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[Pagekit-users] encoding?

[Erik <eri...@bo...>]

Hi

I have played with pagekit for some time now. And now I would be able to
have a site that use UTF8 internally. But how to I do that. The easy
part is to have all files in UTF-8 and save to the DB in UTF-8 and so
on. But pagekit are smart and sends the page in the encoding the browser
prefers. That is not any problem. But who do I handle the input from a
form?

I mean how do I know what char encoding the web-browser are sending in?
I can't trust the outgoing encoding because that is trivial to change in
ant browser. Afaik there are no serten way to tell what encoding by just
looking at the string.

What are you doing to fix this? Om my previous site i "converted" all to
Latin-1. But that was just a ugly hack. utf8:Is_utf8() and
Encode::is_uft8() won't help they say false on every string passed by
apache. :/


One way is to block pagekit and send everything in UTF-8 because most
often the browser will send the return in UTF-8... but that solution
aren't bullet prof. The user can still send in eg Latin-1 or the browser
do not handle UTF-8 (rare).

Any ideas?

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Re: [Pagekit-users] Error using virtual hosts (Expected token not present)

[Shimon R. <sh...@ru...>]

Carl,

Great, I'm glad you solved your problem. You mentioned running an
interactive Perl debugger with mod_perl -- do you have any suggestions for
where I can learn about this? I've always use "print" debugging in pagekit
apps, but frankly this is kinda lame and I'd be much happier if I could hav=
e
something akin to the remote debugging that Java webapps allow -- you can
ask the java VM to listen on a specified port and connect to it using a
debugger such as the one in the Eclipse IDE. If I could connect to Perl's
interpreter in a similar fashion for debugging mod_perl apps, that would be
really sweet.

A google search turns up
http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/debug.html#Interactive_mod_perl_Debug=
ging

Does anyone know if that is a good document?

Thanks,
shimon.

On 11/13/05, el...@us... <el...@us...>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Shimon,
>
> Good to know someone else has used the same kind of configuration. I have
> not found the root cause, but I have solved my problem for now.
>
> After copying my pagekit-directories back and forth trying different
> vhost-configurations I finally realised it had something to do with the
> name of the vhost!!
>
> I now have a number of vhosts running pagekit, but using the name
> mon.mydomain.net <http://mon.mydomain.net> is failing! :-] I have
> tripple-checked my /etc/hosts...
>
> xmllint was a nice tip. (my profession is in ASIC-design, I guess there
> are some similarities to our HDL-lint tools.) Also found out it is not
> that complicated to run an interactive perl-debugger in combination with
> mod_perl, havent tried it yet though.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> /Carl
>
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Shimon Rura wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:12:51 -0500
> > From: Shimon Rura <sh...@ru...>
> > To: "el...@us..." <el...@us...>
> > Cc: pagekit-users <pag...@li...>
> > Subject: Re: [Pagekit-users] Error using virtual hosts (Expected token
> not
> > present)
> >
> > Hi Carl,
> >
> > I have used this configuration several times, on Apache 1.3 and 2, and
> > haven't had any difficulties.
> >
> > The error message you're getting sounds like a parse error. Could it be
> that
> > your second host's Config.xml file is invalid? If you're unsure, try
> running
> > it through a checker like xmllint. You can also check the syntactic
> validity
> > of your perl files using "perl -c Foo.pm <http://Foo.pm> <http://Foo.pm
> >".
> >
> > If that's not it, you could try placing "print STDERR" messages in
> various
> > places in the pagekit initialization (->startup) code and see how far i=
t
> > gets. I would guess that message is coming from a module that pagekit
> uses,
> > rather than pagekit itself, but you might have to do some sleuthing to
> find
> > out exactly where.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > shimon.
> >
> > On 11/12/05, el...@us... <
> el...@us...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I've just set up two virtual hosts running PageKit.
> >>
> >> (mydomain.net <http://mydomain.net> <http://mydomain.net> &
> mon.mydomain.net <http://mon.mydomain.net><http://mon.mydomain.net>
> >> )
> >>
> >> The pagekit files for the first (default) one are in www/pagekit, and
> for
> >> the second one in www/mon/pagekit
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> www/pagekit/
> >> +---------+ Config/
> >> +---------- -
> >> | Content/
> >> +---------- -
> >> | Model/
> >> +---------+ MyPageKit/
> >> | +----------
> >> | : Common.pm <http://Common.pm> <http://Common.pm>
> >> | : ModelDef.pm
> >> | View/
> >> +---------- -
> >> | contrib/
> >> +---------- -
> >>
> >>
> >> www/mon/
> >> +---------+ pagekit/
> >> +---------+ Config/
> >> +---------- -
> >> | Content/
> >> +---------- -
> >> | Model/
> >> +---------+ MyPageKit2/
> >> | +----------
> >> | : Common.pm <http://Common.pm> <http://Common.pm>
> >> | : ModelMon.pm
> >> | View/
> >> +---------- -
> >> | contrib/
> >> +---------- -
> >>
> >>
> >> I added some debug info and it seems as if both ModelDef and ModelMon,
> and
> >> the two "Common" modules are initialized with correct root-directories=
:
> >>
> >> pkit_root: .../www/pagekit
> >> pkit_root: .../www/mon/pagekit
> >>
> >> The default server works fine, but when I try the second one (mon) I
> get a
> >> 500 - Internal Server Error:
> >>
> >> [Sun Nov 13 01:22:46 2005] [error] [client 192.168.0.2<http://192.168.=
0.2>
> <http://192.168.0.2>]
> >> Expected token not present
> >> [Sun Nov 13 01:22:47 2005] [error] [client 192.168.0.2<http://192.168.=
0.2>
> <http://192.168.0.2>]
> >> Expected token not present
> >>
> >>
> >> ...and PageKit dies in sub _fatal_error
> >>
> >>
> >> Is this setup supposed to work? Can the uri_prefix setting be involved=
?
> >> Any ideas where I can find out more about the token message? (I am
> using
> >> Apache2)
> >>
> >> /Carl
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Pagekit-users] Error using virtual hosts (Expected token not present)

