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[Openbts-discuss] Where I could buy Test SIM Card?

[Andjas W. A. <and...@gm...>]

Dear All,

 

 

I'm working on project that utilize OpenBTS as data pipe for a PoC (prove of
concept). I will try it on GPRS then ultimately on 3G-UMTS.

I was able to config my OpenBTS in which enable two android mobile phone
communicate each other via SMS. I was using my spare (operator) SIM Cards,
MCC/MNC: 510/10 and 510/01.

However, according ebook "Getting Started With OpenBTS", APN setting on
Android based smartphone could not be done. I have tried and resulting same
as describe on it.

 

Furthermore, 3G-UMTS OpenBTS need SIM Card with known 'Ki' value.

 

So, my first question is what kind of SIM Card that I need to working on
GPRS & 3G-UMTS OpenBTS? Is Test SIM Card the answer for my problem?

 

Secondly, would you kindly tell me where could I buy them? I have google &
search them in Amazon/Ebay, but  no "Test SIM Card" come out.

 

 

Warmth regards,

Andjas

 

Re: [Openbts-discuss] Where I could buy Test SIM Card?

[Arthur R. <art...@gm...>]

Hi,

You can get them from Sysmocom, I believe they are pretty popular around
here.
http://shop.sysmocom.de/

There are other sources but I cannot vouch for those: Supersim, magicsim
etc.

The Sysmocom cards work, I used them succesfully (except a black sheep in
my batch which won't get programmed).

Beware, it can take up to a month and a half to deliver them though.

Regards,

Arthur

Le Mon Feb 02 2015 at 15:19:36, Andjas Wahyu Ardiansyah <
and...@gm...> a écrit :

> Dear All,
>
>
>
>
>
> I’m working on project that utilize OpenBTS as data pipe for a PoC (prove
> of concept). I will try it on GPRS then ultimately on 3G-UMTS.
>
> I was able to config my OpenBTS in which enable two android mobile phone
> communicate each other via SMS. I was using my spare (operator) SIM Cards,
> MCC/MNC: 510/10 and 510/01.
>
> However, according ebook “Getting Started With OpenBTS”, APN setting on
> Android based smartphone could not be done. I have tried and resulting same
> as describe on it.
>
>
>
> Furthermore, 3G-UMTS OpenBTS need SIM Card with known ‘Ki’ value.
>
>
>
> So, my first question is what kind of SIM Card that I need to working on
> GPRS & 3G-UMTS OpenBTS? Is Test SIM Card the answer for my problem?
>
>
>
> Secondly, would you kindly tell me where could I buy them? I have google &
> search them in Amazon/Ebay, but  no “Test SIM Card” come out.
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmth regards,
>
> Andjas
>
>
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Re: [Openbts-discuss] Where I could buy Test SIM Card?

[Andjas W. A. <and...@gm...>]

Thanks for the info Arthur,

But I need it ASAP.

Seems, I need to find other solution such as lend.

 

BR,

andjas

 

From: Arthur Rabaté [mailto:art...@gm...] 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 9:32 PM
To: Andjas Wahyu Ardiansyah; OpenBTS Discuss
Subject: Re: [Openbts-discuss] Where I could buy Test SIM Card?

 

Hi,

You can get them from Sysmocom, I believe they are pretty popular around here.

http://shop.sysmocom.de/

 

There are other sources but I cannot vouch for those: Supersim, magicsim etc.

 

The Sysmocom cards work, I used them succesfully (except a black sheep in my batch which won't get programmed).

 

Beware, it can take up to a month and a half to deliver them though.

 

Regards,


Arthur

 

Le Mon Feb 02 2015 at 15:19:36, Andjas Wahyu Ardiansyah <and...@gm... <mailto:and...@gm...> > a écrit :

Dear All,

 

 

I’m working on project that utilize OpenBTS as data pipe for a PoC (prove of concept). I will try it on GPRS then ultimately on 3G-UMTS.

I was able to config my OpenBTS in which enable two android mobile phone communicate each other via SMS. I was using my spare (operator) SIM Cards, MCC/MNC: 510/10 and 510/01.

However, according ebook “Getting Started With OpenBTS”, APN setting on Android based smartphone could not be done. I have tried and resulting same as describe on it.

 

Furthermore, 3G-UMTS OpenBTS need SIM Card with known ‘Ki’ value.

 

So, my first question is what kind of SIM Card that I need to working on GPRS & 3G-UMTS OpenBTS? Is Test SIM Card the answer for my problem?

 

Secondly, would you kindly tell me where could I buy them? I have google & search them in Amazon/Ebay, but  no “Test SIM Card” come out.

 

 

Warmth regards,

Andjas

 

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Re: [Openbts-discuss] Where I could buy Test SIM Card?

[Alexander K. <ale...@gm...>]

Hi

I bought my sim cards from china over aliexpress, from this company: 
http://www.grcard.cn/

It took about a week with money transfer and transport to Norway.

I paid about 1€ per card, but i haven't had time to test it fully yet, 
the programming of the card works fine, but i haven't managed to get 
openbts to register the phone with encryption yet. It was what I think 
is called second generation cards, not u-sim cards.

