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From: Janna H. <jan...@gm...> - 2011-05-31 14:21:28
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Hi George, Glad to see the appearance of the behavior ontology, it addresses a much needed gap and I will definitely plan to link the emotion ontology (EMO) to it for all the characteristic behaviors that typically accompany various emotional states. I have some small concerns -- which I will also raise on your tracker. Most of these depend on how you are going to define 'behavior' which I see is not defined yet, but I find the following don't immediately appear to me to be types of behavior? -- 'intelligence' and its children. Not only doesn't it seem to me to be a kind of behavior, but also not a kind of cognition (its immediate is-a parent). Don't we remain intelligent even if we are not thinking about anything? It seems rather a capability (disposition) than a behavior (process). -- Under 'emotional behavior' you have a few things that don't seem to fit e.g. 'pleasure', 'frustration', 'distress' -- these are rather feelings or emotions than they are behaviors, right? On the other hand some of the emotional behaviors, such as 'laughing behavior', 'crying behavior' and 'aggression behavior', fit very well. -- 'consciousness' also seems strange as a behavior, although I would admit to being tempted to agree with you that sleeping is a behavior (which you've labelled 'asleep'), I prefer its alternate appearance as 'sleeping behavior' than as a type of consciousness. We should perhaps try to meet (I'll be at WoMBO and ICBO, see you there?) to discuss the EMO--NBO bridging relations. Best wishes! Janna On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...> wrote: > > I suggest carrying this discussion on the obo-behavior list, and that George makes a formal announcement of NBO there. > > I agree re disorders: > http://code.google.com/p/behavior-ontology/issues/detail?id=2 > > Add any further issues here: > > http://code.google.com/p/behavior-ontology/issues/list > > I'll add the tracker link to the obo metadata page > > On May 30, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Barry Smith wrote: > >> George >> >> Janna Hastings brought to my attention your Neuro Behavior Ontology on Bioportal. This overlaps with work we have been doing in Buffalo and Geneva on Mental Disease Ontology >> http://www.jbiomedsem.com/content/1/1/10 >> and on Emotion Ontology (to be presented at ICBO) (see draft attached) funded by the Swiss Centre for Affective Sciences. >> >> Since behavior (taken to include cognition) is clearly a gigantic target, we are hoping that you will agree to collaborate, and that we can settle on a strategy for this as soon as possible. The first and most important question is: should the top level be, as you propose, >> >> behavior >> pathological behavior >> physiological behavior >> >> Already I can see problems from this choice, e.g. if 'cognition' is classified under the latter, but 'mental disorder' is classified under the former. >> >> Another question concerns the consistency with OGMS, >> >> http://code.google.com/p/ogms >> >> which we are trying to get established as the OBO Foundry standard for clinically related work, and which provides a precise meaning for 'disorder'. The issue relates to the fact that, on the OGMS view (and we believe on other generally accepted clinical views) a disorder is not a subtype of behavior. >> With greetings >> Barry >> <emonto_hastings_icbo2011.pdf> > > |
From: Peter M. <pet...@gm...> - 2010-08-08 23:06:14
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Yes, phenoscape behavior EQs are using (at least one) term from GO:BP. We requested a few new terms and revisions last summer, but I'm not sure if they have made it into the KB. Also agree we (not just phenoscape, but anyone using behavior in obo) need this question resolved. Peter On Aug 8, 2010, at 17:14, Hilmar Lapp wrote: > In Phenoscape we have a few annotations where the quality-bearing > entity is a behavior. These behaviors are categorized under > "biological process" in GO (I believe - Peter?), and hence should be > processes in the BFO sense (which I think is the correct > classification). > > However, if I recall correctly current opinion is that processes as > occurrents cannot bear qualities. Am I misunderstanding this, and if > not, how do we express behavioral phenotypes in EQ without violating > the BFO world view? > > -hilmar > -- > =========================================================== > : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- informatics.nescent.org : > =========================================================== > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by > > Make an app they can't live without > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge > http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Obo-phenotype mailing list > Obo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-phenotype |
From: Peter M. <pet...@gm...> - 2009-09-25 18:28:55
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Chris, Ethosource is a behavior ontology group (that grew out of the Cornell workshops). Several members have funding to develop an ethogram search tool that currently uses ABOcore. Try ethodata.org and follow the link at the bottom of the page. Judy and I have arranged to have someone from the Jackson Lab attend this meeting so OBO can be better represented. Peter On Sep 25, 2009, at 14:15, Chris Mungall wrote: > Hi Peter > > What's EthoSource? top hit on google seems to be a furniture store! > > On Sep 25, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Peter Midford wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> Ethosource will be meeting this weekend and I'm wondering if >> you have any news on the Mammalian Behaviour Ontology to share? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Peter >> >> Peter E. Midford >> Phenoscape Ontology Curator >> Pet...@gm... >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, >> CA >> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart >> your >> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market >> and stay >> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register >> now! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf >> _______________________________________________ >> Obo-behavior mailing list >> Obo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior >> > Peter E. Midford Phenoscape Ontology Curator Pet...@gm... |