[<el...@us...>]

Hi Shimon,

Good to know someone else has used the same kind of configuration.  I have 
not found the root cause, but I have solved my problem for now.

After copying my pagekit-directories back and forth trying different 
vhost-configurations I finally realised it had something to do with the 
name of the vhost!!

I now have a number of vhosts running pagekit, but using the name
mon.mydomain.net is failing! :-]  I have tripple-checked my /etc/hosts...

xmllint was a nice tip. (my profession is in ASIC-design, I guess there 
are some similarities to our HDL-lint tools.) Also found out it is not 
that complicated to run an interactive perl-debugger in combination with 
mod_perl, havent tried it yet though.


Thanks!

/Carl

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Shimon Rura wrote:

> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:12:51 -0500
> From: Shimon Rura <sh...@ru...>
> To: "el...@us..." <el...@us...>
> Cc: pagekit-users <pag...@li...>
> Subject: Re: [Pagekit-users] Error using virtual hosts (Expected token not
>     present)
> 
> Hi Carl,
>
> I have used this configuration several times, on Apache 1.3 and 2, and
> haven't had any difficulties.
>
> The error message you're getting sounds like a parse error. Could it be that
> your second host's Config.xml file is invalid? If you're unsure, try running
> it through a checker like xmllint. You can also check the syntactic validity
> of your perl files using "perl -c Foo.pm <http://Foo.pm>".
>
> If that's not it, you could try placing "print STDERR" messages in various
> places in the pagekit initialization (->startup) code and see how far it
> gets. I would guess that message is coming from a module that pagekit uses,
> rather than pagekit itself, but you might have to do some sleuthing to find
> out exactly where.
>
> Good luck!
>
> shimon.
>
> On 11/12/05, el...@us... <el...@us...>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I've just set up two virtual hosts running PageKit.
>>
>> (mydomain.net <http://mydomain.net> & mon.mydomain.net<http://mon.mydomain.net>
>> )
>>
>> The pagekit files for the first (default) one are in www/pagekit, and for
>> the second one in www/mon/pagekit
>>
>>
>>
>> www/pagekit/
>> +---------+ Config/
>> +---------- -
>> | Content/
>> +---------- -
>> | Model/
>> +---------+ MyPageKit/
>> | +----------
>> | : Common.pm <http://Common.pm>
>> | : ModelDef.pm
>> | View/
>> +---------- -
>> | contrib/
>> +---------- -
>>
>>
>> www/mon/
>> +---------+ pagekit/
>> +---------+ Config/
>> +---------- -
>> | Content/
>> +---------- -
>> | Model/
>> +---------+ MyPageKit2/
>> | +----------
>> | : Common.pm <http://Common.pm>
>> | : ModelMon.pm
>> | View/
>> +---------- -
>> | contrib/
>> +---------- -
>>
>>
>> I added some debug info and it seems as if both ModelDef and ModelMon, and
>> the two "Common" modules are initialized with correct root-directories:
>>
>> pkit_root: .../www/pagekit
>> pkit_root: .../www/mon/pagekit
>>
>> The default server works fine, but when I try the second one (mon) I get a
>> 500 - Internal Server Error:
>>
>> [Sun Nov 13 01:22:46 2005] [error] [client 192.168.0.2<http://192.168.0.2>]
>> Expected token not present
>> [Sun Nov 13 01:22:47 2005] [error] [client 192.168.0.2<http://192.168.0.2>]
>> Expected token not present
>>
>>
>> ...and PageKit dies in sub _fatal_error
>>
>>
>> Is this setup supposed to work? Can the uri_prefix setting be involved?
>> Any ideas where I can find out more about the token message? (I am using
>> Apache2)
>>
>> /Carl
>>
>>
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>>
>

Re: [Pagekit-users] Error using virtual hosts (Expected token not present)

[Shimon R. <sh...@ru...>]

Hi Carl,

I have used this configuration several times, on Apache 1.3 and 2, and
haven't had any difficulties.

The error message you're getting sounds like a parse error. Could it be tha=
t
your second host's Config.xml file is invalid? If you're unsure, try runnin=
g
it through a checker like xmllint. You can also check the syntactic validit=
y
of your perl files using "perl -c Foo.pm <http://Foo.pm>".

