openbts-bm2009 — Logistics for Burning Man tests

Re: [Legba2013] PapaLegba 2013 review.

[Johnny D. <jhi...@tr...>]

1)  We need to reach out to other high structures on the playa and not just
build our own towers.  There are MANY high towers out there and we should
reach out to all of them to see if they vibe with what we are doing.  Let's
get our gear attached to those towers in advance so we don't have such a
challenge building out the network.  Ice might help with this.

2)  Ice needs to understand we got limited this year.   Let's get better
involved with the Gate/Exodus crew fast.  Pete has been working on the
airport.   Next year I think if we do some basic groundwork, we'll own
comms at BM.  (free coms)

3)  Some of us added additional load on to do other art projects (Me with
the mobile piano bar, Tim with Luna...everyone helps in every direction).
 This year we didn't have Shaddi, Kurtis...(to name a few hands)  I
personally consider this a great success and (those who choose to
participate) next year will leapfrog this year.

4)  And jesus, Peter, can we get one more day before you bring out your
ass?  ;)



On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Peter Stuge <pe...@st...> wrote:

> tim panton wrote:
> > What didn't work?
> > 1) We set up late.
>
> If Papa Legba is to run a useful cell network without early arrival
> then I think it is an absolute requirement to arrive better prepared.
> No building on playa. Build in advance and just deploy on playa.
>
> That means e.g. mounting antennae to masts before loading masts
> into truck and loading equipment into truck in a manner optimized
> for deployment rather than for space or time, which surely requires
> both more space and more time.
>
> Better preparation also means a clear distinction between pre-event
> participation and during-event participation. Many things are only
> relevant pre-event and if all preparations are to take place in a
> single location then anyone who is not at that location will be
> unable to participate in any and all pre-event matters.
>
>
> > 3) We lost power _every_ night.
>
> This had very significant impact on the radio network. I had hoped
> that my request for running all infrastructure off 12V DC would have
> meant that we ran more equipment directly off batteries this year,
> but we weren't. I did however also not look into the power situation
> too closely, neither in advance nor on location.
>
>
> > It is frankly amazing that anything worked at all.
>
> Many good people put in much hard work and together I think we made
> the best we could out of the circumstances.
>
> What amazes me is that performance was *so* much worse than last year.
>
> I'm not sure that more hands on playa would have made a big difference.
>
>
> > 6) We broke our promise to Ice to deliver a gate SMS application
> >    through to monday evening.
>
> I hope that Papa Legba will continue to communicate with Ice.
>
>
> > 7) we didn't communicate our purpose very well to other burners.
>
> Personally I think I successfully communicated our purpose to those I
> spoke with - I got a lot of good response and none bad, and I also
> really liked our banners on the front porch tent and on the truck!
>
> But as a theme camp I think Papa Legba could do much better. However -
> given that we didn't offer very good user experience in the cell
> network it is just as good that we weren't heard so broadly.
>
> Most other burners who came to see us were simply interested
> in briefly using a phone, any phone, or an internet connection.
>
> We would diligently explain to them why we were really there,
> to build a cell phone network that didn't work for Verizon or AT&T
> customers, while they waited for their turn to use the hardphone
> and listened to us politely, but with varying degrees of genuine
> interest.
>
> They just needed to communicate right then and there. I'm glad and
> proud that we made that possible for so many who came to see us.
>
>
> > What worked?
>
> I think the AT&T opt-in ritual worked late in the week. Nice!
>
>
> > 1) It looks like the new L3 held up ok, although I have no stats on that.
> > 5) The inter-base station 3.5GHz network
>
> Are these two one and the same? The 3.65 GHz connectivity was good,
> excellent link quality in undisturbed spectrum. The radios had the
> factory default insecure configuration, which could have interfered
> with the NOC provisioning system (yes, even though it's a different
> band - no, not RF wise but end-user wise) but that was quick and easy
> to address.
>
> NOC told me that they will likely use 3.65 GHz for some links next
> year, so it will be important to coordinate with them (probably at
> the WiFi summit) to avoid RF interference.
>
>
> > 6) PlayaNet as backhaul worked ok for us this year - perhaps
> >    becuase we didn't require anything special of it.
>
> I'd prefer to call the NOC network uplink. As uplink it almost always
> worked well, once it had been configured, precisely because we didn't
> use it as backhaul, ie. we didn't require anything special - no manual
> configuration by NOC and no special quality of service for core
> signalling.
>
>
> > 7) The provision of wifi and a hardphone was popular again.
>
> I would even go so far as to say that that single hardphone was our
> primary contribution this year - but that was plenty for those who used it!
>
> Hermione made an interview with one guy, I hope it is published soon.
>
> It also made me very happy that people came to us because they had
> learned from others that we might help them communicate.
>
>
> > 8) group sms
>
> I'm sure that the group SMS functionality was solid in the core, but
> the fact that my phone was never registered when I looked at it (it
> was powered on for the duration of the entire event), that I couldn't
> register manually more than a few times in four days, and that I at
> one point had received the same SMS 8 times all in all meant that I
> perceived group SMS as completely unusable.
>
>
> > Overall, I'm doubtful I'll do this again, it will be difficult to
> > justify the time spent for the results unless we make significant
> > changes in our approach.
>
> I feel similarly. For me it's critical that each iteration brings
> significant progress along some axis - doing better, smarter, more
> robust, simpler, easier, more efficient, faster or in some other
> way constantly improving. Anything less is just a waste of life.
>
> Finally, communication is the foundation of all team work, which
> is what I believe accelerates progress the most.
>
> That's also why our gift of communication is so valuable.
>
>
> //Peter
>
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Re: [Legba2013] PapaLegba 2013 review.

[Peter S. <pe...@st...>]

tim panton wrote:
> What didn't work?
> 1) We set up late.

If Papa Legba is to run a useful cell network without early arrival
then I think it is an absolute requirement to arrive better prepared.
No building on playa. Build in advance and just deploy on playa.

That means e.g. mounting antennae to masts before loading masts
into truck and loading equipment into truck in a manner optimized
for deployment rather than for space or time, which surely requires
both more space and more time.

Better preparation also means a clear distinction between pre-event
participation and during-event participation. Many things are only
relevant pre-event and if all preparations are to take place in a
single location then anyone who is not at that location will be
unable to participate in any and all pre-event matters.


> 3) We lost power _every_ night.

This had very significant impact on the radio network. I had hoped
that my request for running all infrastructure off 12V DC would have
meant that we ran more equipment directly off batteries this year,
but we weren't. I did however also not look into the power situation
too closely, neither in advance nor on location.


