Re: [Openclips-development] Re: OpenCLIPS

[Tim C. <tw...@sh...>]

On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 09:25, ths...@po... wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 07:27:05 -0700 Tim Cook wrote:
> > The OpenCLIPS project has been approved on SourceForge.  The relevant
> > links are below.
> About time :-) I've been getting sick of seeing "Invalid Project".

It was strange. They asked me to redo the technical description and I
had wanted to wait until we discussed it further before settling on a
license. But when I chose one and drafted a new description they were
happy.  It took so long because I have been traveling and hadn't checked
on it lately.

> > Thomas Sutton will be uploading the base source code that we will be
> > starting from.  
> Done. It is in the openclips module under the projects cvsroot.

Excellent.  Thank You!

> The CLIPS source (version 6.22) is up with the test cases distributed on
> the ghg.net site (though they don't have a "real" testing framework
> written yet). There are also some examples, also from somewhere on
> ghg.net. The test cases and examples I have included presuming that they
> are provided under the same conditions as CLIPS itself but I haven't checked.

The status of the test cases must be determined.  I'll try to find out
more tonight.

> At the moment, the LICENCE document in CVS is a BSD-like licence (the
> FreeBSD copyright notice s/FreeBSD/OpenCLIPS/) so I changed the projects
> licence in the sf.net catagorisation, we can change it back later if
> needed, but I'd prefer to keep OpenCLIPS as free as possible, in line
> with the original CLIPS release into the public domain.

My Issues!<g> 
There have been NUMEROUS commercial implementations using Clips as a
base.  How many have contributed back to the core project?  Not many as
far as I can find.  THat is my reason for leaning towards the GPL.

That said......I want to be able to grow a vibrant community.  If the
general thoughts are that the GPL will restrict the size of the
development community then I think I need to reconsider a BSD or is it
appropriate to use the LGPL?  

> There is also a brief TODO in CVS with a number of administrivia and some 
> preliminary cleanup work that we'll need to do. It should really be
> expanded into a roadmap of some description. I think it would be wise to
> have a rough sketch of the future directions and a first release out
> before announcing the project widely (e.g. on the CLIPS mailing lists).

Ok. I hope Glen has some time to take this on now.  He had told me
before that he would try to take the lead project management so that the
others could do most of the development.  I do expect he will have a
hand in coding as well.  Glen, what is your current situation?

Cheers,
Tim