If that's not it, you could try placing "print STDERR" messages in various
places in the pagekit initialization (->startup) code and see how far it
gets. I would guess that message is coming from a module that pagekit uses,
rather than pagekit itself, but you might have to do some sleuthing to find
out exactly where.

Good luck!

shimon.

On 11/12/05, el...@us... <el...@us...>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I've just set up two virtual hosts running PageKit.
>
> (mydomain.net <http://mydomain.net> & mon.mydomain.net<http://mon.mydomai=
n.net>
> )
>
> The pagekit files for the first (default) one are in www/pagekit, and for
> the second one in www/mon/pagekit
>
>
>
> www/pagekit/
> +---------+ Config/
> +---------- -
> | Content/
> +---------- -
> | Model/
> +---------+ MyPageKit/
> | +----------
> | : Common.pm <http://Common.pm>
> | : ModelDef.pm
> | View/
> +---------- -
> | contrib/
> +---------- -
>
>
> www/mon/
> +---------+ pagekit/
> +---------+ Config/
> +---------- -
> | Content/
> +---------- -
> | Model/
> +---------+ MyPageKit2/
> | +----------
> | : Common.pm <http://Common.pm>
> | : ModelMon.pm
> | View/
> +---------- -
> | contrib/
> +---------- -
>
>
> I added some debug info and it seems as if both ModelDef and ModelMon, an=
d
> the two "Common" modules are initialized with correct root-directories:
>
> pkit_root: .../www/pagekit
> pkit_root: .../www/mon/pagekit
>
> The default server works fine, but when I try the second one (mon) I get =
a
> 500 - Internal Server Error:
>
> [Sun Nov 13 01:22:46 2005] [error] [client 192.168.0.2<http://192.168.0.2=
>]
> Expected token not present
> [Sun Nov 13 01:22:47 2005] [error] [client 192.168.0.2<http://192.168.0.2=
>]
> Expected token not present
>
>
> ...and PageKit dies in sub _fatal_error
>
>
> Is this setup supposed to work? Can the uri_prefix setting be involved?
> Any ideas where I can find out more about the token message? (I am using
> Apache2)
>
> /Carl
>
>
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[Pagekit-users] Error using virtual hosts (Expected token not present)

[<el...@us...>]

Hi!

I've just set up two virtual hosts running PageKit.

  (mydomain.net & mon.mydomain.net)

The pagekit files for the first (default) one are in www/pagekit, and for 
the second one in www/mon/pagekit



   www/pagekit/
+---------+ Config/
           +---------- -
           | Content/
           +---------- -
           | Model/
           +---------+ MyPageKit/
           |         +----------
           |                   : Common.pm
           |                   : ModelDef.pm
           | View/
           +---------- -
           | contrib/
           +---------- -


   www/mon/
+---------+ pagekit/
           +---------+ Config/
                     +---------- -
                     | Content/
                     +---------- -
                     | Model/
                     +---------+ MyPageKit2/
                     |         +----------
                     |                   : Common.pm
                     |                   : ModelMon.pm
                     | View/
                     +---------- -
                     | contrib/
                     +---------- -


I added some debug info and it seems as if both ModelDef and ModelMon, and 
the two "Common" modules are initialized with correct root-directories:

   pkit_root: .../www/pagekit
   pkit_root: .../www/mon/pagekit

The default server works fine, but when I try the second one (mon) I get a
  500 - Internal Server Error:

[Sun Nov 13 01:22:46 2005] [error] [client 192.168.0.2] Expected token not present
[Sun Nov 13 01:22:47 2005] [error] [client 192.168.0.2] Expected token not present


...and PageKit dies in sub _fatal_error


Is this setup supposed to work? Can the uri_prefix setting be involved?
Any ideas where I can find out more about the token message? (I am using 
Apache2)

/Carl

[Pagekit-users] Apache2::PageKit-2.14

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

here is a first try to port Apache::PageKit to the new mod_perl2 API.  
Try it.

http://eg.2bz.de/Apache2-PageKit-2.14_14.tar.gz

You need perl 5.8, apache2, mod_perl2 and at least libapreq2.06-dev.

Good luck.

--
Boris

[Pagekit-users] anyone tried pagekit on LAMPPIX or other bootable CD?

[Shimon R. <sh...@ru...>]

Has anyone tried creating a custom LAMPPIX bootable CD with a PageKit site?

LAMPPIX (http://lamppix.tinowagner.com/) is a linux distribution based on
Knoppix.  Like knoppix, it is designed to boot from CD and autodetect a
bunch of different hardware.  But lamppix also includes apache and
mysql/postgresql databases, and is designed to create bootable demos of
LAMP-based web applications.

I like the idea of a bootable demo CD a lot, but haven't had much time to
experiment with it.  Has anyone else tried making a LAMPPIX or similar
bootable demo CD?  Have you gotten PageKit on it?

(I'm also hoping that perhaps this will give someone a good reason to try it
out and let me know how it goes... :)

Thanks!

shimon.

P.S. I just released a new PageKit-based web application at
http://voo2do.com.  It's an ajax-ish todo list manager and has had a
surprising popularity surge since I announced it two days ago.