> It is frankly amazing that anything worked at all.

Many good people put in much hard work and together I think we made
the best we could out of the circumstances.

What amazes me is that performance was *so* much worse than last year.

I'm not sure that more hands on playa would have made a big difference.


> 6) We broke our promise to Ice to deliver a gate SMS application
>    through to monday evening.

I hope that Papa Legba will continue to communicate with Ice.


> 7) we didn't communicate our purpose very well to other burners.

Personally I think I successfully communicated our purpose to those I
spoke with - I got a lot of good response and none bad, and I also
really liked our banners on the front porch tent and on the truck!

But as a theme camp I think Papa Legba could do much better. However -
given that we didn't offer very good user experience in the cell
network it is just as good that we weren't heard so broadly.

Most other burners who came to see us were simply interested
in briefly using a phone, any phone, or an internet connection.

We would diligently explain to them why we were really there,
to build a cell phone network that didn't work for Verizon or AT&T
customers, while they waited for their turn to use the hardphone
and listened to us politely, but with varying degrees of genuine
interest.

They just needed to communicate right then and there. I'm glad and
proud that we made that possible for so many who came to see us.


> What worked?

I think the AT&T opt-in ritual worked late in the week. Nice!


> 1) It looks like the new L3 held up ok, although I have no stats on that.
> 5) The inter-base station 3.5GHz network

Are these two one and the same? The 3.65 GHz connectivity was good,
excellent link quality in undisturbed spectrum. The radios had the
factory default insecure configuration, which could have interfered
with the NOC provisioning system (yes, even though it's a different
band - no, not RF wise but end-user wise) but that was quick and easy
to address.

NOC told me that they will likely use 3.65 GHz for some links next
year, so it will be important to coordinate with them (probably at
the WiFi summit) to avoid RF interference.


> 6) PlayaNet as backhaul worked ok for us this year - perhaps
>    becuase we didn't require anything special of it.

I'd prefer to call the NOC network uplink. As uplink it almost always
worked well, once it had been configured, precisely because we didn't
use it as backhaul, ie. we didn't require anything special - no manual
configuration by NOC and no special quality of service for core
signalling.


> 7) The provision of wifi and a hardphone was popular again.

I would even go so far as to say that that single hardphone was our
primary contribution this year - but that was plenty for those who used it!

Hermione made an interview with one guy, I hope it is published soon.

It also made me very happy that people came to us because they had
learned from others that we might help them communicate.


> 8) group sms

I'm sure that the group SMS functionality was solid in the core, but
the fact that my phone was never registered when I looked at it (it
was powered on for the duration of the entire event), that I couldn't
register manually more than a few times in four days, and that I at
one point had received the same SMS 8 times all in all meant that I
perceived group SMS as completely unusable.


> Overall, I'm doubtful I'll do this again, it will be difficult to
> justify the time spent for the results unless we make significant
> changes in our approach.

I feel similarly. For me it's critical that each iteration brings
significant progress along some axis - doing better, smarter, more
robust, simpler, easier, more efficient, faster or in some other
way constantly improving. Anything less is just a waste of life.

Finally, communication is the foundation of all team work, which
is what I believe accelerates progress the most.

That's also why our gift of communication is so valuable.


//Peter

Re: [Legba2013] PapaLegba 2013 review.

[David A. B. <dbu...@jc...>]

We had fewer hands and less time. The real problems were RAN-related and infrastructure-related, mostly due to poor management of the preparations on my end.  I had a lot of unexpected distractions in July that screwed my schedule.  I apologize.

Power was a serious problem.  We were offline a lot. The inverter had been reliable for 3 or 4 previous years, but it totally screwed us this year. Not only could we not rely on it to run the system overnight,  but the fast power cycling left us with a corrupt boot sector on the Yate server that probably cost us half a day of operation and may even have lead to the registry bug (a typo in the Javascript) that had us down for part of Monday.

On the list of improvements over last year, though, the Yate-based registry supported a much higher throughput than the old sipauthserve, which had been a bottleneck in previous years.  Although it took a couple of days to get adequate SMS throughput, the overall Yate framework of MySQL + Javascript was a very good one and has a lot of long-term potential.

On Sunday, the main problem with SMS delivery was not that there were not enough delivery attempts, but that so few of the delivery attempts were successful, probably because by Sunday afternoon, 2 of our 4 BTS units were offline and the remaining 2 had shifted into automatic power reduction to try to protect themselves from the high registration loads.  Having fewer tower sites didn't just mean less coverage; it also meant less total RAN capacity, which concentrated the registration loads into fewer channels and meant less excess capacity to absorb a BTS failure.

Should we do it again?  Yes, but only if we can stage properly at least two months ahead of time.  This could be done in our SF test network.  Coordination with the City of SF has been slow, but is finally moving.

On Sep 10, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Johnny Diggz <jhi...@tr...> wrote:

> It is significant to note, we had significantly fewer technical hands than we did last year.   Our fewer towers was not lack of effort, rather time.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:52 AM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote:
…

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Re: [Legba2013] PapaLegba 2013 review.

[tim p. <th...@we...>]

You are right - I meant that we had too few towers for what we were trying to do.
If we want to cover the playa with 2 towers, we need more channels per tower, or
more towers. 
Alternatively we'd need to de-scope and only a smaller area.

T.

On 10 Sep 2013, at 15:49, Johnny Diggz <jhi...@tr...> wrote:

