Re: [Omail-devel] omail-webmail: what next?
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From: Jim W. <ji...@tv...> - 2004-03-18 18:35:58
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Personally, just my two cents I would love to see this project dropped and more time put into building up oMail Admin, but I'm being selfish in this respect I know. ;) We love oMail Admin. Thanks all, Jim TVCNet.com On 3/17/04 11:02 PM, "Carter Smithhart" <der...@de...> wrote: > Olivier, > > Yes, it does seem that omail-webmail is in need of a change of > something. > > I'd just like to point out that one of the special features that > omail-webmail has that other webmail packages don't seem to have is the > sheer number of translations. > > Here are a few ideas that I've had which may or may not revitalize the > project: > - Implement omail-webmail using Template Toolkit (bugzilla uses it) to > allow easier separation of code and UI. This allows a non-programmer to > modify the UI without having to change the logic that drives the app. > - Rewrite omail-webmail using the perl MailTool library. This would > allow omail-webmail to access imap, pop3, maildir, mbox, MH, and Outlook > Express (dbx) folders all at the same time or per user. > > I also question whether or not webmail-omail has a future with products > such as squirrelmail being available, so I am curious to know what other > users of webmail-omail think. > > Carter > > > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 14:00, Olivier Mueller wrote: >> Hello, bonjour! >> >> Since a few months I'm wondering what to do with the >> omail-webmail project: should it be continued or >> stopped? This is what I'd like to ask you (the =~ 200 >> people one these lists). >> >> The main concern I had 4 years ago, when I started >> omail-webmail (forked from the Neomail project) was speed >> & performance (& fun :) : it was then the case with direct >> Maildir access compared to complex access via imap. >> Openwebmail continued on this way for "mbox-based" accounts >> (www.openwebmail.org), with many nice features, while >> omail-webmail stayed a bit behind: there are many >> features missing, especially folders support and >> decoding of base64-encoded mails to name just two of them. >> >> But omail-webmail is now old and IMHO not secure >> enough for "serious" hosting (it even came on bugtraq last year: >> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/334056 and there >> are probably other security issues): I belive that >> running a suidperl based CGI is not the best solution >> nowadays. Other problem: the installation is still quite >> complex (check the ML archive :). >> >> >> Today it's easier to setup qmail + vmailmgr + courier-imap >> and an imap-based webmail like squirrelmail than the >> same with omail-webmail, there are even automated tools to >> do that (cf freshmeat). And it's safer for the server too: >> no more suidperl, and PHP is quite standard now too. >> I remember that it wasn't the case 3-4 years ago, with >> IMP/horde setup and uw-imapd libraries, etc. >> >> So the question is: what next? :-) Are there still >> people/servers using omail-webmail? >> >> >>> From a personal point of view, I think I'd rather concentrate >> on other open source projects (omail-admin, ospam: spam >> fighing add-on for qmail+vmailmgr, and phpmyadmin) than >> spending more time on omail-webmail, trying to reinvent the >> wheel and implement weird things (MIME support, attachments >> decoding, folders support etc) which are already nicely >> programmed elsewhere (squirrel, IMP, etc.). Or are >> there people around willing to continue de developement >> of omail-webmail? >> >> >> All my customers are still using omail-webmail, so >> in any case I will have to find a solution anyway :). Now >> I'm thinking about an automated transition to >> squirrelmail, with scripts to (server-wide) convert >> omail's pseudo folders to courier-imap compatible IMAP >> folders, and if possible do the same with the addressbook. >> Maybe you even already coded something like that? >> >> >> Feedback welcome! It was fun working with you :-) >> >> Regards, >> Olivier > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Omail-devel mailing list > Oma...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/omail-devel > |