Re: [Pagekit-users] trouble setting content-type

[Boris Z. <bo...@2b...>]

Hi Evan,

sorry for the delay, I had no chance to read the list lately. Are you sure the 
page is delivered in the wrong charset? It looks to me, that your client 
preferes another charset, or is only able to serve the default (iso-8859-1). 
You setup look correct to me.

All clients told the server what charset they can handle. If this header is 
not present iso-8859-1 is assumed. If pagekit is able to convert the page to 
a charset that the client can handle, it does that. That might explain why 
you end up with a charset iso-8859-1.

Here is a little  prove:

The page http://eg.2bz.de/charset includes char that are handled different for 
iso-8859-1 and utf8.

I download the page with wget:
  
  wget --header='Accept-Charset: iso-8859-1' http://eg.2bz.de/charset

and a second time with

  wget --header='Accept-Charset:utf-8' http://eg.2bz.de/charset

this result in two files, delivered in different charsets as the client 
requests.

-rw-r--r--  1 boris users 121 2005-05-24 23:54 charset
-rw-r--r--  1 boris users 146 2005-05-24 23:54 charset.1

  0000: 3c 68 74 6d 6c 3e 0a 3c 62 6f 64 79 3e 0a 3c 68  <html>.<body>.<h
  0010: 31 3e 69 6e 64 65 78 2e 74 6d 70 6c 3a 20 73 74  1>index.tmpl: st
  0020: 72 61 26 23 32 32 33 3b 65 20 20 20 73 74 72 61  ra&#223;e   stra
  0030: df 65 20 f6 f6 e4 f6 fc e4 fc f6 fc fc 20 20 3c  .e ..........  <
  0040: 2f 68 31 3e 0a 3c 62 72 3e 0a 3c 68 31 3e 73 74  /h1>.<br>.<h1>st
  0050: 72 61 df 65 20 df df f6 e4 f6 e4 f6 fc e4 f6 e4  ra.e ...........
  0060: fc fc 20 3c 2f 68 31 3e 0a 3c 2f 62 6f 64 79 3e  .. </h1>.</body>
  0070: 0a 3c 2f 68 74 6d 6c 3e 0a                       .</html>.       

  0000: 3c 68 74 6d 6c 3e 0a 3c 62 6f 64 79 3e 0a 3c 68  <html>.<body>.<h
  0010: 31 3e 69 6e 64 65 78 2e 74 6d 70 6c 3a 20 73 74  1>index.tmpl: st
  0020: 72 61 26 23 32 32 33 3b 65 20 20 20 73 74 72 61  ra&#223;e   stra
  0030: c3 9f 65 20 c3 b6 c3 b6 c3 a4 c3 b6 c3 bc c3 a4  ..e ............
  0040: c3 bc c3 b6 c3 bc c3 bc 20 20 3c 2f 68 31 3e 0a  ........  </h1>.
  0050: 3c 62 72 3e 0a 3c 68 31 3e 73 74 72 61 c3 9f 65  <br>.<h1>stra..e
  0060: 20 c3 9f c3 9f c3 b6 c3 a4 c3 b6 c3 a4 c3 b6 c3   ...............
  0070: bc c3 a4 c3 b6 c3 a4 c3 bc c3 bc 20 3c 2f 68 31  ........... </h1
  0080: 3e 0a 3c 2f 62 6f 64 79 3e 0a 3c 2f 68 74 6d 6c  >.</body>.</html
  0090: 3e 0a                                            >.              


I guess your testclient does not include a header or prefere iso-8859-1 and 
pagekit kindly provide that ;-)

Am Dienstag, 10. Mai 2005 06:12 schrieb Evan Miller:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to have the server declare UTF-8 as the charset when it
> serves up a page, but I can't get it to change from ISO-8859-1. Here is
> the relevant part of my Config.xml:
>
>    <GLOBAL
>          default_page="index"
>          gzip_output = "static"
>          login_page="login1"
>          model_base_class="WSOKit::Common"
>          model_dispatch_prefix="WSOKit::Model"
>          recent_login_timeout="10"
>          session_expires="+1y"
>          default_input_charset="utf-8"
>          default_output_charset="utf-8"
>          />
>
> I've also tried "utf8" for the charset name, as well as the capitalized
> forms, but no luck. Even when I set Apache's default character set to
> UTF-8, PageKit pages are still served as ISO-8859-1. Any ideas?
>
> Evan
>
>
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[Pagekit-users] trouble setting content-type

[Evan M. <Eva...@wi...>]

Hello,

I am trying to have the server declare UTF-8 as the charset when it 
serves up a page, but I can't get it to change from ISO-8859-1. Here is 
the relevant part of my Config.xml:

   <GLOBAL
         default_page="index"
         gzip_output = "static"
         login_page="login1"
         model_base_class="WSOKit::Common"
         model_dispatch_prefix="WSOKit::Model"
         recent_login_timeout="10"
         session_expires="+1y"
         default_input_charset="utf-8"
         default_output_charset="utf-8"
         />

I've also tried "utf8" for the charset name, as well as the capitalized 
forms, but no luck. Even when I set Apache's default character set to 
UTF-8, PageKit pages are still served as ISO-8859-1. Any ideas?