> It is significant to note, we had significantly fewer technical hands than we did last year.   Our fewer towers was not lack of effort, rather time.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:52 AM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote:
> 
> I've just spent the day working on the stats and I thought I'd write a note on
> my thoughts for the PapaLegba crew and my Tropo sponsors.
> 
> http://gont.westhawk.co.uk/bm2013/stats/report.htm
> 
> We did significantly worse than last year. Fewer calls, fewer minutes, fewer hours up.
> 
> We did provide a useful service - e.g. 80 5 min long calls that wouldn't have been made any other way.
> 
> We also managed to gather some raw data to analyse - which is helpful - thanks Mike!
> 
> What went wrong?
> 
> 1) We set up late. by the time we went live there were already lots of handsets to register.
> 2) The SMS delivery mechanism lacked the throughput to deliver the registration load, leaving no capacity for normal traffic. Even when it had been re-written (twice) on the Playa it barely kept up. When I added 2000 sms's notifying of rain on Monday we managed to only deliver 61 of them by the time we tore down.
> 3) We lost power _every_ night. The meant that any phone still powered up had to re-register every morning - even if it hadn't moved. This consumed much of our radio capacity.
> 4) We had too few towers.
> 5) The design kept changing - despite the promise that we'd test everything at RELIEF, use a VPN and use IMSIs as caller IDs - we did none of the above. 
> We rocked up late, with an entirely untested core network which was still being re-written on thursday. It is frankly amazing that anything worked at all.
> 6) We broke our promise to Ice to deliver a gate SMS application through to monday evening.
> 7) we didn't communicate our purpose very well to other burners.
> 
> What worked?
> 1) It looks like the new L3 held up ok, although I have no stats on that.
> 2) The ability to script the core network meant that we could re-write the SMS delivery (at least to some extent) so that it prioritized recent SMSs thus keeping a small number of people happy at least.
> 3) the interface with tropo worked - the ability to access a database from tropo was very handy for sms groups etc.
> 4) outbound voice and SMS to the PSTN
> 5) The inter-base station 3.5GHz network
> 6) PlayaNet as backhaul worked ok for us this year - perhaps becuase we didn't require anything special of it.
> 7) The provision of wifi and a hardphone was popular again.
> 8) group sms
> 
> 
> Overall, I'm doubtful I'll do this again, it will be difficult to justify the time spent for the results unless we make significant changes in our approach.
> 
> I'll write a separate note on the viability of scripting a core network in javascript.
> 
> Tim.
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Re: [Legba2013] PapaLegba 2013 review.

[Johnny D. <jhi...@tr...>]

It is significant to note, we had significantly fewer technical hands than
we did last year.   Our fewer towers was not lack of effort, rather time.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:52 AM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote:

>
> I've just spent the day working on the stats and I thought I'd write a
> note on
> my thoughts for the PapaLegba crew and my Tropo sponsors.
>
> http://gont.westhawk.co.uk/bm2013/stats/report.htm
>
> We did significantly worse than last year. Fewer calls, fewer minutes,
> fewer hours up.
>
> We did provide a useful service - e.g. 80 5 min long calls that wouldn't
> have been made any other way.
>
> We also managed to gather some raw data to analyse - which is helpful -
> thanks Mike!
>
> What went wrong?
>
> 1) We set up late. by the time we went live there were already lots of
> handsets to register.
> 2) The SMS delivery mechanism lacked the throughput to deliver the
> registration load, leaving no capacity for normal traffic. Even when it had
> been re-written (twice) on the Playa it barely kept up. When I added 2000
> sms's notifying of rain on Monday we managed to only deliver 61 of them by
> the time we tore down.
> 3) We lost power _every_ night. The meant that any phone still powered up
> had to re-register every morning - even if it hadn't moved. This consumed
> much of our radio capacity.
> 4) We had too few towers.
> 5) The design kept changing - despite the promise that we'd test
> everything at RELIEF, use a VPN and use IMSIs as caller IDs - we did none
> of the above.
> We rocked up late, with an entirely untested core network which was still
> being re-written on thursday. It is frankly amazing that anything worked at
> all.
> 6) We broke our promise to Ice to deliver a gate SMS application through
> to monday evening.
> 7) we didn't communicate our purpose very well to other burners.
>
> What worked?
> 1) It looks like the new L3 held up ok, although I have no stats on that.
> 2) The ability to script the core network meant that we could re-write the
> SMS delivery (at least to some extent) so that it prioritized recent SMSs
> thus keeping a small number of people happy at least.
> 3) the interface with tropo worked - the ability to access a database from
> tropo was very handy for sms groups etc.
> 4) outbound voice and SMS to the PSTN
> 5) The inter-base station 3.5GHz network
> 6) PlayaNet as backhaul worked ok for us this year - perhaps becuase we
> didn't require anything special of it.
> 7) The provision of wifi and a hardphone was popular again.
> 8) group sms
>
>
> Overall, I'm doubtful I'll do this again, it will be difficult to justify
> the time spent for the results unless we make significant changes in our
> approach.
>
> I'll write a separate note on the viability of scripting a core network in
> javascript.
>
> Tim.
>
>
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[Legba2013] PapaLegba 2013 review.

[tim p. <th...@we...>]

I've just spent the day working on the stats and I thought I'd write a note on
my thoughts for the PapaLegba crew and my Tropo sponsors.

http://gont.westhawk.co.uk/bm2013/stats/report.htm

We did significantly worse than last year. Fewer calls, fewer minutes, fewer hours up.

We did provide a useful service - e.g. 80 5 min long calls that wouldn't have been made any other way.

We also managed to gather some raw data to analyse - which is helpful - thanks Mike!

What went wrong?

1) We set up late. by the time we went live there were already lots of handsets to register.
2) The SMS delivery mechanism lacked the throughput to deliver the registration load, leaving no capacity for normal traffic. Even when it had been re-written (twice) on the Playa it barely kept up. When I added 2000 sms's notifying of rain on Monday we managed to only deliver 61 of them by the time we tore down.
3) We lost power _every_ night. The meant that any phone still powered up had to re-register every morning - even if it hadn't moved. This consumed much of our radio capacity.
4) We had too few towers.
5) The design kept changing - despite the promise that we'd test everything at RELIEF, use a VPN and use IMSIs as caller IDs - we did none of the above. 
We rocked up late, with an entirely untested core network which was still being re-written on thursday. It is frankly amazing that anything worked at all.
6) We broke our promise to Ice to deliver a gate SMS application through to monday evening.
7) we didn't communicate our purpose very well to other burners.

What worked?
1) It looks like the new L3 held up ok, although I have no stats on that.
2) The ability to script the core network meant that we could re-write the SMS delivery (at least to some extent) so that it prioritized recent SMSs thus keeping a small number of people happy at least.
3) the interface with tropo worked - the ability to access a database from tropo was very handy for sms groups etc.
4) outbound voice and SMS to the PSTN
5) The inter-base station 3.5GHz network
6) PlayaNet as backhaul worked ok for us this year - perhaps becuase we didn't require anything special of it.
7) The provision of wifi and a hardphone was popular again.
8) group sms


Overall, I'm doubtful I'll do this again, it will be difficult to justify the time spent for the results unless we make significant changes in our approach.

I'll write a separate note on the viability of scripting a core network in javascript.

Tim.

[Legba2013] network information

[David A. B. <dbu...@jc...>]

All -

The BRC2013 plan is coming together fast.  Details of the network deployment are posted publicly at

http://papalegba2013.wikispaces.com/Network

-- David

Re: [Legba2013] Tickets.

[David A. B. <dbu...@jc...>]

Crap, I think you are correct.

