Re: [Openeeg-list] Trying to do some research on the effects of biofeedback

[Jeremy V. <je...@jv...>]

That makes sense to me. It seems that excessive high frequencies in the right pfc correlate to sympathetic amygdala activity. And increasing low frequencies seems to be a very effective way of energy redistribution in a way that increases hpa regulation. Just inhibiting hf doesn’t necessarily direct the energy to the circuit of inhibition.
It seems to me like high frequencies are the tip of the ice berg, whereas low frequencies steer the ship.



On Apr 3, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Peter Little <pet...@gm...> wrote:


As a neurofeedback provider and someone who has spent a few years pretty interested in the expanse of the field, I would say that Jens' broad description of the branches of the field is accurate, that they all seem to have some efficacy, but in my own experience and those of many others in the field, moving into lower frequencies (in the slow cortical potential or infralow frequency realm) and away from training to a statistical average seems to be generally much more efficacious and powerful (though does require a trained provider guiding the process since it can move so quickly). This is in no way to denigrate the other approaches, which I do believe may have their own specific advantages.
For those interested in the symptom based, low frequency approach, Id strongly recommend looking into the Othmers and their work.
eeginfo.com<http://eeginfo.com>
is a good place to start

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 1:59 AM Jens Körner <jn...@gm...<mailto:jn...@gm...>> wrote:
Hi Laura,

my experience with neurofeedback is mainly as a patient of severe
early childhood brain trauma.

In my opinion the main source of confusion in the field originates in
a lack of differentiation:

Broadly speaking, there are two very different kinds of
neurofeedbacktrainig: 1. The generalized way: trainig each
participant's brain to match a statistical average. That's done by
most providers. It's a little bit scalable and sometimes has some
useful effect.
2. The individualized approach (Sebern Fisher, Jim Hardt): totally
unscalable; therefore expensive; with allegedly spectacular results.

Perhaps this is of some use to you.
Regards
Jens



2021-04-03 10:03 GMT+02:00, Stefan Jung <bio...@gm...<mailto:bio...@gm...>>:
> Hi Laura
>
> This site is DEAD.  It feels like a lifetime ago that I last posted here
>
> Firstly, I think you should speak / search Neurofeedback (NFB) rather than
> biofeedback.
>
> If someone tells me he is interested in biofeedback I think about:
>
> - Hand temperature biofeedback to reduce migraines
> - GSR / SCL skin resistance biofeedback for meditation, hypertension, etc
> - HRV (Heart Rate Variance),  for similar uses as SCL
> -  etc.
>
> Here are three group recommendations:
>
> Brain-trainer
> brain-trainer.com<http://brain-trainer.com>  run by Peter van Deusen.  Peter used to be a hospital
> administrator (I think), many years ago in the US.  I think the man must
> have at least 20 years of NFB experience by now.  Very helpful and
> knowledgeable.  For the last few years he has been operating from
> Brazil.  He has a very active community and a forum where they discuss
> various NFB applications, etc.
>
> OpenBCI
> https://openbci.com/
> Their main goal is to use BCI ( Brain Computer Interfacing) for command and
> control.  For instance, a handycaped person that can control a wheelchair
> or computer with a BCI interface.
>
> OpenVIBE
> http://openvibe.inria.fr/
> A research organisation based in France
> They seem to concentrate on the software layer running on various BCI
> equipment.  Not sure how active they are these days.
>
> Regards
> Stefan
>


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