Evan

[Pagekit-users] Gouranga

[Neateye <nit...@ao...>]

Call out Gouranga be happy!!!
Gouranga Gouranga Gouranga ....
That which brings the highest happiness!!

[Pagekit-users] ANNOUNCE: Apache::PageKit 1.18 & ANNOUNCE: Apache::PageKit 2.14_14

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

I upload Apache::PageKit 1.18 and Apache::PageKit 2.14_14.
Both have only a very minor change in the testsuit.

No need to update. I just want that new users survive the testsuit ;-)

http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-1.18.tar.gz
http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_14.tar.gz

1.18
         - Allow testsuit to catch up with Changes in Apache::Test.
                 POST's can be redirected on the fly.
                 Otherwise the tests 05, 06 and 07 fail.
                 ( Boris Zentner )

--
Boris

[Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_13

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

not much new, just address shimon's session problem a bit. The new 
global option use_recent_login_timeout is a big benefit if you do _not_ 
use require_login = "recent" anywhere and you set 
use_recent_login_timeout = "no" . Probably further version have yes, no 
and auto so you do not keep track of the require_login option in the 
average case.

2.14_13
         - Add: new config option use_recent_login_timeout in the global
                 section of Config.xml. Defaults to yes.
                 ( Boris Zentner, Shimon Rura )
         - Adjust Makefile.PL to support ExtUtils::MakeMaker > 6.21
                 ( Boris Zentner, Mike Castle )


http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_13.tar.gz

--
Boris

[Pagekit-users] Intro on Apache::PageKit in german online

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

here is a quick intro on how Apache::PageKit is working. Written in 
german. Hopefully someone like to read it.

http://eg.2bz.de/html/article_borisz68.html

--
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] Apache2 install problems

[Boris Z. <bo...@2b...>]

Hi Collin,

It looks that you update a application from mod_perl 1 to mod_perl 2.
In mod_perl 2, there is no Apache::Constants anymore ;-).

Is is renames to Apache::Const.

Findout what you are doing there. Mostlikely it is

use Apache::Constants qw/REDIRECT DONE OK/;

or similar.
Replace that line with 

use Apache::Const qw/REDIRECT DONE OK/;

propably thats enough.

Am Dienstag, 1. Februar 2005 05:12 schrieb Collin Starkweather:
> I am trying to install Apache::PageKit on Apache2 on a Gentoo box.  I
> seem to be in the home stretch but have hit a stumbling block.
>
> I installed mod_perl 1.99.17-r1 and libapreq2 2.04.03 and
> Apache::PageKit 2.14_12.  However, when I try to start Apache2, I get
>
> --
> # APACHE2_OPTS='-DPERL' /etc/init.d/apache2 start
>  * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files:
> Syntax error on line 73 of /usr/lib/apache2/conf/vhosts/vhosts.conf:
> Failed to load PageKit::Common (Can't locate Apache/Constants.pm in
> @INC (@INC contains:
> /app/apache2/site/www.collinstarkweather.com/pagekit/Model
> /home/httpd/perl /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Apache2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5
> ... blah blah blah ...
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Apache2/Apache/PageKit.pm line 156.\n
> #
> --
>
> I feel like I am missing something fundamental.  If I try to install
> Apache::Constants with `perl -MCPAN -e 'install Apache::Constants`,
> installation of mod_perl-1.29 commences, which is not what I want.  Is
> Apache::Constants supposed to be bundled with mod_perl?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Collin
>
> P.S.  Output of `make test` (summary:  All test successful) is below my
> sig in case it is helpful.

-- 
Boris

[Pagekit-users] Apache2 install problems

[Collin S. <col...@co...>]

I am trying to install Apache::PageKit on Apache2 on a Gentoo box.  I
seem to be in the home stretch but have hit a stumbling block.

I installed mod_perl 1.99.17-r1 and libapreq2 2.04.03 and
Apache::PageKit 2.14_12.  However, when I try to start Apache2, I get

--
# APACHE2_OPTS='-DPERL' /etc/init.d/apache2 start
 * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files:
Syntax error on line 73 of /usr/lib/apache2/conf/vhosts/vhosts.conf:
Failed to load PageKit::Common (Can't locate Apache/Constants.pm in
@INC (@INC contains:
/app/apache2/site/www.collinstarkweather.com/pagekit/Model
/home/httpd/perl /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Apache2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5
... blah blah blah ...
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Apache2/Apache/PageKit.pm line 156.\n
#
--

I feel like I am missing something fundamental.  If I try to install
Apache::Constants with `perl -MCPAN -e 'install Apache::Constants`,
installation of mod_perl-1.29 commences, which is not what I want.  Is
Apache::Constants supposed to be bundled with mod_perl?  

Thanks,

-Collin

P.S.  Output of `make test` (summary:  All test successful) is below my
sig in case it is helpful.
 
