Can't Program Atmel devices

[Rhonn]

Hi,

Just finished my programmer and also construct adapter for 28/40 pins PIC and
it work flawlessly, but so frustrated with ATMEL..:(

I tried several ATMega8 and AT90S2313 but only get this error:

Synchronization error

Device detected: vid=0x04D8 pid=0x0100
Path: \?\hid#vid_04d8&pid_0100#6&24c088c1&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-
88cb-001111000030}
Programmer detected
Firmware version 0.7.6
Hardware ID: 0.0.1 (18F2550)

Synchronization error

What seems to be the problem??

[Alberto Maccioni]

It means that the device doe snot respond to SPI commands.
First of all: are you using the Atmel AVR adapter?

[Rhonn]

Yes sir I built the adapter for Atmel...Which PIN the SPI comes in??

[Rhonn]

is that from RB1? BTW I used PIC18F2455 instead of 2550...

[Alberto Maccioni]

No, it's RB0, and RC7 the output.
2455 or 2550 is the same, it's done in software.
Try to read with Tiny2313, that uses a slower data rate.

[Rhonn]

Sir same error with Tiny2313..:(

here is my programmer

[ded6moroz]

Having the same error. Using PIC18F2550 and ATMEL adapter.

[Alberto Maccioni]

You'r using the wrong socket, that one is for Tinyx61A; put your device on the
upper socket with alignment to pin 1.

[ded6moroz]

The upper socket is the only one that I used to program ATMega8A. It is the
only 28-pin socket in this adapter.

[Alberto Maccioni]

Ok, I thought the picture was referring to your test.
Can you check the SPI communication with an oscilloscope?

[ded6moroz]

I-ll try. But what should I see there?

[ded6moroz]

Sorry, no need... As my friend say - Problem always being of two types - 1.
Thereis a contact whereit shouldn-t be, or 2. There is no contact where it
must be... Other is only variations of this two. So there was a contact
between pins on that socket. Sorry again.

[Rhonn]

Nothing change...same error..even with ATMega8A plug on the 28pins socket..

Synchronization error

[Rhonn]

Damn! I got it!

Device detected: vid=0x04D8 pid=0x0100
Path: \?\hid#vid_04d8&pid_0100#6&24c088c1&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-
88cb-001111000030}
Programmer detected
Firmware version 0.7.6
Hardware ID: 0.0.1 (18F2550)

CHIP ID:1E9307
Atmel ATmega8 8KB Flash
LOCK bits: 0xFF
FUSE bits: 0xE1
FUSE HIGH bits: 0xD9
Calibration bits: 0xBD,0xBC,0xB7,0xB8
Reading code ... completed
Reading EEPROM ... completed

Code memory:
(empty)

EEPROM memory:
(empty)

End (3.06 s)

this time im using ATmega8L...where should I put the AT90S2313? same socket
with Mega8??

[Rhonn]

tried reading ATTiny12 and the device was set to ATTiny2313 here's what i
get..

CHIP ID:1E9005
Atmel Unknown device
1KB Flash
LOCK bits: 0x86
FUSE bits: 0x52
FUSE HIGH bits: 0x86
Extended FUSE bits: 0x52
Calibration bits: 0x40,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF
Reading code ... completed
Reading EEPROM ... completed

Code memory:
03E0: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
FF FF FF FF FF FF 40 FF
07E0: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
FF FF FF FF FF FF 40 FF

EEPROM memory:
0030: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 40 ...............@
0070: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 40 ...............@

End (1.94 s)

I think you can just update the GUI adding ATTiny12 as well...:D

[Alberto Maccioni]

So it was an hardware issue; just the shorted pins?
90S2313 goes in the same 28 pin socket, aligned to pin 1.
Regarding the tiny12 it would need HV programming to claim full support; now
you can just read.

[Rhonn]

So it was an hardware issue; just the shorted pins? 90S2313 goes in the same
28 pin socket, aligned to pin 1. Regarding the tiny12 it would need HV
programming to claim full support; now you can just read.

No I don't see any hardware issue or shorted pins..just plug in a new Mega8L
and READ...do you think my other Atmel are defective??

[Alberto Maccioni]

Serial programming can be disabled via fuse, so your other part might be
locked.
But you can only disable it with parallel programming, so it depends from what
programmer was used before.

[Rhonn]

oh i see...so I need a HVPP for this...

[Alberto Maccioni]

Not necessarily. Was it programmed with HVPP?

[Rhonn]

I don't have any idea...just pulled it out from one of my box..

[ded6moroz]

Interesting... I can't program any PIC device... AVR works fine, but PIC's...
It says Communication timeout. I found, that there is no 5v on CK, D, PGM
outs. Could it be because i used LPT-programmer like Art-Joy to write main
18F2550?

By the way. When i performing hardware test i see the voltages on step 1, but
after it (steps 2, 3, 4) i can't see any voltage on 20-pin socket.

[Alberto Maccioni]

If the hardware test fails you cannot expect a correct operation.
The programmer used to flash the main micro does not have any influence as
long as it writes the firmware correctly.

[ded6moroz]

Does it mean, that I need to check out only power regulator? Or I need to
reflash the main micro again too? I checked written firmware twice before
assembling open programmer.

During hardware test GUI says "Communication timeout". Is it correct, or it
shouldn't show this message in log window?

[Alberto Maccioni]

Errors are not normal, as you may expect.
If you are sure about your flashing process there's no need to repeat it; once
you verify that the hardware is detected by your pc you can be reasonably sure
that the firmware is working correctly.
Check carefully your hardware looking for shorts, opens, or mounting errors.