05_account.........FAILED test 3
        Failed 1/6 tests, 83.33% okay
t/06_login...........NOK 2# Failed test 2 in t/06_login.t at line 22
t/06_login...........NOK 4# Failed test 4 in t/06_login.t at line 32
t/06_login...........NOK 6# Failed test 6 in t/06_login.t at line 42
t/06_login...........FAILED tests 2, 4, 6
        Failed 3/9 tests, 66.67% okay
t/07_restricted......NOK 2# Failed test 2 in t/07_restricted.t at line 15
t/07_restricted......NOK 4# Failed test 4 in t/07_restricted.t at line 26
t/07_restricted......FAILED tests 2, 4
        Failed 2/6 tests, 66.67% okay
Failed Test       Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/05_account.t                   6    1  16.67%  3
t/06_login.t                     9    3  33.33%  2 4 6
t/07_restricted.t                6    2  33.33%  2 4
Failed 3/7 test scripts, 57.14% okay. 6/55 subtests failed, 89.09% okay.
[warning] server localhost:8529 shutdown

> Thanks
> -Veeresh

-- 
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Veeresh K. <vee...@my...>]

Boris Zentner wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Am Dienstag 03 August 2004 03:22 schrieb Vlad:
>  
>
>>>I like the syntax of Template::Toolkit better than HTML::Template, and I
>>>would also be very likely to convert my code if Template:::Toolkit were
>>>significantly faster.
>>>      
>>>
>>those are exactly the reasons I'd prefer TT better than HTML::Template
>>- syntax is muuuch better + it's faster (AFAIK mainly due to the
>>portion of the code written in C as XS module)
>>
>>I'm concerned though - okay, Boris will come up  with the patch for
>>current version of PageKit, but will that mean that TT  will be
>>supported from now on in future releases of  PageKit, or everytime
>>we'll have to adjust that patch to make it working ...
>>
>>    
>>
>
>If it works relaible and some users use it, the tt patch is surely included. I 
>suggest to maintenance it as a seperate distribution for some weeks and then 
>include or throw it away based on user feedback.
>
>( me wandering off to install tt )
>
>  
>
>>would be nice if it's sort of configuration option that you pass while
>>configuring (before installing) PageKit.
>>    
>>
>
>It is a confguration option anyway, at runtime. So you can switch to tt by 
>typing one or two options in the Config.xml file. I remember that I tried 
>first to make it an option on a page basis, but this did not work. I do not 
>remember the reason.
>  
>
This tastes yummy! Please send across patch/configuration patch that we 
can try out.

Thanks
-Veeresh

Re: [Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

Am Dienstag 03 August 2004 03:22 schrieb Vlad:
> > I like the syntax of Template::Toolkit better than HTML::Template, and I
> > would also be very likely to convert my code if Template:::Toolkit were
> > significantly faster.
>
> those are exactly the reasons I'd prefer TT better than HTML::Template
> - syntax is muuuch better + it's faster (AFAIK mainly due to the
> portion of the code written in C as XS module)
>
> I'm concerned though - okay, Boris will come up  with the patch for
> current version of PageKit, but will that mean that TT  will be
> supported from now on in future releases of  PageKit, or everytime
> we'll have to adjust that patch to make it working ...
>

If it works relaible and some users use it, the tt patch is surely included. I 
suggest to maintenance it as a seperate distribution for some weeks and then 
include or throw it away based on user feedback.

( me wandering off to install tt )

> would be nice if it's sort of configuration option that you pass while
> configuring (before installing) PageKit.

It is a confguration option anyway, at runtime. So you can switch to tt by 
typing one or two options in the Config.xml file. I remember that I tried 
first to make it an option on a page basis, but this did not work. I do not 
remember the reason.

-- 
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Vlad <mar...@gm...>]

> I like the syntax of Template::Toolkit better than HTML::Template, and I
> would also be very likely to convert my code if Template:::Toolkit were
> significantly faster.

those are exactly the reasons I'd prefer TT better than HTML::Template
- syntax is muuuch better + it's faster (AFAIK mainly due to the
portion of the code written in C as XS module)

I'm concerned though - okay, Boris will come up  with the patch for
current version of PageKit, but will that mean that TT  will be
supported from now on in future releases of  PageKit, or everytime
we'll have to adjust that patch to make it working ...

would be nice if it's sort of configuration option that you pass while
configuring (before installing) PageKit.

-- 
Vlad

Re: [Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi Bill,

Am Montag 02 August 2004 23:07 schrieb Bill Karwin:
> Boris Zentner wrote:
> >I have a patch with TT support somewhere, it is about a year old. I can
> > not remember what it does and what not, but basicly it works. I clean it,
> > merge it with a recent PageKit and put it in a public place.
>
> This would be a great option for PageKit.
>
> I like the syntax of Template::Toolkit better than HTML::Template, and I
> would also be very likely to convert my code if Template:::Toolkit were
> significantly faster.