I can't really recommend them, as i haven't gotten the whole chain to 
work yet, but i haven't seen any obvious reason to why it shouldn't work 
either.

best regards
Alexander Kjäll

On 03. feb. 2015 14:41, Andjas Wahyu Ardiansyah wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Arthur,
>
> But I need it ASAP.
>
> Seems, I need to find other solution such as lend.
>
> BR,
>
> andjas
>
> *From:*Arthur Rabaté [mailto:art...@gm...]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 9:32 PM
> *To:* Andjas Wahyu Ardiansyah; OpenBTS Discuss
> *Subject:* Re: [Openbts-discuss] Where I could buy Test SIM Card?
>
> Hi,
>
> You can get them from Sysmocom, I believe they are pretty popular 
> around here.
>
> http://shop.sysmocom.de/
>
> There are other sources but I cannot vouch for those: Supersim, 
> magicsim etc.
>
> The Sysmocom cards work, I used them succesfully (except a black sheep 
> in my batch which won't get programmed).
>
> Beware, it can take up to a month and a half to deliver them though.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Arthur
>
> Le Mon Feb 02 2015 at 15:19:36, Andjas Wahyu Ardiansyah 
> <and...@gm... <mailto:and...@gm...>> a écrit :
>
>     Dear All,
>
>     I’m working on project that utilize OpenBTS as data pipe for a PoC
>     (prove of concept). I will try it on GPRS then ultimately on 3G-UMTS.
>
>     I was able to config my OpenBTS in which enable two android mobile
>     phone communicate each other via SMS. I was using my spare
>     (operator) SIM Cards, MCC/MNC: 510/10 and 510/01.
>
>     However, according ebook “Getting Started With OpenBTS”, APN
>     setting on Android based smartphone could not be done. I have
>     tried and resulting same as describe on it.
>
>     Furthermore, 3G-UMTS OpenBTS need SIM Card with known ‘Ki’ value.
>
>     So, my first question is what kind of SIM Card that I need to
>     working on GPRS & 3G-UMTS OpenBTS? Is Test SIM Card the answer for
>     my problem?
>
>     Secondly, would you kindly tell me where could I buy them? I have
>     google & search them in Amazon/Ebay, but  no “Test SIM Card” come out.
>
>     Warmth regards,
>
>     Andjas
>
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Re: [Openbts-discuss] Where I could buy Test SIM Card?

[Tom T. <to...@ts...>]

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Andjas Wahyu Ardiansyah
<and...@gm...> wrote:
> So, my first question is what kind of SIM Card that I need to working on
> GPRS & 3G-UMTS OpenBTS? Is Test SIM Card the answer for my problem?
>
> Secondly, would you kindly tell me where could I buy them? I have google &
> search them in Amazon/Ebay, but  no “Test SIM Card” come out.

I don't suggest using 'Test SIM's' for OpenBTS right now; re-writable
2G SIM's will be the most compatible. Note that these suggestions may
change if Milenage/XOR support is added.

Most 'Test SIMs' currently on the market are for 3G/4G testing with
the 'dummy' XOR algorithm, which is different from both the Milenage
algorithm used in deployed 3G/4G networks and basic GSM A3/A8
authentication.

For OpenBTS (GSM _and_ UMTS), you want to use 2G cards because the
current implementation supports only A3/A8/comp128. That includes
OpenBTS-UMTS, which uses 2G fallback mode on the older cards.

Also, to make things more complicated, many people are interested in
LTE usage with OpenLTE, Amarisoft, OpenAirInterfaces, and other 4G
projects. These projects will require USIMs _with_ Milenage or XOR
support. So people planning on using OpenBTS and other LTE projects
will likely require different sets of SIMs.

There are probably exceptions to the above notes, but that has been my
experience with various writable SIMs (sysmoSIM, SuperSIM) and test
USIMs (Anritsu, Agilent, R&S).

  -TT

Re: [Openbts-discuss] Where I could buy Test SIM Card?

[Andjas W. A. <and...@gm...>]

Many thanks Tom for the notes.
I will take account your note on my research.

BR,
andjas

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Tsou [mailto:to...@ts...] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:02 AM
To: Andjas Wahyu Ardiansyah
Cc: OpenBTS Discuss
Subject: Re: [Openbts-discuss] Where I could buy Test SIM Card?

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Andjas Wahyu Ardiansyah <and...@gm...> wrote:
> So, my first question is what kind of SIM Card that I need to working 
> on GPRS & 3G-UMTS OpenBTS? Is Test SIM Card the answer for my problem?
>
> Secondly, would you kindly tell me where could I buy them? I have 
> google & search them in Amazon/Ebay, but  no “Test SIM Card” come out.

I don't suggest using 'Test SIM's' for OpenBTS right now; re-writable 2G SIM's will be the most compatible. Note that these suggestions may change if Milenage/XOR support is added.

Most 'Test SIMs' currently on the market are for 3G/4G testing with the 'dummy' XOR algorithm, which is different from both the Milenage algorithm used in deployed 3G/4G networks and basic GSM A3/A8 authentication.

For OpenBTS (GSM _and_ UMTS), you want to use 2G cards because the current implementation supports only A3/A8/comp128. That includes OpenBTS-UMTS, which uses 2G fallback mode on the older cards.

Also, to make things more complicated, many people are interested in LTE usage with OpenLTE, Amarisoft, OpenAirInterfaces, and other 4G projects. These projects will require USIMs _with_ Milenage or XOR support. So people planning on using OpenBTS and other LTE projects will likely require different sets of SIMs.

There are probably exceptions to the above notes, but that has been my experience with various writable SIMs (sysmoSIM, SuperSIM) and test USIMs (Anritsu, Agilent, R&S).

  -TT