From: David A. B. <dbu...@jc...> - 2013-07-10 18:37:13
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All - Bad news: We did not get placed this year. We need to work up a plan B. The gates open 25 August 1800, so we could reasonably expect to get a camp set up by Monday afternoon. The question is how to deploy sites without early arrival passes and have them up in time to do anything useful. All ideas welcome. -- David |
From: Harvind S. <ha...@ra...> - 2013-07-11 04:35:45
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Three options: 1) Run a smaller network of 2-3 nodes. 2) Friend-up with a camp that did get placement 3) Bail for this year. On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:37 AM, David A. Burgess wrote: > All - > > Bad news: We did not get placed this year. We need to work up a plan B. > > The gates open 25 August 1800, so we could reasonably expect to get a camp set up by Monday afternoon. The question is how to deploy sites without early arrival passes and have them up in time to do anything useful. > > All ideas welcome. > > -- David > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Openbts-bm2009 mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbts-bm2009 Harvind Samra Founder, VP Engineering Range Networks San Francisco, CA ____________________________________________ Cellular networks made simple and affordable. http://www.rangenetworks.com ____________________________________________ |
From: Mark P. <mar...@ra...> - 2013-07-11 18:09:42
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Hi if we do 1, maybe use sector antennas and have 3 BTS at each site do we know if plyatel have received placement information but any way this just mean that setting up at RELIF get that more important -- Best regards Mark Petersen Range Networks, Inc. Cell: +45 40 52 62 73 ====================================================================== Making cellular networks simple and affordable. http://www.rangenetworks.com ====================================================================== On 10 Jul, 2013, at 21:35 , Harvind Samra wrote: > Three options: > > 1) Run a smaller network of 2-3 nodes. > > 2) Friend-up with a camp that did get placement > > 3) Bail for this year. > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:37 AM, David A. Burgess wrote: > >> All - >> >> Bad news: We did not get placed this year. We need to work up a plan B. >> >> The gates open 25 August 1800, so we could reasonably expect to get a camp set up by Monday afternoon. The question is how to deploy sites without early arrival passes and have them up in time to do anything useful. >> >> All ideas welcome. >> >> -- David >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics >> Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics >> Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. >> Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Openbts-bm2009 mailing list >> Ope...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbts-bm2009 > > Harvind Samra > Founder, VP Engineering > Range Networks > San Francisco, CA > ____________________________________________ > > Cellular networks made simple and affordable. > http://www.rangenetworks.com > ____________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk_______________________________________________ > Openbts-bm2009 mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbts-bm2009 |
From: Peter K. <pe...@me...> - 2013-07-11 18:32:58
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Hi Mark, Yes, we were placed, but not near center camp. We will be closer to where you guys were last year. We have the Ambulance and also a second ambiulance with masts that can be used. I would suggest that you pre-stage your gear so that it can be mounted on the ambulance, or we also have a hand push up mast that has a base plate that you roll a car onto, and from there you can raise the mast 30 feet by hand. That would be ideal to work with something you guys might put in one of your own vehicles, using the mast for easy and quick set up. Best Regards, Pete C 415-283-8374 ________________________________________ From: Mark Petersen [mar...@ra...] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:09 AM To: Harvind Samra Cc: David A. Burgess; ope...@li... Papa Legba Mailing List Subject: Re: [Legba2013] bad news on placement Hi if we do 1, maybe use sector antennas and have 3 BTS at each site do we know if plyatel have received placement information but any way this just mean that setting up at RELIF get that more important -- Best regards Mark Petersen [cid:1B35AD6B-751B-403B-8B33-350053CE62A7] Range Networks, Inc. Cell: +45 40 52 62 73 ====================================================================== Making cellular networks simple and affordable. http://www.rangenetworks.com ====================================================================== On 10 Jul, 2013, at 21:35 , Harvind Samra wrote: Three options: 1) Run a smaller network of 2-3 nodes. 2) Friend-up with a camp that did get placement 3) Bail for this year. On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:37 AM, David A. Burgess wrote: All - Bad news: We did not get placed this year. We need to work up a plan B. The gates open 25 August 1800, so we could reasonably expect to get a camp set up by Monday afternoon. The question is how to deploy sites without early arrival passes and have them up in time to do anything useful. All ideas welcome. -- David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Openbts-bm2009 mailing list Ope...@li...<mailto:Ope...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbts-bm2009 Harvind Samra Founder, VP Engineering Range Networks San Francisco, CA ____________________________________________ Cellular networks made simple and affordable. http://www.rangenetworks.com<http://www.rangenetworks.com/> ____________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk_______________________________________________ Openbts-bm2009 mailing list Ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbts-bm2009 Filtering provided by PixelRiver Technologies, LLC |
From: tim p. <th...@we...> - 2013-07-11 20:17:35