That was the reason for me long ago to start with the patch. But after it 
works for one special page with lots of model_var data.

Just from my memory TT was significant faster for pages with more as 2500 
inserts. For smaler pages HT was faster or equal. My numbers here are not 
exact and old, but do not expect to much from tt.

-- 
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Bill K. <bi...@ka...>]

Boris Zentner wrote:

>I have a patch with TT support somewhere, it is about a year old. I can not 
>remember what it does and what not, but basicly it works. I clean it, merge 
>it with a recent PageKit and put it in a public place.
>  
>
This would be a great option for PageKit.

I like the syntax of Template::Toolkit better than HTML::Template, and I 
would also be very likely to convert my code if Template:::Toolkit were 
significantly faster.

Regards,
Bill

Re: [Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Vlad <mar...@gm...>]

thnx a lot! 

V.

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:56:28 +0200, Boris Zentner <bz...@2b...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Vlad,
> 
> Am Sonntag 01 August 2004 23:34 schrieb Vlad:
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm considering using of Apache::PageKit for my project, but for
> > different reasons I'd prefer using of the Template::Tollkit as
> > template engine instead of HTML::Template.
> >
> > I saw that it's in TODO list, but wonder is there any alpha version /
> > cvs patches of PageKit available with TT support that I can play with?
> >
> 
> I have a patch with TT support somewhere, it is about a year old. I can not
> remember what it does and what not, but basicly it works. I clean it, merge
> it with a recent PageKit and put it in a public place.
> 
> > thanks.
> 
> --
> Boris
> 


-- 

Vlad

Re: [Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Veeresh K. <vee...@my...>]

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
  <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  <title></title>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Boris Zentner wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid...@2b..." type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">Hi Vlad,

Am Sonntag 01 August 2004 23:34 schrieb Vlad:
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">Hello,

I'm considering using of Apache::PageKit for my project, but for
different reasons I'd prefer using of the Template::Tollkit as
template engine instead of HTML::Template.

I saw that it's in TODO list, but wonder is there any alpha version /
cvs patches of PageKit available with TT support that I can play with?

    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
I have a patch with TT support somewhere, it is about a year old. I can not 
remember what it does and what not, but basicly it works. I clean it, merge 
it with a recent PageKit and put it in a public place.
  </pre>
</blockquote>
Cool! If this happens things will be really cool!<br>
<br>
-Veeresh<br>
<br>
</body>
</html>

Re: [Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi Vlad,

Am Sonntag 01 August 2004 23:34 schrieb Vlad:
> Hello,
>
> I'm considering using of Apache::PageKit for my project, but for
> different reasons I'd prefer using of the Template::Tollkit as
> template engine instead of HTML::Template.
>
> I saw that it's in TODO list, but wonder is there any alpha version /
> cvs patches of PageKit available with TT support that I can play with?
>

I have a patch with TT support somewhere, it is about a year old. I can not 
remember what it does and what not, but basicly it works. I clean it, merge 
it with a recent PageKit and put it in a public place.

> thanks.

-- 
Boris

[Pagekit-users] Template::Toolkit in Apache::PageKit

[Vlad <mar...@gm...>]

Hello,

I'm considering using of Apache::PageKit for my project, but for
different reasons I'd prefer using of the Template::Tollkit as
template engine instead of HTML::Template.

I saw that it's in TODO list, but wonder is there any alpha version /
cvs patches of PageKit available with TT support that I can play with?

thanks.
-- 
Vlad

Re: [Pagekit-users] disappearing form fields

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi Shimon,

Am Samstag 17 Juli 2004 11:09 schrieb Boris Zentner:
>
> Am Samstag 17 Juli 2004 01:38 schrieb Shimon Rura:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is the place to ask this question, but perhaps you
> > can help (or point me somewhere more appropriate).  I've got a pagekit
> > site at http://frassle.rura.org which runs on Apache2.  The site has one
> > page that contains a form for posting or editing a message, called
> > note_add_edit. When you type your note and click the submit button, it
> > submits to note_add_edit_2.
>
> Paul G. Weiss found already a bug in libapreq2, that might be the same as
> yours. It is discussed in the on the apr...@ht...
> mailinglist.
>
> Im short on time later I search for some pointers for you. In short the bug
> showup with ssl support and is not seen without it. Paul discribed the bug
> and provide a testcase.
>
> Paul and I develop a workaround for PageKit.

and here is the patch.

I could not find a pointer to the maillinglist-archive. I retry later.
-- 
Boris