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From: Simon B. <si...@ba...> - 2014-01-10 14:37:01
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Phil Holmes <ma...@ph...> wrote:
> Can't work out the beat structure. Are the last 2 beats regular and the
> first 2 beats all in triplets? i.e. voice one in the RH: triplet crochets
> followed by dotted quaver/semi quaver occupying a triplet crochet space?
i read the following:
RH
voiceOne: \tuplet 3/2 2 { 4 4 8. 16 } 4 r4
voiceTwo: \tuplet 3/2 2 { 8[ 8] 8[ 8] 8[ 8] } 4 r4
LH
voiceOne: \tuplet 6/4 4 { 16[ 16 16 16] 16[ 16] 16[ 16 16 16] 16[ 16]
} 4 8. 16
voiceTwo: s4 \tuplet 3/2 4 { 8 8 8 } 4 s4
regards, hth,
sb
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From: Phil H. <ma...@ph...> - 2014-01-10 14:30:26
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Can't work out the beat structure. Are the last 2 beats regular and the first 2 beats all in triplets? i.e. voice one in the RH: triplet crochets followed by dotted quaver/semi quaver occupying a triplet crochet space? -- Phil Holmes |
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From: MING T. <ts...@ro...> - 2014-01-10 14:24:25
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I now downloaded Git-scm and doc as recommended. The Git is installed on my desktop. I will spend time to read. Emmanuel, Yming On Friday, January 10, 2014 6:58:26 AM, Urs Liska <ul...@op...> wrote: Am 10.01.2014 12:21, schrieb MING TSANG: > I just subscribe to this list. I like to participate the code challenge. > 1. I like to use lilypond notation program ( I am pretty new to lilypond - since v2.14) > 2. I am using window 7 > 3. I have no experience with Git, but would like to learn > > Emmanuel, > yming > Great, welcome! If you consider yourself a new LilyPond user I suggest you use the latest stable version 2.18 (although "since 2.14" doesn't sound like very "new" ...) I suggest you go to the official homepage and download the Windows version of Git: http://git-scm.com/download/ Then I suggest you have an initial look at the "official" book http://git-scm.com/book and see if that's appropriate for you. If the first chapter doesn't really get you into it you may try the second chapter first: http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Basics or you can come back to us and ask. Much can also be done by guiding you directly through the first steps. Best Urs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ openlilylib-user mailing list ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openlilylib-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... |
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From: Phil H. <ma...@ph...> - 2014-01-10 14:23:40
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Urs Liska" <ul...@op...> To: <ope...@li...> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [oll-user] Fw: [Challenges]: Sibelius >> >> Thanks for your patience. This is the kind of information we're trying >> to collect, I think. >> >> So if you were doing this in real life you would have applied _lots_ of >> tweaks by now, just to be able to see what you're doing, right? Right. I clicked "Layout... Optimize" and it pushed staves all over the place. It seems that its default and optimzed layouts are both, in the English vernacular, pants. > It seems the attachment was stripped by the mailing list software. > I'll look into that and have a look where the problem is. > > As a workaround I have added the file to the repository, and it can be > downloaded from > https://github.com/openlilylib/engraving-challenges/blob/phil-sib-music-entry/challenge01/Sibelius-7/phil/chopin-godowsky-sibelius-phil.pdf When I get something else worth looking at, I'll push it to my repo. -- Phil Holmes |
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2014-01-10 14:17:13
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Am 10.01.2014 15:10, schrieb MING TSANG: > I now downloaded Git-scm and doc as recommended. The Git is installed on > my desktop. I will spend time to read. > Emmanuel, > Yming > OK, that's good. Just ask if you need assistance. > > On Friday, January 10, 2014 6:58:26 AM, Urs Liska <ul...@op...> > wrote: > Am 10.01.2014 12:21, schrieb MING TSANG: > > > I just subscribe to this list. I like to participate the code challenge. > > 1. I like to use lilypond notation program ( I am pretty new to > lilypond - since v2.14) > > 2. I am using window 7 > > 3. I have no experience with Git, but would like to learn > > > > Emmanuel, > > yming > > > > > Great, welcome! > > If you consider yourself a new LilyPond user I suggest you use the > latest stable version 2.18 (although "since 2.14" doesn't sound like > very "new" ...) > > I suggest you go to the official homepage and download the Windows > version of Git: > http://git-scm.com/download/ > > Then I suggest you have an initial look at the "official" book > http://git-scm.com/book > and see if that's appropriate for you. > If the first chapter doesn't really get you into it you may try the > second chapter first: > http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Basics > > or you can come back to us and ask. Much can also be done by guiding you > directly through the first steps. > > Best > Urs > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > openlilylib-user mailing list > ope...@li... > <mailto:ope...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openlilylib-user > > > |