On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:44 PM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote:

>> 
>> 
> I think the whole step program closes down (both buy and sell).
> 
> T.

Re: [Legba2013] Tickets.

[tim p. <th...@we...>]

On 29 Jul 2013, at 20:03, "David A. Burgess" <dbu...@jc...> wrote:

> 
> Well, we might not buy back the exact same tickets, but they are mostly fungible.
> 
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Kurtis Heimerl <khe...@cs...> wrote:
> 
>> I don't think we can assume we'd get a shot at getting them back, they just go into a sales pool right?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
I think the whole step program closes down (both buy and sell).

T.

Re: [Legba2013] Tickets.

[Kurtis H. <khe...@cs...>]

Low chance of them selling all of the tickets?


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:03 AM, David A. Burgess <dbu...@jc...> wrote:

>
> Well, we might not buy back the exact same tickets, but they are mostly
> fungible.
>
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Kurtis Heimerl <khe...@cs...>
> wrote:
>
> I don't think we can assume we'd get a shot at getting them back, they
> just go into a sales pool right?
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Legba2013] Tickets.

[David A. B. <dbu...@jc...>]

Well, we might not buy back the exact same tickets, but they are mostly fungible.

On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Kurtis Heimerl <khe...@cs...> wrote:

> I don't think we can assume we'd get a shot at getting them back, they just go into a sales pool right?
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Legba2013] Tickets.

[Kurtis H. <khe...@cs...>]

I don't think we can assume we'd get a shot at getting them back, they just
go into a sales pool right?


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:59 AM, David A. Burgess <dbu...@jc...> wrote:

> Tim -
>
> Does anyone know if tickets are generally available through STEP right
> now?  If so, we should probably put all uncommitted tickets into the
> program.  Worst case, we end up buying them back.
>
> -- David
>
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:39 AM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote:
>
> > I have 2 spare tickets (long story).
> > I get the feeling we may have more than we need .
> > Should I be putting them back into the secure ticket exchange ?
> > The deadline for that is tomorrow .
> >
> > T.
> >
>
>
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Re: [Legba2013] Tickets.

[David A. B. <dbu...@jc...>]

Tim -

Does anyone know if tickets are generally available through STEP right now?  If so, we should probably put all uncommitted tickets into the program.  Worst case, we end up buying them back.

-- David

On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:39 AM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote:

> I have 2 spare tickets (long story).
> I get the feeling we may have more than we need . 
> Should I be putting them back into the secure ticket exchange ?
> The deadline for that is tomorrow .
> 
> T.
> 

[Legba2013] Tickets.

[tim p. <th...@we...>]

I have 2 spare tickets (long story).
I get the feeling we may have more than we need . 
Should I be putting them back into the secure ticket exchange ?
The deadline for that is tomorrow .

T.

Re: [Legba2013] Tickets

[Shaddi H. <sh...@be...>]

I can't go either this year, so I've got two tickets available as well.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Johnny Diggz <jhi...@tr...> wrote:
> I will buy it if no one else wants it.
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Kurtis Heimerl <khe...@cs...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> So as we may remember, I'm not going to attend this year. I have one spare
>> ticket, should I be trying to offload this or are we going to use it?
>>
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Re: [Legba2013] Tickets

[Johnny D. <jhi...@tr...>]

I will buy it if no one else wants it.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Kurtis Heimerl <khe...@cs...>wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> So as we may remember, I'm not going to attend this year. I have one spare
> ticket, should I be trying to offload this or are we going to use it?
>
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[Legba2013] Tickets

[Kurtis H. <khe...@cs...>]

Hey all,

So as we may remember, I'm not going to attend this year. I have one spare
ticket, should I be trying to offload this or are we going to use it?

[Legba2013] Fwd: [BManUpdate] V17:#29:7.18.13 LOCAL TOWNS & RESOURCES

[David A. B. <dbu...@jc...>]

FYI. Good stuff to know.

