From: Michel D. <mic...@or...> - 2008-01-29 22:27:04
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Hello Ian and Trevor ..=20 * Yes sure I am fully, and only, on Ogoglio for the my own VW environments,= using Sketchup for the modeling (and the galactical Google 3D Warehouse fo= r OTS art .. license conditions imposed by Google to art uploaders are more= than ideal for us, even for commercial projects.. you might be interested = to read the very special and slightly obscure TOS). And yes my intention is= to contribute back as CC or Apache entities. I look forward to more synerg= y with you. * Thanks-- I'll do with the OBJ art and the avatar models (Joe seems to be = a nice guy) when available, and keep you posted about events. For the time = being I guess I should export the OBJ's all triangulated and without double= faces. But let's see ... * Regarding sound .. am just suddenly thinking at voice comms in general, w= hich could be interesting on top of chat comms-- apart from the Java Voice Bridge I have not research this--:=C2=A0 https://= jvoicebridge.dev.java.net/ What do you think ? Unfortunately it is not a standard web tool, though OS,= but it exists and works quite well today. * Regarding spatial sound there seems to be "harder ways" using javascripts= I suppose .. I bought the big book you recommended ... i mean objects' scr= ipts can define areas with increasing/decreasing sound volumes based on the= distance, which would influence avatars and their holders through web tool= s ... * BTW do you have any new thoughts about the use of Java @client level ? Fo= r instance Wonderland is going to leave Java3D and move to JMonkeyEngine fo= r rendering- see http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=3D35docum= ent.write (BT_SUBMIT);envoyer979&tstart=3D0 Thanks again! -michel =20 =20 =20 > Message du 29/01/08 22:38 > De : "Ian Smith"=20 > A : "Michel DENIS" , ogo...@li... > Copie =C3=A0 :=20 > Objet : Re: [Ogoglio-developers] Sketchup (1) - Avatars (2) - Spatial sou= nd (3) >=20 > These are all good questions.=C2=A0 I'll try to take a stab at it,= although Trevor has been doing most of the avatar-related stuff on Transmu= table. > =20 > 1) I believe we can handle pretty much anything in OBJ format, provided = it stays under our limit in terms of total file size.=C2=A0 I believe that = the system currently imposes a 1 megabyte limit on OBJ files.=C2=A0 Once yo= u get your avatar model done (see #2) then we should talk about how to insu= re that your server exports them properly so that web browsers will see the= m.=C2=A0 There is also some work to do if you would like to have the animat= ions (which are BVH form) work properly with your avatar.=C2=A0 I'd say fir= st get the modeling done (the hard part!) and then the rest you can copy fr= om our examples. > =20 > 2)=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ogoglio will be getting some new avatars in the next coup= le of weeks.=C2=A0 Early pictures of "joe" the male avatar are already avai= lable: > =20 > http://blog.transmutable.com/2008/01/hey-joe.html > =20 > These will be CC licensed, so it should not be too onerous to use. > =20 > 3) We currently have no "built-in" story for how to do sound in a space.= =C2=A0 This has to be done by other web-based means at the moment.=C2=A0 We= have experimented successfully with getting audio streams played into a sp= ace, but this is not generally available.=C2=A0 If you have ideas of web-ba= sed systems that can support this type of functionality, please let us know= . > =20 > hope this helps > ian > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Michel DENIS wrote: Hi! > =20 > I would like to ask 3 questions: > =20 > - I have started to make models with the very user-friendly Google Sketc= hup -- do you have any best practices or recommendations for importing Goog= le Sketchup models (exported in OBJ format) into Ogoglio ? > =20 > - The set of Ogoglio avatars is pretty limited today -- I'd like to crea= te more of them-- do you have guidelines/tricks/sources for us making addit= ional ones ? > =20 > - "Spatial sound": what's the best way to get "spatial sound" in an Ogog= lio space/world, ie sound whose volume depends on distance from sources (I = guess one would need to java-script something or so) ? > =20 > Thanks in advance ! > -michel > =20 -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Micros= oft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/dir= ect/01/ _______________________________________________ Ogoglio-develope= rs mailing list Ogo...@li... https://lists.sour= ceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ogoglio-developers =20 > -- /////////////////////////////////////////// It came to me then -- th= at every plan -- is a tiny prayer to father time. --DCFC //////////////////= //////////////////////// =20 |