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2014-01-10 14:16:48
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Am 10.01.2014 15:04, schrieb Urs Liska: > Am 10.01.2014 14:48, schrieb Phil Holmes: >> Forwarding from my registered email address. >> >> -- >> Phil Holmes >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Phil Holmes" <em...@ph...> >> To: "Openlilylib" <ope...@li...> >> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 1:36 PM >> Subject: [Challenges]: Sibelius >> >> >>> It's a real pain to use for music like this. I've deliberately avoided >>> using manual spacing tweaks (with Sib, you grab and pull) but, by default, >>> it crams everything together so badly you can hardly see what you're >>> doing. >>> My plan is to continue with no tweaking whatever, and do as best I can to >>> get the notes in where I can see them, but it is genuinely a challenge. I >>> trust it's OK to attach a PDF of where I am up to bar 4. > > Thanks for this. > The PDF was attached to the original mail that I got for moderation so I > attach it here. > > Thanks for your patience. This is the kind of information we're trying > to collect, I think. > > So if you were doing this in real life you would have applied _lots_ of > tweaks by now, just to be able to see what you're doing, right? > > Urs > >>> >>> -- >>> Phil Holmes >>> It seems the attachment was stripped by the mailing list software. I'll look into that and have a look where the problem is. As a workaround I have added the file to the repository, and it can be downloaded from https://github.com/openlilylib/engraving-challenges/blob/phil-sib-music-entry/challenge01/Sibelius-7/phil/chopin-godowsky-sibelius-phil.pdf Urs |
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2014-01-10 14:05:00
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Am 10.01.2014 14:48, schrieb Phil Holmes: > Forwarding from my registered email address. > > -- > Phil Holmes > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Holmes" <em...@ph...> > To: "Openlilylib" <ope...@li...> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 1:36 PM > Subject: [Challenges]: Sibelius > > >> It's a real pain to use for music like this. I've deliberately avoided >> using manual spacing tweaks (with Sib, you grab and pull) but, by default, >> it crams everything together so badly you can hardly see what you're >> doing. >> My plan is to continue with no tweaking whatever, and do as best I can to >> get the notes in where I can see them, but it is genuinely a challenge. I >> trust it's OK to attach a PDF of where I am up to bar 4. Thanks for this. The PDF was attached to the original mail that I got for moderation so I attach it here. Thanks for your patience. This is the kind of information we're trying to collect, I think. So if you were doing this in real life you would have applied _lots_ of tweaks by now, just to be able to see what you're doing, right? Urs >> >> -- >> Phil Holmes >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: V1 - Full Score.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 26495 bytes Desc: not available |
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From: Phil H. <ma...@ph...> - 2014-01-10 13:48:20
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Forwarding from my registered email address. -- Phil Holmes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Holmes" <em...@ph...> To: "Openlilylib" <ope...@li...> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 1:36 PM Subject: [Challenges]: Sibelius > It's a real pain to use for music like this. I've deliberately avoided > using manual spacing tweaks (with Sib, you grab and pull) but, by default, > it crams everything together so badly you can hardly see what you're > doing. > My plan is to continue with no tweaking whatever, and do as best I can to > get the notes in where I can see them, but it is genuinely a challenge. I > trust it's OK to attach a PDF of where I am up to bar 4. > > -- > Phil Holmes > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: V1 - Full Score.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 26496 bytes Desc: not available |
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From: MING T. <ts...@ro...> - 2014-01-10 13:37:56
