Re: [Ogoglio-developers] moving forward..

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Hi,

* Lighting: not very useful in event halls but will be for a town like Ogoglio City

* java-script interpreter: Ogoglio has one for Ogoglio-server for adding behavior to objects but here it is about Java 6 distri kit which provides off-the-shelf java-script interpreter capability to be embedded in Java code, enabling users to "customize"/add functionality on top of existing Java code .. which in the case of Ogoglio could also be for other modules such as the viewer

* In event halls one can imagine that people there will share .. viewing presentations for instance .. it seems to be a core need for Transmutable but also for any Ogoglio-based solution. Sure one will admit that presos are better in conventional 2D but in event halls and similar places the guys are there in 3D

* Map: sure it's not needed for spaces small as event halls but .. I remember you'll bring up someday the Ogoglio City online -- many streets, strange places, people, ... better for the visitors to find their way easily through a map

* Diagramming software: do you know about an open source one, or free one ?

Thanks again,
-michel

> Message du 20/02/08 01:47
> De : "Ian Smith" 
> A : "Michel DENIS" 
> Copie à : ogo...@li...
> Objet : Re: [Ogoglio-developers] moving forward..
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>           Thanks for the questions, answers are inline.
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>     1- how do one has to implement a world which, like the real one, contains shadows, sunlight and moving clouds ?
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  At the moment, the viewer doesn't have much support for any of this.  We have talked about how to do more complex lighting models--and believe we have a decent solution--but that is at least going to wait until the next major release.
>     2- voice comms: i seem to remember that currently Skype is supported- please could you tell how to do it ?
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  Right-click on another person's avatar. If they have the skype attribute set in their profile, it will launch skype via the browser.
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>  3- can we use the "embedded java-script" of Java 6 (I don't mean the Ogoglio java-script API) to call Ogoglio's Java API's ? If yes, how ?
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  Not sure what you mean here.  We supply a standard java-script interpreter with ogoglio-server that runs on the server side.  It's bog-standard so there should not be compatibility problems.
>     4- what do you suggest as easiest way to show Powerpoint/Word/Excel/PDF documents inworld (ie on a 3D arbitrarily-chosen billboard) ?
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  Well, this is a short answer to a long story.  1) We don't think you should normally try to show 2D content in a 3D space--it's usually better for all concerned to get the 2D content via the "normal" web browser route since it is easier to read, well supported, etc. 2) We do have a "slideshow" tool that is going to be available in the near future in a tomorrowspace rented hall.  So, if you are determined to ignore #1 and you rent a hall from us, there is a way to show a set of slides (which can be derived from PPT, word, whatever).
>     5- is there any way to "share" such documents (like Wonderland enables, for instance .. ie multiple inworld users can edit documents simultaneously) ?
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  Not at the moment.  This is a good app for you to work on! :-)
>     6- when a space becomes complex (but not 'heavy') and large, do you have any plan or suggestion to enable visitors to get a "map" where the landscape, the other users and themselves are pictured -- and then enabling users to click on a point to get teleported to these coordinates ?
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  Our spaces tend to be small enough to not need this feature.  We use URLs to navigate on the large (global) scale.  
>     7- (untested) when a ground/terrain is not flat but like a hill or mountain, will the bodies move up and down accordingly ?
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  Yes this works already. There is a very weak notion of "gravity".
>     8- i would like to try better understanding the full Ogogolio Java code (which does not have many inline comments) -- do you know of any existing free   plugin or software which can e.g. make workflow diagrams of your full Java code, or something similar ?
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  This is an absolutely fair criticism (the state of the source code) and one that we would like to rectify.  However, our current product roll-out won't allow this for a while.  If you want to run diagramming software or other tools against our codebase, we'd be glad to post the results on our sourceforge site.
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>  hope this helps,
>  ian
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