From: Chris M. <cj...@be...> - 2009-09-25 18:15:44
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Hi Peter What's EthoSource? top hit on google seems to be a furniture store! On Sep 25, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Peter Midford wrote: > Hi Tim, > Ethosource will be meeting this weekend and I'm wondering if > you have any news on the Mammalian Behaviour Ontology to share? > > Thanks, > > Peter > > Peter E. Midford > Phenoscape Ontology Curator > Pet...@gm... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart > your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and > stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register > now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf > _______________________________________________ > Obo-behavior mailing list > Obo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior > |
From: Peter M. <pet...@gm...> - 2009-09-25 18:07:05
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Hi Tim, Ethosource will be meeting this weekend and I'm wondering if you have any news on the Mammalian Behaviour Ontology to share? Thanks, Peter Peter E. Midford Phenoscape Ontology Curator Pet...@gm... |
From: Lynn S. <lyn...@gm...> - 2009-08-31 09:12:32
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Hello Tim, Looking at the poster, I see the project is well developed. I noted some possible collaborative overlap with another ontology that may be helpful to your work. I work on the a project with the Genome Standards Consortium, called EnvO led by Norman Morrison, that may have a good overlap for the terms under your Emissions, Excretion node that may be helpful to you depending on the overlap. In Envo: the potentially helpful branch is: Envo: environmental matter which many children. EnvO is in OBO. Reading your poster, I also noted that you were looking towards disease models. Please let Warren and I know if we can be of assistance in your mouse model to human disease work for the Disease Ontology. Best, Lynn On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Tim Beck <t....@ha...> wrote: > The Mammalian Behaviour Ontology (MBO) will shortly be made available as > a collaborative ontology development project (through Web Protégé most > likely). We will email the obo-behavior list once we have this available. > > We are in the process of getting mouse behavioural experts on-board who > have previously been unaware of the OBO community, with a behaviour > ontology meeting expected for later this year. We hope to open up the > development of MBO to as wide an audience as possible. > > As explained on the poster (see > http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3565/version/1) the MBO builds > upon previous work of SABO/ABO and will include the behavioural > phenotypes defined by MP and relevant GO biological process behaviours. > > Regards, > Tim > > > Chris Mungall wrote: > > > > I included a link to Tim's ICBO poster on the Nature Precedings site > > below. The poster doesn't appear to include any download information. > > Tim, is the ontology available for public viewing yet? > > > > On Aug 11, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Shimoyama, Mary wrote: > > > >> Tim Beck already has a substantial behavior ontology. > >> > >> From: Chris Mungall [mailto:cj...@be...] > >> Sent: Tue 8/11/2009 6:00 PM > >> To: Obo...@li... > >> Cc: obo...@li... > >> Subject: [Obo-discuss] obo-behavior list > >> > >> We've created a new mail list: > >> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior > >> > >> The goal is to coordinate an ontology or ontologies for behavior, > >> including > >> > >> - mammalian behavior (see > >> http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3565/version/1 > >> and also > >> http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/Phat.cgi?id=MP:0005386) > >> - social insects > >> (http://bioontology.org/wiki/images/b/bd/ChristopherSmith.ppt > >> ) > >> - the behavior branch of GO > >> ( > http://amigo.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/amigo/browse.cgi?action=plus_node&target=GO:0007610&open_0=GO:0007610 > >> > >> ) > >> - SABO / ABO-core - see > >> http://ontogenesis.ontonet.org/moin/AnimalBehaviourOntologyDevelopment > >> > >> Members welcome, > >> > >> Cheers > >> Chris > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > >> 30-Day > >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > >> focus on > >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Obo-discuss mailing list > >> Obo...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > >> 30-Day > >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > >> focus on > >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > >> Crystal Reports now. > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ > >> > >> Obo-discuss mailing list > >> Obo...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss > > > > > This email may have a PROTECTIVE MARKING, for an explanation please see: > > http://www.mrc.ac.uk/About/Informationandstandards/Documentmarking/index.htm > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Obo-discuss mailing list > Obo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss > |
From: Tim B. <t....@ha...> - 2009-08-12 13:50:27