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I have been running lilypond v.2.15.x, 2.16x 2.17x and now 2.18.0. (I update each version as soon as it is announced). I installed frescobaldi 2.0.13 as soon as it was announced. I have bee using lilypond 2.18.0 since Jan 1, 2014 and 2.19.0 since Jan 8, 2014. Where do I begin to learn Git? DO I need to install any software? I was a COBOL programmer since 1975. Emmanuel, Yming. On Friday, January 10, 2014 6:58:26 AM, Urs Liska <ul...@op...> wrote: Am 10.01.2014 12:21, schrieb MING TSANG: > I just subscribe to this list. I like to participate the code challenge. > 1. I like to use lilypond notation program ( I am pretty new to lilypond - since v2.14) > 2. I am using window 7 > 3. I have no experience with Git, but would like to learn > > Emmanuel, > yming > Great, welcome! If you consider yourself a new LilyPond user I suggest you use the latest stable version 2.18 (although "since 2.14" doesn't sound like very "new" ...) I suggest you go to the official homepage and download the Windows version of Git: http://git-scm.com/download/ Then I suggest you have an initial look at the "official" book http://git-scm.com/book and see if that's appropriate for you. If the first chapter doesn't really get you into it you may try the second chapter first: http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Basics or you can come back to us and ask. Much can also be done by guiding you directly through the first steps. Best Urs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ openlilylib-user mailing list ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openlilylib-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... |
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From: Simon B. <si...@ba...> - 2014-01-10 13:32:34
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Hi Urs et. al., I'll be using 2.18.x to do this -- shall i just create a directory under git://github/openlilylib/engraving-challenges/tree/master/challenge01/LilyPond-2-18 ? The steps are as follows? 1. git metatasks 2. enter music in logical format with no prettification 3. commit (push), wait for review that music text is correct 4. make pretty 5. commit (push), bask in adoration of/run from ridicule by peers? ;) i think i've come up with a nice (read: fairly easy) solution to the conjoined sextuplets in the left hand. :) regards, sb -- Do not meddle in the affairs of trombonists, for they are subtle and quick to anger. |
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2014-01-10 13:10:04
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Am 10.01.2014 14:02, schrieb Phil Holmes: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Urs Liska" <ul...@op...> > To: "Phil Holmes" <ma...@ph...>; > <ope...@li...> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [oll-user] [Challenges] Engraving challenge > > >> Am 10.01.2014 13:34, schrieb Phil Holmes: >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Urs Liska" <ul...@op...> >>> To: <ope...@li...> >>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:21 AM >>> Subject: Re: [oll-user] [Challenges] Engraving challenge >>> >>> >>>> Am 10.01.2014 11:33, schrieb Phil Holmes: >>>>> >>>>> The other issue is that this is clearly an odd piece of music - the >>>>> beaming >>>>> patterns are very atypical, and any music typesetting program with >>>>> require >>>>> substantial hacking to set this. >>>> >>>> This is intentional - I would like to see how each program performs >>>> with >>>> extreme tasks. >>>> But we can discuss if this really is a good idea for a first challenge. >>>> I'd like to hear more opinions on this. >>> >>> OK. >>> >>>>> Some of the crossing notes are not really >>>>> all that easy to read - see the 2nd beat of bar 3, for example. >>>> >>>> I don't really understand what you mean. Please narrow it down some >>>> more. >>> >>> On the 2nd beat of bar 3, a dotted quaver c in the treble stave crosses >>> to a semi-quaver a (?) in the bass clef, colliding with the beam for the >>> LH. I'm not convinced it's easy to read that. >> >> the dotted quaver c' crosses to the c' in the bass clef. >> But I still don't quite understand why this is objectionable. It's not >> easy to read that, but it's the logical notation in that context. And >> it's not ambiguous. It's not even ambiguous compared to the >> corresponding points in the next bar where the melody is in triplets. > > It's objectionable because the stem goes clean through the beam (without > being even visible in the beam). It would be clearer and better looking > to leave it in the treble stave. > OK, I see now what you mean. Two aspects: a) It _has_ to be in the lower stave because it's to be played with the left hand. b) Looking thorugh the score it seems the engraver treated this aspect inconsistently, sometimes there are stems between the beams, sometimes not. I think this is a case that can be neglected. The intention is *not* to replicate the original as closely as possible, but to engrave the music as good as possible. Urs > FWIW, also check out the first 4 notes in the LH in bar 3. No stems in > the beams. > > -- > Phil Holmes -- Urs Liska www.openlilylib.org |
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From: Phil H. <ma...@ph...> - 2014-01-10 13:02:43
