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From: Andreas R. <and...@st...> - 2002-07-13 17:20:44
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JBilderback wrote: > I vote to not have HTML copies of plain text msgs sent to the list. Hmm, I guess that HTML is not filtered and cleaned up here which is bad because there are a lot of people that send HTML-mails without even knowing. We could use a filter that either makes mails beginning with <HTML> bounce, or reduces them to plain text. I'll send a mail about it to Sourceforge admin - it should not be hard for them to implement... if they have time... > I have mixed feelings about attatchments ... are there no other alternatives? Sorry about the big file... I looked everywhere on SF to find a place to unload it. Yahoo has 20 megs of space for files but SF only offers space for the project itself (homepage, source code etc). They used to have a "multimedia-file" section, but I could not find it now. I guess we have a problem or two ... Suggestions? > It appears the post office will fly a pound from US to most of europe > for under $10. I suppose I'd be willing to trans ship if that sort > of thing proved useful and a substantial savings. Thats very kind of you. Hopefully we will never have to do it that way. Europeans must be able to find everything in Europe, americans in the US, etc. The PCB's from Olimex in Bulgaria are shipped worldwide for about $8, so they pose no problem. /Andreas |
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From: Jim P. <ji...@ua...> - 2002-07-13 18:03:37
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Andreas Robinson wrote:
> > I vote to not have HTML copies of plain text msgs sent to the list.
>
> Hmm, I guess that HTML is not filtered and cleaned up here which is
> bad because there are a lot of people that send HTML-mails without
> even knowing. We could use a filter that either makes mails
> beginning with <HTML> bounce, or reduces them to plain text. I'll
> send a mail about it to Sourceforge admin - it should not be hard
> for them to implement... if they have time...
I think the problem is that many E-mailers send multipart/alternative
sections by default -- i.e. two sections, plain-text and HTML. My
mail-client (mutt) ignores the HTML alternative, but I guess some
mail-clients don't, and display both. Really it is up to the original
sender to turn off the HTML alternative (or the recipient to use a
client that understands multipart/alternative). I don't think that
Yahoo is any better -- I managed to find several messages on the old
list with exactly the same problem.
Just one thought -- SourceForge now once again lets you turn on
Reply-To headers in the Admin section (I've just turned them back on
for my SBaGen list). This subject generates some (heated) debate, but
I personally prefer the Yahoo-like default of having them turned on
for a closed list.
For lists that are open to non-subscribers and get a lot of
cross-posted discussions, it makes less sense. But perhaps it would
be good to turn them on for this list ? This means that the list adds
a Reply-To field containing the list address to each message, so that
people hitting 'reply' have their reply sent back to the list by
default. (Otherwise they have to always use 'reply-to-all').
Personally, I can live with either option if you want to use
SourceForge's default --
Jim
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From: Dave F. <df...@po...> - 2002-07-13 18:19:04
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On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:03:43 +0100, Jim Peters wrote: >For lists that are open to non-subscribers and get a lot of >cross-posted discussions, it makes less sense. But perhaps it would >be good to turn them on for this list ? This means that the list adds >a Reply-To field containing the list address to each message, so that >people hitting 'reply' have their reply sent back to the list by >default. (Otherwise they have to always use 'reply-to-all'). I would rather a Reply-To also, as I know that I am going to mess up and send mail directly to the writer, as I ironically almost did with this post! I will now have to go up and change the "To:" field because I forgot to "Reply to All." Oh, and my crossposted messages bounced back from Yahoo, so I see progress is being made to get things moved over to here, the sourceforge list. :) Dave. |
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From: Timothy S. N. <wa...@sm...> - 2002-07-19 14:09:52
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On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Jim Peters wrote: > Andreas Robinson wrote: > > > I vote to not have HTML copies of plain text msgs sent to the list. > > > > Hmm, I guess that HTML is not filtered and cleaned up here which is > > bad because there are a lot of people that send HTML-mails without > > even knowing. We could use a filter that either makes mails > > beginning with <HTML> bounce, or reduces them to plain text. I'll > > send a mail about it to Sourceforge admin - it should not be hard > > for them to implement... if they have time... > > I think the problem is that many E-mailers send multipart/alternative > sections by default -- i.e. two sections, plain-text and HTML. My > mail-client (mutt) ignores the HTML alternative, but I guess some > mail-clients don't, and display both. Really it is up to the original > sender to turn off the HTML alternative (or the recipient to use a > client that understands multipart/alternative). I don't think that > Yahoo is any better -- I managed to find several messages on the old > list with exactly the same problem. I figure there must be some way to filter them, because I'm sure other sourceforge types would want it, so I vote we see if we can get them to turn it off. Of course, I use pine which auto-converts anyway, so I don't mind either way :). > Just one thought -- SourceForge now once again lets you turn on > Reply-To headers in the Admin section (I've just turned them back on > for my SBaGen list). This subject generates some (heated) debate, but > I personally prefer the Yahoo-like default of having them turned on > for a closed list. I like the way pine asks me "Do you want to reply to the 'Reply-To' address, or the 'From' address?" :). That makes it a lot harder to mess up. :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Name: Tim Nelson | Because the Creator is, | | E-mail: wa...@sm... | I am | --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK---- Version 3.1 GCS d? s: a-- C++>++++$ US+ P++ L++ E- W+++ N+ w+> M-- V- Y+>++ PGP->++ R(+) !tv B++ DI++++ D+ G e>++ h!/* y- -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- |
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