Re: [Ogoglio-developers] Sketchup (1) - Avatars (2) - Spatial sound (3)

[Michel D. <mic...@or...>]

Hello Ian and Trevor ..=20

* Yes sure I am fully, and only, on Ogoglio for the my own VW environments,=
 using Sketchup for the modeling (and the galactical Google 3D Warehouse fo=
r OTS art .. license conditions imposed by Google to art uploaders are more=
 than ideal for us, even for commercial projects.. you might be interested =
to read the very special and slightly obscure TOS). And yes my intention is=
 to contribute back as CC or Apache entities. I look forward to more synerg=
y with you.

* Thanks-- I'll do with the OBJ art and the avatar models (Joe seems to be =
a nice guy) when available, and keep you posted about events. For the time =
being I guess I should export the OBJ's all triangulated and without double=
 faces. But let's see ...

* Regarding sound .. am just suddenly thinking at voice comms in general, w=
hich could be interesting on top of chat comms--
apart from the Java Voice Bridge I have not research this--:=C2=A0 https://=
jvoicebridge.dev.java.net/
What do you think ? Unfortunately it is not a standard web tool, though OS,=
 but it exists and works quite well today.

* Regarding spatial sound there seems to be "harder ways" using javascripts=
 I suppose .. I bought the big book you recommended ... i mean objects' scr=
ipts can define areas with increasing/decreasing sound volumes based on the=
 distance, which would influence avatars and their holders through web tool=
s ...

* BTW do you have any new thoughts about the use of Java @client level ? Fo=
r instance Wonderland is going to leave Java3D and move to JMonkeyEngine fo=
r rendering- see http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=3D35docum=
ent.write (BT_SUBMIT);envoyer979&tstart=3D0

Thanks again!
-michel


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> Message du 29/01/08 22:38
> De : "Ian Smith"=20
> A : "Michel DENIS" , ogo...@li...
> Copie =C3=A0 :=20
> Objet : Re: [Ogoglio-developers] Sketchup (1) - Avatars (2) - Spatial sou=
nd (3)
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>        These are all good questions.=C2=A0 I'll try to take a stab at it,=
 although Trevor has been doing most of the avatar-related stuff on Transmu=
table.
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>  1) I believe we can handle pretty much anything in OBJ format, provided =
it stays under our limit in terms of total file size.=C2=A0 I believe that =
the system currently imposes a 1 megabyte limit on OBJ files.=C2=A0 Once yo=
u get your avatar model done (see #2) then we should talk about how to insu=
re that your server exports them properly so that web browsers will see the=
m.=C2=A0 There is also some work to do if you would like to have the animat=
ions (which are BVH form) work properly with your avatar.=C2=A0 I'd say fir=
st get the modeling done (the hard part!) and then the rest you can copy fr=
om our examples.
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>  2)=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ogoglio will be getting some new avatars in the next coup=
le of weeks.=C2=A0 Early pictures of "joe" the male avatar are already avai=
lable:
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>  http://blog.transmutable.com/2008/01/hey-joe.html
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>  These will be CC licensed, so it should not be too onerous to use.
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>  3) We currently have no "built-in" story for how to do sound in a space.=
=C2=A0 This has to be done by other web-based means at the moment.=C2=A0 We=
 have experimented successfully with getting audio streams played into a sp=
ace, but this is not generally available.=C2=A0 If you have ideas of web-ba=
sed systems that can support this type of functionality, please let us know=
.
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>  hope this helps
>  ian
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>  Michel DENIS wrote:    Hi!
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>  I would like to ask 3 questions:
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>  - I have started to make models with the very user-friendly Google Sketc=
hup -- do you have any best practices or recommendations for importing Goog=
le Sketchup models (exported in OBJ format) into Ogoglio ?
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>  - The set of Ogoglio avatars is pretty limited today -- I'd like to crea=
te more of them-- do you have guidelines/tricks/sources for us making addit=
ional ones ?
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>  - "Spatial sound": what's the best way to get "spatial sound" in an Ogog=
lio space/world, ie sound whose volume depends on distance from sources (I =
guess one would need to java-script something or so) ?
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>  Thanks in advance !
>  -michel
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