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> Von: Will Chase <jac...@bu...>
> Datum: July 18, 2013, 21:43:46 PDT
> An: bma...@bu...
> Betreff: [BManUpdate] V17:#29:7.18.13 LOCAL TOWNS & RESOURCES
> 
> Burning Man Update: The Jack Rabbit Speaks
> Volume 17, Issue #29 LOCAL TOWNS & RESOURCES
> July 18, 2013
> 
> 
> 
> {==============================}
> {=======TABLE OF CONTENTS======}
> {==============================}
> 
> 
> INTRODUCTION
> 
> RENO - THE BIGGEST LITTLE CITY IN THE WORLD:
> + FULL-BLOWN RENO INFORMATION
> + RENO-TAHOE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
> + AIR PLAYA INFO AT THE RENO-TAHOE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
> + THE EXODUS TRASH AND RECYCLING NETWORK (EXTRA!)
> + BURNER EXPRESS -- BUSING FROM THE RENO AIRPORT (AND SF) TO BRC
> + ADVANTAGE FLIGHT -- WE'LL FLY YA TO THE PLAYA
> + RIDESHARING FROM RENO TO BRC
> + DRIVING DIRECTIONS FROM RENO TO BLACK ROCK CITY
> + THE GENERATOR COMMUNITY ART AND BUILDERS SPACE
> + "BURNING MAN - THRIVING IN THE DESERT, FLOURISHING IN THE WORLD" EXHIBIT OPENING IN RENO-TAHOE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IN AUGUST
> 
> TOWNS EN ROUTE FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS:
> + FROM THE NORTHWEST: CEDARVILLE & ALTURAS
> + FROM THE EAST: LOVELOCK
> + FROM THE SOUTHEAST: FALLON
> + FROM THE SOUTH: FERNLEY
> + BRC'S CLOSE NEIGHBORS: WADSWORTH, NIXON, AND PYRAMID LAKE
> 
> PLAYA-PROXIMATE TOWNS
> + GETTING YOUR SUPPLIES AND SHOWERS IN GERLACH
> + GERLACH CAR WASH
> + PURCHASING WATER IN GERLACH
> + EMPIRE STORE
> 
> CONNECT WITH BURNING MAN:
> + Burning Man on your favorite social networks
> 
> ADMINISTERRATA:
> Want to unsubscribe from the JRS? Really? OK, here's how: http://bit.ly/nxU8Gz
> 
> 
> {==============================}
> {========INTRODUCTION==========}
> {==============================}
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> In the last JRS, we mistakenly (ooooops) left a placeholder URL in the section about alternative costume options. We're still waiting on the correct one, and will post it when it's available. 
> 
> ONWARD!
> 
> Hello everybody ... in case you haven't peeked at the calendar lately, it's high time to start plotting your strategy for getting to Black Rock City, and getting all the supplies you need along the way. And we're here to help. We've compiled an impressive (if we do say so ourselves) collection of resources in the neighboring towns you'll pass through on the way to BRC, whichever direction you're coming from -- even from the air.
> 
> Whether you want to load up on water, find a tent, grab another costume, get that last shower ... or just take a moment to kiss civilization goodbye, we've got you handled ...
> 
> Yep, coming from the West or Southwest (or flying in from across the country or around the globe), we've got Reno covered. From the Northwest, Cedarville. From the East, we got Lovelock and Fernley. From the Southeast, there's Fallon. Then for most travelers, Wadsworth and Nixon, our good neighbors from the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe. And finally, when you get up close to the playa, our favorite small desert towns: Gerlach and Empire.
> 
> Now, this part is important: these communities are our neighbors. We've formed some great relationships with them over the years, and frankly, our community in the desert couldn't continue without them. Please pay all these towns the utmost respect on your way through. Show them some love, and be sure to remember that your actions represent Burners everywhere. When patronizing a local business, rest area, or parking lot, please be respectful and courteous. Just like on the playa, you absolutely must LEAVE NO TRACE. And keep your damn pants on, just this once.
> 
> Finally, if you're going to be loading up on supplies in the region, learn more about how you can spend your money at businesses that invest in social capital: http://bit.ly/MG574Q 
> 
> The Man burns in 44 days!
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> {==============================}
> {===RENO: BIGGEST LITTLE CITY==}
> {==============================}
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> FULL-BLOWN RENO INFORMATION
> 
> The Reno area is the nearest major metropolitan area to Black Rock City, 2.5 hours away. If you plan to get any or all of the supplies you need in Reno, or to stay overnight there, we have a big section on our website PACKED with information on all of the important local resources -- supermarkets, water, hardware, curiosity shops, recycling, trash and greywater disposal, hotels, restaurants, bars, transportation and shipping, you name it. And all mapped out for your navigational planning. These pages are painstakingly updated each year by a team of local Burners who know whereof they speak. Check it out:
> 
> http://bit.ly/MCcRTq
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> RENO-TAHOE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
> 
> Burning Man is the busiest time of year for the Reno-Tahoe International Airport, with over 15,000 Burners coming through on their way to and from the playa. In fact, Burning Man brings an estimated $10 million in revenue to the airport and the Airport President recently said "Burners literally put the 'International' in Reno-Tahoe International Airport's name." Cool, huh? Well we've got information and resources that will help make your travel through the airport as smooth as possible here:
> 
> http://bit.ly/2LojV
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> AIR PLAYA INFO AT THE RENO-TAHOE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
> 
> Through the coordinated efforts of the Burning Man Project and Reno-Tahoe International Airport, Air Playa Info returns for its sixth year to provide information and resources for travelers on their way to Burning Man.
> 
> Located next to Baggage Claim inside the airport, the knowledgeable volunteers at the Air Playa Info table will help answer your questions, provide directions and maps, and share information about Reno-area resources, including transportation options to Black Rock City.
> 
> Air Playa Info will be available 9am-10pm daily from Friday, August 23 through Thursday, August 29.
> 
> More info found here: http://bit.ly/iE9OW8
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> THE BURNING MAN EXODUS TRASH AND RECYCLING NETWORK (EXTRA!)
> 
> Saturday, August 31 – Wednesday, September 4. OPEN 24 HOURS!
> 
> There are several convenient 24-hour trash and recycling centers along all Exodus routes. Recycling is free and trash disposal is approximately $5 per 35-gallon trash bag. 
> 
> HUMAN AND OTHER HAZARDOUS WASTE IS ABSOLUTELY PROHIBITED!  
> 
> Accepted Recyclables: Bicycles, plastics (SPI 1-5), glass, all metals, paper, cardboard, plastic bags, household (rechargeable and disposable) batteries, and non-perishable food and water. Please plan ahead, clean your recyclables as much as possible, and have them debagged and sorted before depositing into the appropriate containers. Deposit trash separately into appropriate dumpsters.  Again: NO human and other hazardous waste whatsoever!
> 
> And remember this is a tremendously generous service to our community – PLEASE be polite and responsible!  
> 
> Drop-Off Locations: 
> 
> To the South, East, & West of BRC...
> 
> Save Mart Supermarkets
> • 525 Keystone Avenue, Reno, NV, 775-786-2150
> • 9750 Pyramid Lake Highway, Sparks, NV, 775-425-2700
> • 565 East Prater Way, Sparks, NV, 775-359-9060
> • 195 West Plumb Lane, Reno, NV, 775-786-0138 (back of store)
> 
> Whole Foods Market:
> • 6139 South Virginia Street, Reno, NV, 775-852-8023
> 
> To the North of BRC...
> 
> Rabbit Traxx Store
