[Omail-devel] Re: [Omail-news] omail-webmail: what next?

[Hans-Chr. J. <hc...@je...>]

Hello, bonjour Olivier

I have approx. 70 users running on omail-webmail, all being satisfied wit=
h
it. It serves it's purposes very well.

I have been experimenting with an IMAP server, mainly for giving access t=
o
my users through IMAP from e.g. Outlook and such (I have installed binc-i=
map
and it seems to work very well).

Up comes the question of putting a web interface for IMAP on the computer=
.
Why? To gain the folders functionallity along with storing the mail on th=
e
server when accessing from the web.
I will also admit that I have been looking (a little) at squirrelmail for
this purpose.

If You decide to concentrate on other things in your life (projects among=
st
others :-) I do understand and it is not like we're left without
alternatives. I do also agree with you on the other issues You've brought
up, except the one about omail-webmail being difficult to install :-)

I will probably keep omail-webmail running for quite a while (If it aint
broke, dont fix it :-), but looking for alternatives might be an activity
for the future :-)

I run a setup with qmail, vmailmgr, omail-admin, ospam, spamassassin,
binc-imap and omail-webmail. It all works well together.

I have been very happy with omail-admin (I hope very much that you will
continue development on this), since it has allowed me to run 20 domains,
without having to mess with the day to day issues. The users and their
administrators do all this them selves.

I have also been very happy with ospam so far. I'm running 0.01, and it
works :-)

The most dificult thing was to get spamassassin to work with the database=
,
from there on it was fairly easy :-)

I am unfortunately not in a position to takeover the project my self, or
even to contribute to the project. I'm just a user :-)

Anyway - Thanx for all the time you've put in. Hopefully you've got a lot=
 of
experience and FUN out of it.

Best regards and deep respect

Hans-Chr. Jehg

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Olivier Mueller" <om-...@om...>
To: "omail-devel" <oma...@li...>; "omail-news"
<oma...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:00 PM
Subject: [Omail-news] omail-webmail: what next?


> Hello, bonjour!
>
> Since a few months I'm wondering what to do with the
> omail-webmail project: should it be continued or
> stopped? This is what I'd like to ask you (the =3D~ 200
> people one these lists).
>
> The main concern I had 4 years ago, when I started
> omail-webmail (forked from the Neomail project) was speed
> & performance (& fun :) : it was then the case with direct
> Maildir access compared to complex access via imap.
> Openwebmail continued on this way for "mbox-based" accounts
> (www.openwebmail.org), with many nice features, while
> omail-webmail stayed a bit behind: there are many
> features missing, especially folders support and
> decoding of base64-encoded mails to name just two of them.
>
> But omail-webmail is now old and IMHO not secure
> enough for "serious" hosting (it even came on bugtraq last year:
> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/334056 and there
> are probably other security issues): I belive that
> running a suidperl based CGI is not the best solution
> nowadays. Other problem: the installation is still quite
> complex (check the ML archive :).
>
>
> Today it's easier to setup qmail + vmailmgr + courier-imap
> and an imap-based webmail like squirrelmail than the
> same with omail-webmail, there are even automated tools to
> do that (cf freshmeat). And it's safer for the server too:
> no more suidperl, and PHP is quite standard now too.
> I remember that it wasn't the case 3-4 years ago, with
> IMP/horde setup and uw-imapd libraries, etc.
>
> So the question is: what next? :-)  Are there still
> people/servers using omail-webmail?
>
>
> >From a personal point of view, I think I'd rather concentrate
> on other open source projects (omail-admin, ospam: spam
> fighing add-on for qmail+vmailmgr, and phpmyadmin) than
> spending more time on omail-webmail, trying to reinvent the
> wheel and implement weird things (MIME support, attachments
> decoding, folders support etc) which are already nicely
> programmed elsewhere (squirrel, IMP, etc.). Or are
> there people around willing to continue de developement
> of omail-webmail?
>
>
> All my customers are still using omail-webmail, so
> in any case I will have to find a solution anyway :).  Now
> I'm thinking about an automated transition to
> squirrelmail, with scripts to (server-wide) convert
> omail's pseudo folders to courier-imap compatible IMAP
> folders, and if possible do the same with the addressbook.
> Maybe you even already coded something like that?
>
>
> Feedback welcome!  It was fun working with you :-)
>
> Regards,
> Olivier
> --=20
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