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Collin Starkweather, Ph.D.  col...@co...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


starky@www Apache-PageKit-2.14_12 $ make test
/usr/bin/perl5.8.5 -Iblib/arch/Apache2 -Iblib/lib/Apache2 \
t/TEST  -clean
[warning] setting ulimit to allow core files
ulimit -c
unlimited; /usr/bin/perl5.8.5 /home/starky/junk/Apache-PageKit-2.14_12/t/TEST -clean --documentroot '/home/starky/junk/Apache-PageKit-2.14_12/eg'
Can't locate t/conf/apache_test_config.pm in @INC (@INC
contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Apache2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux/Apache2 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2 /usr/lib/apache2) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux/Apache/TestRun.pm line 771.
APACHE_TEST_GROUP= APACHE_TEST_HTTPD= APACHE_TEST_PORT=
APACHE_TEST_USER= APACHE_TEST_APXS= \
/usr/bin/perl5.8.5 -Iblib/arch/Apache2 -Iblib/lib/Apache2 \
t/TEST  -bugreport -verbose=0 
[warning] setting ulimit to allow core files
ulimit -c
unlimited; /usr/bin/perl5.8.5 /home/starky/junk/Apache-PageKit-2.14_12/t/TEST -bugreport -verbose=0 --documentroot '/home/starky/junk/Apache-PageKit-2.14_12/eg'
Can't locate t/conf/apache_test_config.pm in @INC (@INC
contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Apache2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux/Apache2 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2 /usr/lib/apache2) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux/Apache/TestRun.pm line 771.
/usr/sbin/apache2  -d /home/starky/junk/Apache-PageKit-2.14_12/t
-f /home/starky/junk/Apache-PageKit-2.14_12/t/conf/httpd.conf -D
APACHE2 
using Apache/2.0.52 (prefork MPM)

waiting 60 seconds for server to start: .......
waiting 60 seconds for server to start: ok (waited 5 secs)
server localhost:8529 started
t/01_dummy....................ok                                             
t/02_language.................ok                                             
t/03_charset..................ok                                             
t/04_anon_cookies.............ok                                             
t/05_account..................ok                                             
t/06_login....................ok                                             
t/07_restricted...............ok                                             
t/08_fresh_cookie_redirect....ok                                             
t/09_charset_tmpl.............ok                                             
t/10_pkit_comment.............ok                                             
All tests successful.
Files=10, Tests=67, 13 wallclock secs (10.28 cusr +  0.59 csys = 10.87
CPU)
[warning] server localhost:8529 shutdown
starky@www Apache-PageKit-2.14_12 $

[Pagekit-users] ANNOUNCE: Apache::PageKit-1.17

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi again,

unfortunely I included a small, but important typo in the 1.16 release. 
So here is a new try.

1.17
         - Fix: a new typo in Makefile.PL
                 -+binmode $template_fh, 
':encoding($default_input_charset)';
                 ++binmode $template_fh, 
":encoding($default_input_charset)";
                 ( Boris Zentner )


Sorry

--
Boris

[Pagekit-users] ANNOUNCE: Apahce::PageKit-1.16

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

No Big deal, just fix some typos.

1.16
         ! The param method returns a empty list in list context if
                 the param was not defined. Older PageKits returned undef
                 ( Boris Zentner )
         - Fix: add missing : in binmode $fh, ":encoding(...)";
                 ( Boris Zentner )
         - Fix: typo in scripts/pkit_rename_app.pl ( Boris Zentner )

--
Boris

[Pagekit-users] Wanted: Profereaders for Apache::PageKit newbie article ( german )

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

I write an article for new Apache::PageKit users in german. I hope some 
of you like to read the Article before it is published.

Please do me a flavor and read the text to make it better. Do not wait, 
just drop me a mail and read it as one of the first.
Im ready on 29.12.2004.

--
Boris

[Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_12

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

I just upload Apache-PageKit-2.14_12 to 
http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_12.tar.gz.
It works with the mod_perl >= 1.9916 and libapreq2-2.04_03-dev.

http://eg.2bz.de/download

The only change is that Apache::ErrorReport should work again with 
mod_perl2.

--
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] CGI::PageKit?

[Erik <eri...@bo...>]

l=F6r 2004-10-09 klockan 15:10 +0200 skrev Boris Zentner:
> Hi,
> from time to time I think on a version of PageKit that works with CGI=20
> and LWP instead of mod_perl, has anybody a opinion on such a module? It=20
> may work where mod_perl is not avail or when another persistent module=20
> is used like mod_cgi or pperl or whatever. Also CGI::PageKit could=20
> serve pages without Apache. I thought of it as a dropin replacement for=20
> pagekit, just that you get a CGI object instead of apr. Currently this=20
> is only a idea to waste some time. What do you think?
>=20

It would be nice to have FCGI::Pagekit. Pagekit in a FCGI
environment. It would give the benefits of persistent Pagekit (as in
mod_perl) and the benefits of a standalone app that one can slowly
immigrate
to. When you already have large site it is quite hard to immigrate to
Pagekit due to the fact that so match code need to be converted and
often there are no time to convert the hole site at once. But small
parts can be converted at time to time.=20

I'm actually at braking point where I need the Pagekit in FastCGI
environment or at least part of PageKit. Pagekit in a only-CGI
environment would be to slow. But then if Pagekit exist in a CGI
environment its a Small thing to convert it to a FCGI-environment. Its
already multi-usage-safe (due to mod_perl).