> • 580 Patterson Way, Cedarville, CA, 530-279-2022
> 
> [[[[[PLEASE NOTE: In the printed Burning Man Survival Guide, the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe Transfer Station was listed as an Exodus Trash and Recycling Network location. Unfortunately, the Tribe is unable to take part in the program this year. Please take your trash and recycling to one of the other locations listed above.]]]]]
> 
> Project proceeds beyond expenses will be donated to help support new Black Rock Solar installations or other local community programs in the region. Non-perishable food and water will be donated to local Food Banks, and bicycles will be donated to local bike programs to support kids in need. Your careful participation in the seventh year of this multi-community project community is greatly appreciated! Leave No Trace on and off the playa.
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> BURNER EXPRESS - BUSING FROM THE RENO AIRPORT TO BLACK ROCK CITY
> 
> In an effort to reduce traffic and limit the environmental impact of our event, Burning Man organizers are offering the Burner Express bus service with pickups in San Francisco and the Reno airport to Black Rock City and back. This service offers early arrival, speedier entrance, ticket pick up, reserved camping and quicker departures.
> 
> Burner Express is ideal for participants flying into the event and for Burners involved in art projects and theme camps having their gear hauled in by campmates. Tickets start at $60 one way from the Reno-Tahoe International Airport and $95 one way from the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in San Francisco. Additional charges apply for extra luggage or for a stop at a grocery store in Reno. Departures begin from both locations Saturday, August 24 and return trips begin Friday, August 30.
> 
> Large motor coach buses will take Burners to Gerlach, where they will hop on smaller buses for the ride into Black Rock City. There will be a "bus only" lane to sidestep traffic backups at Gate and Greeters, and bus passengers will have their own Will Call station for speedier ticket pick up.
> 
> Once inside BRC, bus riders have the option of camping in a reserved camping section on the 6 o'clock access road or taking shuttles out to 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock along G Street.
> 
> For more information, see: 
> www.burningman.com/preparation/travel_info/burner_express.html
> 
> To purchase tickets, visit:
> www.burnerexpress.com
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> ADVANTAGE FLIGHT - THEY'LL FLY YA TO THE PLAYA!
> 
> Flying into and out of Burning Man has always been one way to save the drive, avoid the lines at the Gate and during Exodus, and keep cars off the road. Advantage Flight, a Burner-owned and operated charter air service with over 700 playa flights logged since 2005, teams up this year with several other charter operators with a goal of reducing at least 1000 cars from this year's Burn. 
> 
> Advantage now offers several daily non-stop flights between the BRC Airport and Reno, and then to and from the Bay and Northern and Southern California, the Pacific Northwest, and Utah. In addition to passengers, Advantage can fly in materials for build crews, such as baggage, fresh food, and other supplies. Check out the details at: www.advantageflight.com/bman .
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> RIDESHARING FROM RENO TO BLACK ROCK CITY
> 
> If you are unable to arrange for means of transportation from Reno to BRC beforehand, you also have two well-used Rideshare possibilities to BRC: 
> 
> First option is from the airport, where you may be able to negotiate a ride from fellow Burners renting a car. Check in at Air Playa Info to see if anyone has a seat. Chances are you may also be able to get some of your supplies on the ride too, as most everyone flying in has to get supplies -- be sure and ask. 
> 
> Your second rideshare option is to go to the busiest pit-stop where Burners driving to BRC go to shop. This rideshare location is 10 minutes from the airport, and open 24 hours. 
> 
> Save Mart Supermarket
> 525 Keystone Ave - 775-786-2150
> 
> Check in at Air Playa Info to see if there may be other Burners who may be willing to give you a ride there (if not to the playa), or to see if anyone may be willing to carpool a taxi with you.
> 
> **Some important things to keep in mind about ridesharing with fellow Burners** 
> 
> Riders: 
> - Offering to chip in for gas is helpful if you can.
> - Everyone in the vehicle must be wearing a seatbelt -- it's the law.
> - Be sure to LEAVE NO TRACE at the rideshare locations.
> 
> Drivers: 
> - Make sure EVERYBODY in the vehicle has their Burning Man ticket, or has one at Will Call. If riders aren't holding a ticket or a will call receipt, we ask you to not bring them to BRC. 
> 
> Riders and Drivers:
> - BE COMFORTABLE with whom you choose to share a ride.
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> DRIVING DIRECTIONS FROM RENO TO BLACK ROCK CITY
> 
> OK, so you've done what you need to do ... you've got your ride packed to the gills, you're gassed up, you're ready to venture forth from Reno and out to Black Rock City! Woot! Wait, how do you get there?  Here ya go:
> 
> http://bit.ly/MCezUS
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> THE GENERATOR COMMUNITY ART AND BUILDERS SPACE
> 
> The Generator is a new, experimental, and radically-inclusive art and builders space in the Reno-Sparks area, dedicated to playa-bound and year-round projects. Art installations being built there for Black Rock City include the Control Tower, Icthyosaur Puppet Project, Dawn Patrol, Like 4 Real and several Regional CORE Effigy projects from around the world. If you have a little extra time travelling through, you may want to check it out. 
> 
> If you are (responsible and) looking for a free interactive space in which to build, and a passionate community to be part of, definitely check them out. They're having a few events, in fact! On July 20 they're having a Grand Open House party, and on August 10 a Quinceanera Pre-Playa Freak Out party. To contact them and for further info, check out their website:
> 
> www.therenogenerator.com
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> "BURNING MAN - THRIVING IN THE DESERT, FLOURISHING IN THE WORLD" EXHIBIT OPENING IN RENO-TAHOE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IN AUGUST
> 
> Travelers arriving at Reno-Tahoe International Airport this summer will be treated to a showcase of “material culture” from the Burning Man event and - for those who think it’s just an event in the desert - examples of how Burning Man’s 10 Principles have permeated culture worldwide.
> 
> The display: “Burning Man: Thriving in the Desert, Flourishing in the World” will be on display from early August through mid-October in the airport’s recently renovated gallery space between the arrival / departure gates and the security gates. 
> 
> The exhibit includes two display cases of Burning Man “material culture” including examples of beautiful patches and jewelry designed by participants. A standing case will display San Francisco artist $teven Ra$pa’s “Dust Devil” costume. Also included is imagery of art installations brought to the Black Rock Desert from around the world, including New York artist Kate Raudenbush’s art piece “Star Seed.”
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> {========================================}
> {==TOWNS EN ROUTE FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS==}
> {========================================}
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> FROM THE NORTHWEST: CEDARVILLE & ALTURAS
> 