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Urs Liska" <ul...@op...> To: "Phil Holmes" <ma...@ph...>; <ope...@li...> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [oll-user] [Challenges] Engraving challenge > Am 10.01.2014 13:34, schrieb Phil Holmes: >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Urs Liska" <ul...@op...> >> To: <ope...@li...> >> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:21 AM >> Subject: Re: [oll-user] [Challenges] Engraving challenge >> >> >>> Am 10.01.2014 11:33, schrieb Phil Holmes: >>>> >>>> The other issue is that this is clearly an odd piece of music - the >>>> beaming >>>> patterns are very atypical, and any music typesetting program with >>>> require >>>> substantial hacking to set this. >>> >>> This is intentional - I would like to see how each program performs with >>> extreme tasks. >>> But we can discuss if this really is a good idea for a first challenge. >>> I'd like to hear more opinions on this. >> >> OK. >> >>>> Some of the crossing notes are not really >>>> all that easy to read - see the 2nd beat of bar 3, for example. >>> >>> I don't really understand what you mean. Please narrow it down some >>> more. >> >> On the 2nd beat of bar 3, a dotted quaver c in the treble stave crosses >> to a semi-quaver a (?) in the bass clef, colliding with the beam for the >> LH. I'm not convinced it's easy to read that. > > the dotted quaver c' crosses to the c' in the bass clef. > But I still don't quite understand why this is objectionable. It's not > easy to read that, but it's the logical notation in that context. And it's > not ambiguous. It's not even ambiguous compared to the corresponding > points in the next bar where the melody is in triplets. It's objectionable because the stem goes clean through the beam (without being even visible in the beam). It would be clearer and better looking to leave it in the treble stave. FWIW, also check out the first 4 notes in the LH in bar 3. No stems in the beams. -- Phil Holmes |
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2014-01-10 12:39:36
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Am 10.01.2014 13:34, schrieb Phil Holmes: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Urs Liska" <ul...@op...> > To: <ope...@li...> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:21 AM > Subject: Re: [oll-user] [Challenges] Engraving challenge > > >> Am 10.01.2014 11:33, schrieb Phil Holmes: >>> >>> The other issue is that this is clearly an odd piece of music - the >>> beaming >>> patterns are very atypical, and any music typesetting program with >>> require >>> substantial hacking to set this. >> >> This is intentional - I would like to see how each program performs with >> extreme tasks. >> But we can discuss if this really is a good idea for a first challenge. >> I'd like to hear more opinions on this. > > OK. > >>> Some of the crossing notes are not really >>> all that easy to read - see the 2nd beat of bar 3, for example. >> >> I don't really understand what you mean. Please narrow it down some more. > > On the 2nd beat of bar 3, a dotted quaver c in the treble stave crosses > to a semi-quaver a (?) in the bass clef, colliding with the beam for the > LH. I'm not convinced it's easy to read that. the dotted quaver c' crosses to the c' in the bass clef. But I still don't quite understand why this is objectionable. It's not easy to read that, but it's the logical notation in that context. And it's not ambiguous. It's not even ambiguous compared to the corresponding points in the next bar where the melody is in triplets. Best Urs > > -- > Phil Holmes -- Urs Liska www.openlilylib.org |
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From: Phil H. <ma...@ph...> - 2014-01-10 12:34:17
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Urs Liska" <ul...@op...> To: <ope...@li...> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [oll-user] [Challenges] Engraving challenge > Am 10.01.2014 11:33, schrieb Phil Holmes: >> >> The other issue is that this is clearly an odd piece of music - the >> beaming >> patterns are very atypical, and any music typesetting program with >> require >> substantial hacking to set this. > > This is intentional - I would like to see how each program performs with > extreme tasks. > But we can discuss if this really is a good idea for a first challenge. > I'd like to hear more opinions on this. OK. >> Some of the crossing notes are not really >> all that easy to read - see the 2nd beat of bar 3, for example. > > I don't really understand what you mean. Please narrow it down some more. On the 2nd beat of bar 3, a dotted quaver c in the treble stave crosses to a semi-quaver a (?) in the bass clef, colliding with the beam for the LH. I'm not convinced it's easy to read that. -- Phil Holmes |
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2014-01-10 11:58:22