We have converted several CGI to FastCGI by just adding a loop and
remove exit from the code. Like this:


my $request =3D FCGI::Request();
my $unload_file =3D '.unload';
my $mtime =3D (stat $unload_file)[9];
while($request->Accept() >=3D 0) {
    eval {
      main_body();
    };
    warn $@ if($@);
} continue {
    exit if (stat $unload_file)[9] > $mtime;
}


sub main_body {
    #old  CGI-code
}
 =20

The .unload file are for restarting the FastCGI progs by just touching
it (touch .unload). And in Apache we only have a FastCGI handler for
.fcgi. So we can have two copies (.fcgi and .cgi) of the prog one that
are handle by
FastCGI and one that are normal CGI (slower of cause, but good for
development).

--=20

   /erikg=20
  =20
Erik G=FCnther                                     eri...@bo...
System Developer                                                Bokus AB
+46 (0)40 - 35 21 19                                      icq: 160744619   =
          =20
 =20
Fortune:
<taniwha> Zoid: we're nuts, but we're productive nuts:)
* taniwha wonders what productive nuts taste like

Re: [Pagekit-users] disabling use of session?

[Boris Z. <bo...@2b...>]

Hi Shimon,

Am Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 16:20 hast Du geschrieben:
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 12:58:50PM +0100, Boris Zentner wrote:
> > The session's are a tricky thing. But are you really sure that you did
> > not use sessions at all?
> >
> > Off Hand, PageKit does not create a session unless you use the session.
> > If you are logged in, the user  must have a session, since at least the
> > last_activity_time is stored in the session.
>
> In one site, I don't have user logins, and don't call $model->session ever.
> So, I'm pretty sure I never use sessions.  In another site, I have logins

There you should not see any sessions.

> but don't store any data in $model->session.  I don't make use of the
> last_activity_time there - none of the pages or sections require a recent
> login.

But you could use it on a page, pagekit can not know and store the time into 
the session.

( perhaps we can store the last_activity_time in the pkit_user table. And/Or 
make the last_activity thing a config option. )

>
> > > - Can I manually disable instantiation of session if I don't use it? 
> > > (Or is pagekit using it internally for some reason?)
> > >
> > >
> > > - Could PageKit be made a little smarter in order to eliminate my
> > > reason for considering that option?
> >
> > try
> >
> > sub pkit_session_setup {
> >   {}
> > }
> >
> > in Common.pm to trash the session. This might give lots of warnings, but
> > perhaps it works. Please let me know.
>
> This gave me the following warning in the apache error log:
>
> failed to set up session - session_store_class and session_lock_class must
> be defined at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/Apache/PageKit.pm line 1258.
>

Thats ok, just comment out the warning and mensure the time four your 
requests. Is there a large speedup now?

> This warning was printed twice per page request - I'm not sure why (there
> are at least three PKIT_COMPONENTs, but only one HTTP request, involved in
> the pages I tried, if that's useful).
>

I take a look, why you see two calls to pkit_session_setup. 

> For additional info, I added a Carp::confess to that the subroutine that
> contains line 1258 of PageKit.pm.  The output is below.  I don't have time
> to trace this call stack now, but perhaps it will be useful to Boris in
> understanding why the session setup got called although I didn't use the
> session.

It is ok to call the pkit_session_setup, if you are a logged user. With 
pkit_session_setup returning a empty hash, we make the session only valid for 
this request and it is not slower than using a hash in perl.

Please mensure if sub pkit_session_setup { {} } is a large speedup. And Ignore 
or comment out the warning. 

>
> thanks,
> shimon.
>
> [Fri Dec 17 10:16:27 2004] [error] [client 66.249.64.197] setup_session at
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/Apache/PageKit.pm line
> 1253\n\tApache::PageKit::setup_session('Apache::PageKit=HASH(0xa59dc34)','u
>ndef')
>
> called at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/Apache/PageKit.pm line
> 529\n\tApache::PageKit::prepare_page('Apache::PageKit=HASH(0xa59dc34)')
>
> called at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/Apache/PageKit.pm line 216\n\teval
> {...}
>
> called at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/Apache/PageKit.pm line
> 210\n\tApache::PageKit::handler('Apache::PageKit','Apache::RequestRec=SCALA
>R(0xa59dd60)')
>
> called at -e line 0\n\teval {...} called at -e line 0\n

-- 
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] disabling use of session?

[Boris Z. <bo...@2b...>]

Hi Shimon,

Am Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 22:41 schrieb sh...@ru...:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know of a way to disable instantiation of the
> (Apache::SessionX) session object for each pagekit request?  I have an
> application that does not use session at all, but each page request incurs
> the performance hit of instantiating one of these and loading data off disk
> or off DB.

The session's are a tricky thing. But are you really sure that you did not use 
sessions at all?

Off Hand, PageKit does not create a session unless you use the session. If you 
are logged in, the user  must have a session, since at least the 
last_activity_time is stored in the session.

>
> Perhaps a better solution would be "lazy" instantiation of SessionX - only
> instantiate it on the first call to $model->session.  That way, if any
> request does not require access to the session, it will not incur the
> startup cost, without the programmer having to actually think about this.
>
> (Instantiating a session can be slow because it means loading data from
> disk or DB.)
>
> So in short:
>
> - Can I manually disable instantiation of session if I don't use it?  (Or
> is pagekit using it internally for some reason?)
>

> - Could PageKit be made a little smarter in order to eliminate my reason
> for considering that option?
>

try 

sub pkit_session_setup {
  {}
}

in Common.pm to trash the session. This might give lots of warnings, but 
perhaps it works. Please let me know.