> The town of Cedarville, CA is a great place to stop and get supplies from the northwest, and your last for 85 miles. The community really supports us and looks forward to seeing us every year. In fact, all Burners and their art are warmly welcome to participate in the Modoc County Fair in Cedarville August 22-25, as well as in the Town Parade on August 25. An invaluable opportunity to get to know our neighbors, and show off your Burner selves, art and mutant vehicles at this family-friendly event. All info on the parade, fair and resources in Cedarville can be found here:
> 
> http://bit.ly/1aoPkG
> 
> **Also, a special note to all northbound travelers leaving Black Rock City during Exodus**:
> 
> Remember the Cedarville Rancheria Tribe's Rabbit Traxx store is taking part in the Exodus Trash and Recycling Network again this year, so you can take all your trash and recycling there after Burning Man! See here for the details:
> 
> http://survival.burningman.com/leave-no-trace/pack-it-out/
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> FROM THE EAST: LOVELOCK
> 
> Set on the western edge of "Cowboy Country," Lovelock, the County Seat of Pershing County, is a major pit-stop on I-80 to look forward to if you are traveling from the east. It's also your last for 70 miles until Fernley, when you veer north off to the playa. Great place to stop, get gas, food, supplies, a bed for the night and show our dear neighbors some love. Get all the details here:
> 
> http://bit.ly/K68zP
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> FROM THE SOUTHEAST: FALLON
> 
> Fallon is your first major town after traveling hundreds of miles across Nevada, whether from Las Vegas or via Highway 50. Many resources can be found in this very hospitable oasis in the desert, and we've got them listed here:
> 
> http://bit.ly/pD4SrU
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> FROM THE SOUTH: FERNLEY
> 
> Your last town to find major supplies within 100 miles of BRC, Fernley is very supportive of Burning Man with some great things to offer. More information about what's available in Fernley can be found here:
> 
> http://bit.ly/OzKHa
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> BLACK ROCK CITY'S CLOSE NEIGHBORS: WADSWORTH, NIXON, AND PYRAMID LAKE
> 
> Most travelers pass through the towns of Wadsworth and Nixon on the Pyramid Lake Paiute Reservation on their way to Burning Man. The Tribe is very supportive of Burning Man and hospitable to travelers. You will find the I-80 Smokeshop in Wadsworth and The Nixon Store in Nixon with gas, food, alcohol, ice, cheap smokes, ATM, pay-phone and lots of other supplies, as well as lake camping and day-use permits. There are also lake tours, RV Parks and campgrounds, a restaurant and saloon, auto/tow service and car-wash in Wadsworth. Some of the businesses/services will be open 24 hours during peak travel times. Check out all the information here:
> 
> Wadsworth - http://bit.ly/qYFca6
> Nixon and Pyramid Lake - http://bit.ly/qnn6Um
> 
> PYRAMID LAKE
> 
> Pyramid Lake is a beautiful ancient lake at the heart of the Paiute Tribe Reservation, with plenty of day-use and camping opportunities for before and/or after the hot dusty playa.
> 
> NOTE: All day-use and camping requires permits! Proceeds from permits help support the Tribal Government, and water quality and environmental programs that protect the unique ecosystem of Pyramid Lake year round. The Tribe advises all travelers that the north and east side of the lake, Anajo Island, The Pyramid, and The Needles, are off-limits to everyone but Tribe members. The Tribe also advises that souvenir and artifact hunting are not permitted. To purchase camping, day-use, and other permits online, or for a list of permit locations and additional information about Pyramid Lake, please visit www.pyramidlake.us. 
> 
> PYRAMID LAKE ART SHOW
> 
> The Paiute Tribe invites all Burning Man participants to stop and experience the unique art and culture on display at the Pyramid Lake Arts and Crafts Show, Saturday and Sunday, August 24-25, at the Pyramid Lake Museum and Visitors Center (709 State Street in Nixon, across from The Nixon Store). Native American artists will be displaying and selling their artwork & crafts. The traveler will also find an invaluable experience in checking out the Museum itself with breathtaking architecture and a remarkable display of the history and culture of the Tribe, lake, and land. If you are camping on Pyramid Lake or otherwise have the time, don't miss out on this special arts show at the Museum that will leave you with an appreciation for the unique arts and culture of Pyramid Lake.
> 
> CAR WASH
> 
> The Sacred Visions Powwow Committee will be sponsoring a carwash during Exodus for travelers next to the Natchez Elementary School, just as you enter Wadsworth on State Route 447. The wash will be available for vehicles of all sizes during daylight hours from August 31 - September 3. All funds raised will go to support the 6th Annual Sacred Visions Powwow.
> 
> TRAVEL ADVISORY
> 
> The Tribe advises all travelers to slow down and keep your distance while traveling through the Pyramid Lake Paiute Reservation. Obey the posted speed limits and keep a safe distance between your vehicle and the vehicle in front of you. All State Routes on the reservation are two lane roads and the Tribe would like motorists to be aware of the dangers associated with high speeds on two lane highways. The entire Pyramid Lake Paiute Reservation is an open range area for livestock. Motorists must be cautious of livestock that may be on the highways. Finally, while passing though the Tribal communities of Wadsworth and Nixon, the Tribe requests that motorists be cautious of children and courteous to Tribal Members that may attempt to cross the road, or that are accessing their homes, businesses or Tribal Services.
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> {==============================}
> {=====PLAYA-PROXIMATE TOWNS====}
> {==============================}
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> GETTING YOUR SUPPLIES AND SHOWERS IN GERLACH
> 
> You can support your Gerlach Burners by getting your supplies at the big WHITE STAR TENT at 305 Main Street in Gerlach beginning Wednesday, August 21 and continuing throughout the event!
> 
> The BarSyl Bazaar in Gerlach has a solid collection of supplies for Burning Man, including bikes, beer, ice, goggles, playa wear and food. 2 blocks north of Bruno's in Gerlach.
> 
> Also, Sylvia and JB's Mutant Vehicle Support is near the Burning Man Ranch, by the Black Rock Desert. Please contact JB for contacts, towing or troubleshooting if you have any trouble with your vehicle on the way to or from Burning Man.
> 
> Info:
> 775-557-2804
> 775-721-8061
> http://artcarsupport.com
> Iveson Ranch - Gerlach
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> GERLACH CAR WASH
> 
> The annual Gerlach Car Wash will happen again this year on Sunday and Monday of Exodus. All proceeds go to athletic programs at Gerlach Schools. All of the student athletes (along with parents and teachers) come out with the hopes of washing many a playa-dusty vehicle.
> 
> The Car Wash is located on the corner of Main Street in Gerlach. Thanks for supporting the local community!
> 
> 
> **\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**\<>/**
> 
> 
> PURCHASING WATER IN GERLACH
> 
> Our good friends with the Gerlach General Improvement District update us on getting water there and how it supports you and their community:
> 
> "Gerlach General Improvement District - 330 Short Drive – 775-557-2601
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Re: [Legba2013] [SPAM] Re: bad news on placement