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Am 10.01.2014 12:21, schrieb MING TSANG: > I just subscribe to this list. I like to participate the code challenge. > 1. I like to use lilypond notation program ( I am pretty new to lilypond - since v2.14) > 2. I am using window 7 > 3. I have no experience with Git, but would like to learn > > Emmanuel, > yming > Great, welcome! If you consider yourself a new LilyPond user I suggest you use the latest stable version 2.18 (although "since 2.14" doesn't sound like very "new" ...) I suggest you go to the official homepage and download the Windows version of Git: http://git-scm.com/download/ Then I suggest you have an initial look at the "official" book http://git-scm.com/book and see if that's appropriate for you. If the first chapter doesn't really get you into it you may try the second chapter first: http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Basics or you can come back to us and ask. Much can also be done by guiding you directly through the first steps. Best Urs |
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From: MING T. <ts...@ro...> - 2014-01-10 11:35:34
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I just subscribe to this list. I like to participate the code challenge. 1. I like to use lilypond notation program ( I am pretty new to lilypond - since v2.14) 2. I am using window 7 3. I have no experience with Git, but would like to learn Emmanuel, yming - which notation program you would like to use - which operating system you're on and - whether you have experience with Git or not. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... |
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2014-01-10 11:24:40
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Am 10.01.2014 11:33, schrieb Phil Holmes: > I've started to look at the engraving challenge, and one thing that I think > makes this not the best challenge: it looks like it's just a page from a > piece, rather than the piece itself. As a result, there's no title > information, etc., and not even a time signature. I presume it's 4/4 and > will use this, but without messing around that will put one extraneous > element on the output from Sibelius: i.e. a time signature. You're right, it's only one page, because a whole piece would definitely be too much. With regards to the titles I could simply add the titling from the first page and include that in the assignment. (Yes, I think the handling of titles etc. is also an interesting part). > > The other issue is that this is clearly an odd piece of music - the beaming > patterns are very atypical, and any music typesetting program with require > substantial hacking to set this. This is intentional - I would like to see how each program performs with extreme tasks. But we can discuss if this really is a good idea for a first challenge. I'd like to hear more opinions on this. > Some of the crossing notes are not really > all that easy to read - see the 2nd beat of bar 3, for example. I don't really understand what you mean. Please narrow it down some more. > And I > assume there's lots of unmarked triplets all over the place? Yes, but that's pretty standard in this kind of music IMO. > Would it not > be better to start with a piece that follows the recommendations of the > typesetting manuals? As said, I'd like to have more opinions. But in any case this is only an issue for the strange beaming, everything else seems appropriate for the task in my eyes. Urs PS: Please prefix messages with [Challenges] > > -- > Phil Holmes > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > openlilylib-user mailing list > ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openlilylib-user > -- Urs Liska www.openlilylib.org |
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From: Phil H. <ma...@ph...> - 2014-01-10 10:54:38
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I've started to look at the engraving challenge, and one thing that I think makes this not the best challenge: it looks like it's just a page from a piece, rather than the piece itself. As a result, there's no title information, etc., and not even a time signature. I presume it's 4/4 and will use this, but without messing around that will put one extraneous element on the output from Sibelius: i.e. a time signature. The other issue is that this is clearly an odd piece of music - the beaming patterns are very atypical, and any music typesetting program with require substantial hacking to set this. Some of the crossing notes are not really all that easy to read - see the 2nd beat of bar 3, for example. And I assume there's lots of unmarked triplets all over the place? Would it not be better to start with a piece that follows the recommendations of the typesetting manuals? -- Phil Holmes |
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2014-01-10 08:54:51
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Hi all, I've subscribed all people who have expressed interest in participating in the openLilyLib Engraving Challenges, and this is the official Welcome Post :-) I've set up the first challenge, and you can have a look at https://github.com/openlilylib/engraving-challenges/tree/master/challenge01 The general guide for approaching a given assignment can be found at https://github.com/openlilylib/engraving-challenges/blob/master/meta/general-rules.md And the entry page is https://github.com/openlilylib/engraving-challenges I have set up subdirectories below challenge01 for each program I saw. If you are missing anything please tell me. If you find anything unclear about any aspect please write a new message to this list, prefixed with [Challenges]. This is the first try, and not everything has been ironed out so far. Particularly I suggest that everybody starts with the first step, analyzing the task, and we discuss it before actually doing any work. Everybody should - have a Github account - fork the repository - clone the fork - add the original repository as an "upstream" remote If anything of the above is unclear because you haven't worked with Git so far we'll sort it out or look for alternative ways. Best wishes - and: have fun Urs -- Urs Liska www.openlilylib.org |