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So we should: Aim for fewer sites Prestage better Not spend time using the the playa net wifi if we can help it. On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like? Have we a core network switch chosen and configured? What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?) There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish. I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better, and even more in the spirit of the place. T. On 11 Jul 2013, at 19:33, Peter Killcommons <pe...@me...> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Yes, we were placed, but not near center camp. We will be closer to where you guys were last year. > > We have the Ambulance and also a second ambiulance with masts that can be used. > > I would suggest that you pre-stage your gear so that it can be mounted on the ambulance, or we also have a hand push up mast that has a base plate that you roll a car onto, and from there you can raise the mast 30 feet by hand. That would be ideal to work with something you guys might put in one of your own vehicles, using the mast for easy and quick set up. > > > Best Regards, > > Pete > C 415-283-8374 |
From: Peter K. <pe...@me...> - 2013-07-11 21:35:44
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BTW, This year we are Dusty Acres Embassy. Our camp is considerably smaller and our focus is on our mutant vehicles. We will not have any public comms. Best Regards, Pete C 415-283-8374 ________________________________________ From: tim panton [th...@we...] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:50 PM To: ope...@li... Subject: Re: [Legba2013] bad news on placement So we should: Aim for fewer sites Prestage better Not spend time using the the playa net wifi if we can help it. On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like? Have we a core network switch chosen and configured? What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?) There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish. I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better, and even more in the spirit of the place. T. On 11 Jul 2013, at 19:33, Peter Killcommons <pe...@me...> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Yes, we were placed, but not near center camp. We will be closer to where you guys were last year. > > We have the Ambulance and also a second ambiulance with masts that can be used. > > I would suggest that you pre-stage your gear so that it can be mounted on the ambulance, or we also have a hand push up mast that has a base plate that you roll a car onto, and from there you can raise the mast 30 feet by hand. That would be ideal to work with something you guys might put in one of your own vehicles, using the mast for easy and quick set up. > > > Best Regards, > > Pete > C 415-283-8374 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Openbts-bm2009 mailing list Ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbts-bm2009 Filtering provided by PixelRiver Technologies, LLC |
From: Peter S. <pe...@st...> - 2013-07-14 01:33:21
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tim panton wrote: > On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like? > Have we a core network switch chosen and configured? > > What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?) > > There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish. I thought about L2+L3 network things a few months ago and am still hoping to hear more about what hardware is easily available. So far Mark mentioned 4x Routerboard. I have a Carambola2 (AR9331 2.4GHz bgn) 0.5W system with 2 100Mbps ports which I'll prepare for battery operation; it could be access point and router between camp and the operations network. Neither Routerboard nor Carambola2 can really run any services however. We need at least one other battery operated system for that. I have one or two picoPSU which accept regulated 12V input and provide 90W ATX power, good for mini-ITX boards if they don't already have 12V input. The question I still have is what to run where how. A VPN is easy to create any time but I think it makes most sense once we have a bit more network overview/plan.. For central services it comes back to what hardware we can build with. > I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better +1 though not in the sense that we refuse anyone who would like to play. //Peter |
From: David A. B. <dbu...@jc...> - 2013-07-14 05:23:50
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Mark and I were discussing this last night. I think we can cover most of BRC from 2 40' masts with 2 sectors on each, especially if we run in the 900 band. That's one mast on the 9:00 side and one on the 3:00 side. I say this because last year we were reaching the man from 4:20 & D on a 30' mast with an omni. We can get those up pretty fast with a boom truck, if we can borrow one, but we will need to package some 10W or 50W rack-mount units for outdoor installation. We can also bring a couple of omni push-up masts for extra coverage, like at the airport. On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Harvind Samra <ha...@ra...> wrote: > Three options: > > 1) Run a smaller network of 2-3 nodes. > > 2) Friend-up with a camp that did get placement > > 3) Bail for this year. > |
From: Peter S. <pe...@st...> - 2013-07-14 19:39:38
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David A. Burgess wrote: > Mark and I were discussing this last night. I think we can cover > most of BRC from 2 40' masts with 2 sectors on each, especially if > we run in the 900 band. This sounds really reasonable. > That's one mast on the 9:00 side and one on the 3:00 side. 8:00 and 4:00 on D or E seems like it would be ideal. That's unreserved space so we could try to put Papa Legba at 8 and maybe ask Pete if we could put the other mast behind his camp? > We can also bring a couple of omni push-up masts for extra > coverage, like at the airport. Sounds good. //Peter |
From: David A. B. <dbu...@jc...> - 2013-07-14 05:35:30
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Tim - On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:50 PM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote: > So we should: > Aim for fewer sites > Prestage better > Not spend time using the the playa net wifi if we can help it. Mark and I were thinking 2 2-sector sites on 40' masts, one on each side of town. And we can use a couple of those army masts for fill in if we have time. > > On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like? > Have we a core network switch chosen and configured? Mark and Diggz and I discussed the network this week and were thinking to use Yate for the main switch and Tropo for all of the applications. (Yate would be configured to route application extensions to Tropo.) > What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?) I don't know what to do with ATT users. I think we'll provision everyone else by IVR or text, with text being preferred. But we may just continue to block ATT users just to avoid any hint of trouble from Commnet. > > There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish. Yes. Mark is staging the network in SF this coming week. The rule is that nothing goes to Burning Man that doesn't run and JFIX/RELIEF in the first week of August. And nothing runs at JFIX/RELIEF that doesn't get staged in SF this month. > > I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better, and even more in the spirit > of the place. I agree. > > T. |