[tim p. <th...@we...>]

On 14 Jul 2013, at 06:35, "David A. Burgess" <dbu...@jc...> wrote:

> Tim -
> 
> 
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:50 PM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote:
> 
>> So we should:
>> 	Aim for fewer sites
>>       Prestage better
>>       Not spend time using the the playa net wifi if we can help it.
> 
> Mark and I were thinking 2 2-sector sites on 40' masts, one on each side of town.  And we can use a couple of those army masts for fill in if we have time.
> 

Cool.

>> 
>> On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like?
>> Have we a core network switch chosen and configured?
> 
> Mark and Diggz and I discussed the network this week and were thinking to use Yate for the main switch and Tropo for all of the applications.  (Yate would be configured to route application extensions to Tropo.)

Sounds good - do we have suitable 64bit 12v hardware to install tropo on ? 
(I have a 32bit atom but I can't get that to RELIEF in time).

What about outgoing calls - are we planning to do the NAT-4-Phones thing ?
If so, can we agree a caller id format etc in advance please ?

> 
> 
>> What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?)
> 
> I don't know what to do with ATT users.  I think we'll provision everyone else by IVR or text, with text being preferred.  But we may just continue to block ATT users just to avoid any hint of trouble from Commnet.

I still like the idea of being able to 'bless' ATT phones, but I suppose handing out SIMs may help.

> 
>> 
>> There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish.
> 
> Yes.  Mark is staging the network in SF this coming week.  The rule is that nothing goes to Burning Man that doesn't run and JFIX/RELIEF in the first week of August.  And nothing runs at JFIX/RELIEF that doesn't get staged in SF this month.

Great - please add a 64bit box for tropo and I'll try and get stuff installed on it from over here.

> 
>> 
>> I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better, and even more in the spirit
>> of the place.
> 
> I agree.
> 
>> 
>> T.
> 

Re: [Legba2013] bad news on placement

[Peter S. <pe...@st...>]

David A. Burgess wrote:
> Mark and I were discussing this last night.  I think we can cover
> most of BRC from 2 40' masts with 2 sectors on each, especially if
> we run in the 900 band.

This sounds really reasonable.


> That's one mast on the 9:00 side and one on the 3:00 side.

8:00 and 4:00 on D or E seems like it would be ideal. That's
unreserved space so we could try to put Papa Legba at 8 and
maybe ask Pete if we could put the other mast behind his camp?


> We can also bring a couple of omni push-up masts for extra
> coverage, like at the airport.

Sounds good.


//Peter

Re: [Legba2013] bad news on placement

[David A. B. <dbu...@jc...>]

Tim -


On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:50 PM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote:

> So we should:
> 	Aim for fewer sites
>        Prestage better
>        Not spend time using the the playa net wifi if we can help it.

Mark and I were thinking 2 2-sector sites on 40' masts, one on each side of town.  And we can use a couple of those army masts for fill in if we have time.

> 
> On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like?
> Have we a core network switch chosen and configured?

Mark and Diggz and I discussed the network this week and were thinking to use Yate for the main switch and Tropo for all of the applications.  (Yate would be configured to route application extensions to Tropo.)


> What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?)

I don't know what to do with ATT users.  I think we'll provision everyone else by IVR or text, with text being preferred.  But we may just continue to block ATT users just to avoid any hint of trouble from Commnet.

> 
> There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish.

Yes.  Mark is staging the network in SF this coming week.  The rule is that nothing goes to Burning Man that doesn't run and JFIX/RELIEF in the first week of August.  And nothing runs at JFIX/RELIEF that doesn't get staged in SF this month.

> 
> I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better, and even more in the spirit
> of the place.

I agree.

> 
> T.

Re: [Legba2013] bad news on placement

[David A. B. <dbu...@jc...>]

Mark and I were discussing this last night.  I think we can cover most of BRC from 2 40' masts with 2 sectors on each, especially if we run in the 900 band.  That's one mast on the 9:00 side and one on the 3:00 side.  I say this because last year we were reaching the man from 4:20 & D on a 30' mast with an omni.  We can get those up pretty fast with a boom truck, if we can borrow one, but we will need to package some 10W or 50W rack-mount units for outdoor installation.

We can also bring a couple of omni push-up masts for extra coverage, like at the airport.

On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Harvind Samra <ha...@ra...> wrote:

> Three options:
> 
> 1) Run a smaller network of 2-3 nodes.
> 
> 2) Friend-up with a camp that did get placement
> 
> 3) Bail for this year.
> 

Re: [Legba2013] bad news on placement

[Peter S. <pe...@st...>]

tim panton wrote:
> On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like?
> Have we a core network switch chosen and configured?
> 
> What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?)
> 
> There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish.

I thought about L2+L3 network things a few months ago and am still
hoping to hear more about what hardware is easily available.

So far Mark mentioned 4x Routerboard. I have a Carambola2 (AR9331
2.4GHz bgn) 0.5W system with 2 100Mbps ports which I'll prepare for
battery operation; it could be access point and router between camp
and the operations network. Neither Routerboard nor Carambola2 can
really run any services however. We need at least one other battery
operated system for that. I have one or two picoPSU which accept
regulated 12V input and provide 90W ATX power, good for mini-ITX
boards if they don't already have 12V input.

The question I still have is what to run where how. A VPN is easy to
create any time but I think it makes most sense once we have a bit
more network overview/plan..

For central services it comes back to what hardware we can build
with.


> I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better

+1 though not in the sense that we refuse anyone who would like to play.


//Peter

Re: [Legba2013] bad news on placement

[Peter K. <pe...@me...>]

BTW,

This year we are Dusty Acres Embassy.

Our camp is considerably smaller and our focus is on our mutant vehicles.

We will not have any public comms.


Best Regards,

Pete
C 415-283-8374
________________________________________
From: tim panton [th...@we...]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:50 PM
To: ope...@li...
Subject: Re: [Legba2013] bad news on placement

So we should:
        Aim for fewer sites
        Prestage better
        Not spend time using the the playa net wifi if we can help it.

On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like?
Have we a core network switch chosen and configured?
What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?)

There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish.

I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better, and even more in the spirit
of the place.

T.


On 11 Jul 2013, at 19:33, Peter Killcommons <pe...@me...> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> Yes, we were placed, but not near center camp.  We will be closer to where you guys were last year.
>
> We have the Ambulance and also a second ambiulance with masts that can be used.
>
> I would suggest that you pre-stage your gear so that it can be mounted on the ambulance, or we also have a hand push up mast that has a base plate that you roll a car onto, and from there you can raise the mast 30 feet by hand. That would be ideal to work with something you guys might put in one of your own vehicles, using the mast for easy and quick set up.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Pete
> C 415-283-8374

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Re: [Legba2013] bad news on placement

[tim p. <th...@we...>]

So we should:
	Aim for fewer sites
        Prestage better
        Not spend time using the the playa net wifi if we can help it.

On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like?
Have we a core network switch chosen and configured?
What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?)

There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish.

I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better, and even more in the spirit
of the place.

T.


On 11 Jul 2013, at 19:33, Peter Killcommons <pe...@me...> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> Yes, we were placed, but not near center camp.  We will be closer to where you guys were last year.
> 
> We have the Ambulance and also a second ambiulance with masts that can be used.
> 
> I would suggest that you pre-stage your gear so that it can be mounted on the ambulance, or we also have a hand push up mast that has a base plate that you roll a car onto, and from there you can raise the mast 30 feet by hand. That would be ideal to work with something you guys might put in one of your own vehicles, using the mast for easy and quick set up.
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Pete
> C 415-283-8374