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From: Janek W. <lem...@gm...> - 2013-09-13 17:03:36
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2013/9/13 Janek Warchoł <lem...@gm...> > > 2013/9/13 Urs Liska <ul...@op...> > >> b) >> You asked for being able to used styled HTML inside Markdown. >> And this is still open? >> > > yes. > Reply from GitHub: 2013/9/13 Petros Amiridis <su...@gi...>: > Hi Janek, > >> What about broken(?) display of HTML formatting in Markdown files? > > Fully featured HTML code can't survive our sanitizing filters. You can have some HTML in a markdown file, but some tags will not work. For example your <span> tags will all get stripped, but a <strong> tag can survive. So Pygment seems to be our only hope. Janek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... |
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From: Janek W. <lem...@gm...> - 2013-09-13 16:26:55
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2013-09-13 16:13:19
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Am 13.09.2013 18:03, schrieb Janek Warchoł: > 2013/9/13 Urs Liska <ul...@op... <mailto:ul...@op...>> > > Am 13.09.2013 17:12, schrieb Janek Warchoł: >> >> 2013/9/13 Janek Warchoł <lem...@gm... >> <mailto:lem...@gm...>> >> >> 2013/9/13 Urs Liska <ul...@op... >> <mailto:ul...@op...>> >> >> Am 13.09.2013 01:20, schrieb Janek Warchoł: >> >>> Actually, we may be able to provide syntax highligting: >>> as far as i know, you can insert HTML into markdown, so >>> we could use your html-export from Frescobaldi to >>> produce html code and paste it into the .md file! >>> ...for some reason this doesn't work as expected. I've >>> added a markdown file containing html code generated >>> using your Frescobaldi export, and it isn't coloredd. I >>> think that Github isn't respecting some aspect of html >>> formatting, maybe that's a bug. >>> See my attempt here: >>> https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/blob/markdown-test/notation-snippets/scaling-stencils.md >> >> As you noticed, I had tried the same before ;-) >> Having written to Github is a good idea. Although I don't >> think it's a bug but rather an omission. Maybe even on >> purpose, e.g. for security reasons. >> >> >> As for now i was told to report this to pygments: >> http://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/pygments-main/issues >> >> >> https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/pygments-main/issue/904/lilypond-support > > Does that mean GitHub doesn't support formatted HTML code inside > markdown? > Because what pygments does is something completely different, > isn't it (although some generic highlighting using a widely used > library like pygments would be a good thing in its own right). > > > Sorry, i've indeed mixed two things. > When i talked with GitHub support about syntax highlighting in > general, and the possibility of GitHub highlighting Lily sources > automatically (i.e. when *.ly files are viewed on github website), i > was advised to add an issue to Pygments. And so i did. > >> I've also asked Github about broken HTML colors in markdown display. > What are you refering to with that? > > > To your previous paragraph :) I.e. apart from asking Pygments to > support LilyPond, i've asked Github what's up with Github's support > for formatted HTML code inside markdown. So do I see correctly? a) You asked for displaying .ly files and were forwarded to pygments. This should be doable, but it looks quite crowded there, 51 open pull requests alone ... b) You asked for being able to used styled HTML inside Markdown. And this is still open? Or did they point you to pygments too with that question? Urs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... |
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From: Janek W. <lem...@gm...> - 2013-09-13 16:03:44