From: tim p. <th...@we...> - 2013-07-15 06:21:44
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On 14 Jul 2013, at 06:35, "David A. Burgess" <dbu...@jc...> wrote: > Tim - > > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:50 PM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote: > >> So we should: >> Aim for fewer sites >> Prestage better >> Not spend time using the the playa net wifi if we can help it. > > Mark and I were thinking 2 2-sector sites on 40' masts, one on each side of town. And we can use a couple of those army masts for fill in if we have time. > Cool. >> >> On which note, do we have plans on what the software config will look like? >> Have we a core network switch chosen and configured? > > Mark and Diggz and I discussed the network this week and were thinking to use Yate for the main switch and Tropo for all of the applications. (Yate would be configured to route application extensions to Tropo.) Sounds good - do we have suitable 64bit 12v hardware to install tropo on ? (I have a 32bit atom but I can't get that to RELIEF in time). What about outgoing calls - are we planning to do the NAT-4-Phones thing ? If so, can we agree a caller id format etc in advance please ? > > >> What's our decision on how we plan to provision users (inc ATT users?) > > I don't know what to do with ATT users. I think we'll provision everyone else by IVR or text, with text being preferred. But we may just continue to block ATT users just to avoid any hint of trouble from Commnet. I still like the idea of being able to 'bless' ATT phones, but I suppose handing out SIMs may help. > >> >> There was talk of a test VPN springing up soonish. > > Yes. Mark is staging the network in SF this coming week. The rule is that nothing goes to Burning Man that doesn't run and JFIX/RELIEF in the first week of August. And nothing runs at JFIX/RELIEF that doesn't get staged in SF this month. Great - please add a 64bit box for tropo and I'll try and get stuff installed on it from over here. > >> >> I'd be happy if we served fewer users and did it better, and even more in the spirit >> of the place. > > I agree. > >> >> T. > |
From: tim p. <th...@we...> - 2013-07-29 17:39:43
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I have 2 spare tickets (long story). I get the feeling we may have more than we need . Should I be putting them back into the secure ticket exchange ? The deadline for that is tomorrow . T. |
From: David A. B. <dbu...@jc...> - 2013-07-29 19:00:07
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Tim - Does anyone know if tickets are generally available through STEP right now? If so, we should probably put all uncommitted tickets into the program. Worst case, we end up buying them back. -- David On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:39 AM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote: > I have 2 spare tickets (long story). > I get the feeling we may have more than we need . > Should I be putting them back into the secure ticket exchange ? > The deadline for that is tomorrow . > > T. > |
From: Kurtis H. <khe...@cs...> - 2013-07-29 19:01:51
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I don't think we can assume we'd get a shot at getting them back, they just go into a sales pool right? On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:59 AM, David A. Burgess <dbu...@jc...> wrote: > Tim - > > Does anyone know if tickets are generally available through STEP right > now? If so, we should probably put all uncommitted tickets into the > program. Worst case, we end up buying them back. > > -- David > > On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:39 AM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote: > > > I have 2 spare tickets (long story). > > I get the feeling we may have more than we need . > > Should I be putting them back into the secure ticket exchange ? > > The deadline for that is tomorrow . > > > > T. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your SQL database under version control now! > Version control is standard for application code, but databases havent > caught up. So what steps can you take to put your SQL databases under > version control? Why should you start doing it? Read more to find out. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=49501711&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Openbts-bm2009 mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbts-bm2009 > |
From: David A. B. <dbu...@jc...> - 2013-07-29 19:04:02
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Well, we might not buy back the exact same tickets, but they are mostly fungible. On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Kurtis Heimerl <khe...@cs...> wrote: > I don't think we can assume we'd get a shot at getting them back, they just go into a sales pool right? > > > |
From: Kurtis H. <khe...@cs...> - 2013-07-29 19:06:12
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Low chance of them selling all of the tickets? On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:03 AM, David A. Burgess <dbu...@jc...> wrote: > > Well, we might not buy back the exact same tickets, but they are mostly > fungible. > > On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Kurtis Heimerl <khe...@cs...> > wrote: > > I don't think we can assume we'd get a shot at getting them back, they > just go into a sales pool right? > > > > > |
From: tim p. <th...@we...> - 2013-07-29 19:44:01
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On 29 Jul 2013, at 20:03, "David A. Burgess" <dbu...@jc...> wrote: > > Well, we might not buy back the exact same tickets, but they are mostly fungible. > > On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Kurtis Heimerl <khe...@cs...> wrote: > >> I don't think we can assume we'd get a shot at getting them back, they just go into a sales pool right? >> >> >> > I think the whole step program closes down (both buy and sell). T. |
From: David A. B. <dbu...@jc...> - 2013-07-29 19:51:36
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Crap, I think you are correct. On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:44 PM, tim panton <th...@we...> wrote: >> >> > I think the whole step program closes down (both buy and sell). > > T. |