> thanks,
> shimon.


-- 
Boris

[Pagekit-users] disabling use of session?

[<sh...@ru...>]

Hi,

Does anyone know of a way to disable instantiation of the (Apache::SessionX)
session object for each pagekit request?  I have an application that does
not use session at all, but each page request incurs the performance hit of
instantiating one of these and loading data off disk or off DB.

Perhaps a better solution would be "lazy" instantiation of SessionX - only
instantiate it on the first call to $model->session.  That way, if any
request does not require access to the session, it will not incur the
startup cost, without the programmer having to actually think about this.

(Instantiating a session can be slow because it means loading data from disk
or DB.)

So in short:

- Can I manually disable instantiation of session if I don't use it?  (Or is
  pagekit using it internally for some reason?)

- Could PageKit be made a little smarter in order to eliminate my reason for
  considering that option?

thanks,
shimon.

[Pagekit-users] Apache-PageKit-2.14_11

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi,

now on http://eg.2bz.de/Apache-PageKit-2.14_11.tar.gz

Only minor changes

2.14_11
         ! The param method returns a empty list in list context if
                 the param was not defined. Older PageKits returned undef
                 ( Boris Zentner )
         - Fix: add missing : in binmode $fh, ":encoding(...)";
                 ( Boris Zentner )
         - Fix: typo in scripts/pkit_rename_app.pl ( Boris Zentner )

--
Boris

Re: [Pagekit-users] referral field in the http request

[Boris Z. <bz...@2b...>]

Hi Alex,

Am 21.11.2004 um 10:35 schrieb Alex Deva:

> Thanks. I'll try it first thing Monday morning.
> Which reminds me. I've been thinking about setting up a development 
> environment on my iBook G3 (my Darwin came with Apache 1.3.29 and perl 
> 5.6.0)
>
> Is there anything I should know about, prior to installing all the 
> required modules and fighting with httpd.conf a lot? :) I'm especially 
> worried about updating (or installing, i haven't checked it) libxml2 
> and libxsl2 (on RedHat it was easy, you just updated with rpm). Any 
> other required modules that might have issues running on a Mac with 
> MacOS 10.2.8?
>
> Thanks anyone for any advice.
>

I had no trouble to set up perl 5.8.[145], apache2 mod_perl2 and all 
required modules for Apache::PageKit. But I use Panther ( 10.3.[56] ).
I Installed all custom libraries with fink.

http://fink.sourceforge.net/index.php?phpLang=en

Also I really love camelbones, even there is no package for your ( 
10.2.8 ) but you may request one. See the top of this page:

http://camelbones.sourceforge.net/download/fat-install.php

> On Friday, November 19, 2004, at 07:39  PM, Boris Zentner wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Am Freitag, 19. November 2004 15:40 schrieb Alex Deva:
>>> The env var seems to not be set all the time. This might be because 
>>> I'm
>>> reaching the page via http redirect, and you never know (or do you?)
>>>
>>> Boris, the correctly spelled method is "header_in" and it works like 
>>> so:
>>>
>>> my $referer = $apr->header_in('Referer');
>>>
>>
>> This works only with apache1.
>>
>>  apache2 and apache1 should support
>> my $href = $apr->headers_in;
>>
>> here is a example:
>>
>> Maybe you did not see the header, since the client must not send the 
>> referer
>> header.
>>
>> #### Modelcode ######
>>
>> # show all headers
>>
>> sub alex {
>>   my $model = shift;
>>   my $href = $model->apr->headers_in;
>>   $model->output(
>>     headers => [ map { +{ name => $_, value => $href->{$_} } } sort 
>> keys
>> %$href
>>     ] );
>> }
>>
>>
>> ######### alex.tmpl #########
>> <html>
>> <body>
>>  <model_loop headers>
>>    <model_var name> <model_var value><br>
>>  </model_loop>
>> </body>
>> </html>
>>
>>
>> ####### output ( ignore ) ###########
>>
>> Accept */*
>> Accept-Encoding gzip, deflate;q=1.0, identity;q=0.5, *;q=0
>> Accept-Language de-de, ja;q=0.77, en;q=0.92, nl-nl;q=0.88, nl;q=0.85,
>> ja-jp;q=0.81, de;q=0.96, fr;q=0.73, es;q=0.69, it-it;q=0.65, 
>> it;q=0.62,
>> sv-se;q=0.58, sv;q=0.54, no-no;q=0.50, no;q=0.46, da-dk;q=0.42, 
>> da;q=0.38,
>> fi-fi;q=0.35, fi;q=0.31
>> Connection keep-alive
>> Cookie pkit_session_id=fdb814523909709a3a697ee14fbcc1a0
>> Host localhost:8529
>> User-Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; de-de) 
>> AppleWebKit/125.5.5
>> (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/125.11
>>
>>> (I've just found that out, I didn't know about it, thank you!)
>>>
>>> but... still no result.
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway.
>>>
>>>

[...]

--
Boris