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2013/9/13 Urs Liska <ul...@op...> > Am 13.09.2013 17:12, schrieb Janek Warchoł: > > > 2013/9/13 Janek Warchoł <lem...@gm...> > >> 2013/9/13 Urs Liska <ul...@op...> >> >>> Am 13.09.2013 01:20, schrieb Janek Warchoł: >>> >> Actually, we may be able to provide syntax highligting: as far >>> as i know, you can insert HTML into markdown, so we could use your >>> html-export from Frescobaldi to produce html code and paste it into the .md >>> file! >>> ...for some reason this doesn't work as expected. I've added a markdown >>> file containing html code generated using your Frescobaldi export, and it >>> isn't coloredd. I think that Github isn't respecting some aspect of html >>> formatting, maybe that's a bug. >>> See my attempt here: >>> >>> https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/blob/markdown-test/notation-snippets/scaling-stencils.md >>> >>> >>> As you noticed, I had tried the same before ;-) >>> Having written to Github is a good idea. Although I don't think it's a >>> bug but rather an omission. Maybe even on purpose, e.g. for security >>> reasons. >>> >> >> As for now i was told to report this to pygments: >> http://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/pygments-main/issues >> > > https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/pygments-main/issue/904/lilypond-support > > > Does that mean GitHub doesn't support formatted HTML code inside markdown? > Because what pygments does is something completely different, isn't it > (although some generic highlighting using a widely used library like > pygments would be a good thing in its own right). > Sorry, i've indeed mixed two things. When i talked with GitHub support about syntax highlighting in general, and the possibility of GitHub highlighting Lily sources automatically (i.e. when *.ly files are viewed on github website), i was advised to add an issue to Pygments. And so i did. > I've also asked Github about broken HTML colors in markdown display. > > What are you refering to with that? > To your previous paragraph :) I.e. apart from asking Pygments to support LilyPond, i've asked Github what's up with Github's support for formatted HTML code inside markdown. best, Janek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... |
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From: Urs L. <ul...@op...> - 2013-09-13 15:41:02
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Am 13.09.2013 17:12, schrieb Janek Warchoł: > > > > 2013/9/13 Janek Warchoł <lem...@gm... > <mailto:lem...@gm...>> > > 2013/9/13 Urs Liska <ul...@op... <mailto:ul...@op...>> > > Am 13.09.2013 01:20, schrieb Janek Warchoł: > >> Actually, we may be able to provide syntax highligting: as >> far as i know, you can insert HTML into markdown, so we could >> use your html-export from Frescobaldi to produce html code >> and paste it into the .md file! >> ...for some reason this doesn't work as expected. I've added >> a markdown file containing html code generated using your >> Frescobaldi export, and it isn't coloredd. I think that >> Github isn't respecting some aspect of html formatting, maybe >> that's a bug. >> See my attempt here: >> https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/blob/markdown-test/notation-snippets/scaling-stencils.md > > As you noticed, I had tried the same before ;-) > Having written to Github is a good idea. Although I don't > think it's a bug but rather an omission. Maybe even on > purpose, e.g. for security reasons. > > > As for now i was told to report this to pygments: > http://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/pygments-main/issues > > > https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/pygments-main/issue/904/lilypond-support Does that mean GitHub doesn't support formatted HTML code inside markdown? Because what pygments does is something completely different, isn't it (although some generic highlighting using a widely used library like pygments would be a good thing in its own right). > I've also asked Github about broken HTML colors in markdown display. What are you refering to with that? Urs > > best, > Janek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... |
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From: Janek W. <lem...@gm...> - 2013-09-13 15:13:19
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2013/9/13 Janek Warchoł <lem...@gm...> > 2013/9/13 Urs Liska <ul...@op...> > >> Am 13.09.2013 01:20, schrieb Janek Warchoł: >> > Actually, we may be able to provide syntax highligting: as far as i >> know, you can insert HTML into markdown, so we could use your html-export >> from Frescobaldi to produce html code and paste it into the .md file! >> ...for some reason this doesn't work as expected. I've added a markdown >> file containing html code generated using your Frescobaldi export, and it >> isn't coloredd. I think that Github isn't respecting some aspect of html >> formatting, maybe that's a bug. >> See my attempt here: >> >> https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/blob/markdown-test/notation-snippets/scaling-stencils.md >> >> >> As you noticed, I had tried the same before ;-) >> Having written to Github is a good idea. Although I don't think it's a >> bug but rather an omission. Maybe even on purpose, e.g. for security >> reasons. >> > > As for now i was told to report this to pygments: > http://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/pygments-main/issues > https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/pygments-main/issue/904/lilypond-support I've also asked Github about broken HTML colors in markdown display. best, Janek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... |