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The Mammalian Behaviour Ontology (MBO) will shortly be made available as a collaborative ontology development project (through Web Protégé most likely). We will email the obo-behavior list once we have this available. We are in the process of getting mouse behavioural experts on-board who have previously been unaware of the OBO community, with a behaviour ontology meeting expected for later this year. We hope to open up the development of MBO to as wide an audience as possible. As explained on the poster (see http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3565/version/1) the MBO builds upon previous work of SABO/ABO and will include the behavioural phenotypes defined by MP and relevant GO biological process behaviours. Regards, Tim Chris Mungall wrote: > > I included a link to Tim's ICBO poster on the Nature Precedings site > below. The poster doesn't appear to include any download information. > Tim, is the ontology available for public viewing yet? > > On Aug 11, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Shimoyama, Mary wrote: > >> Tim Beck already has a substantial behavior ontology. >> >> From: Chris Mungall [mailto:cj...@be...] >> Sent: Tue 8/11/2009 6:00 PM >> To: Obo...@li... >> Cc: obo...@li... >> Subject: [Obo-discuss] obo-behavior list >> >> We've created a new mail list: >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior >> >> The goal is to coordinate an ontology or ontologies for behavior, >> including >> >> - mammalian behavior (see >> http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3565/version/1 >> and also >> http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/Phat.cgi?id=MP:0005386) >> - social insects >> (http://bioontology.org/wiki/images/b/bd/ChristopherSmith.ppt >> ) >> - the behavior branch of GO >> (http://amigo.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/amigo/browse.cgi?action=plus_node&target=GO:0007610&open_0=GO:0007610 >> >> ) >> - SABO / ABO-core - see >> http://ontogenesis.ontonet.org/moin/AnimalBehaviourOntologyDevelopment >> >> Members welcome, >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 >> 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and >> focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >> _______________________________________________ >> Obo-discuss mailing list >> Obo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 >> 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and >> focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ >> >> Obo-discuss mailing list >> Obo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss > This email may have a PROTECTIVE MARKING, for an explanation please see: http://www.mrc.ac.uk/About/Informationandstandards/Documentmarking/index.htm |
From: Chris M. <cj...@be...> - 2009-08-12 00:06:37
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I included a link to Tim's ICBO poster on the Nature Precedings site below. The poster doesn't appear to include any download information. Tim, is the ontology available for public viewing yet? On Aug 11, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Shimoyama, Mary wrote: > Tim Beck already has a substantial behavior ontology. > > From: Chris Mungall [mailto:cj...@be...] > Sent: Tue 8/11/2009 6:00 PM > To: Obo...@li... > Cc: obo...@li... > Subject: [Obo-discuss] obo-behavior list > > We've created a new mail list: > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior > > The goal is to coordinate an ontology or ontologies for behavior, > including > > - mammalian behavior (see http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3565/version/1 > and also http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/Phat.cgi?id=MP:0005386) > - social insects (http://bioontology.org/wiki/images/b/bd/ChristopherSmith.ppt > ) > - the behavior branch of GO (http://amigo.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/amigo/browse.cgi?action=plus_node&target=GO:0007610&open_0=GO:0007610 > ) > - SABO / ABO-core - see http://ontogenesis.ontonet.org/moin/AnimalBehaviourOntologyDevelopment > > Members welcome, > > Cheers > Chris > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Obo-discuss mailing list > Obo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ > Obo-discuss mailing list > Obo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss |
From: Peter E. M. <pet...@ya...> - 2009-08-12 00:00:34
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Begin forwarded message: > From: Peter Midford <Pet...@gm...> > Date: August 11, 2009 18:57:35 CDT > To: "Shimoyama, Mary" <shi...@mc...> > Cc: obo...@li... > Subject: Re: [Obo-behavior] [Obo-discuss] obo-behavior list > > Yes, that's his poster in the Nature Proceedings link. I hope we'll > be hearing more about his effort in the fall. > > Peter > > On Aug 11, 2009, at 18:09, Shimoyama, Mary wrote: > >> Tim Beck already has a substantial behavior ontology. >> >> From: Chris Mungall [mailto:cj...@be...] >> Sent: Tue 8/11/2009 6:00 PM >> To: Obo...@li... >> Cc: obo...@li... >> Subject: [Obo-discuss] obo-behavior list >> >> We've created a new mail list: >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior >> >> The goal is to coordinate an ontology or ontologies for behavior, >> including >> >> - mammalian behavior (see http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3565/version/1 >> and also http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/Phat.cgi?id=MP:0005386) >> - social insects (http://bioontology.org/wiki/images/b/bd/ChristopherSmith.ppt >> ) >> - the behavior branch of GO (http://amigo.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/amigo/browse.cgi?action=plus_node&target=GO:0007610&open_0=GO:0007610 >> ) >> - SABO / ABO-core - see http://ontogenesis.ontonet.org/moin/AnimalBehaviourOntologyDevelopment >> >> Members welcome, >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >> 2008 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - >> and focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >> _______________________________________________ >> Obo-discuss mailing list >> Obo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >> 2008 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - >> and focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ >> Obo-behavior mailing list >> Obo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior > > Peter E. Midford > Mesquite Developer > Pet...@gm... > > > > -- Peter Midford Mesquite Developer |
From: Peter M. <pet...@gm...> - 2009-08-11 23:57:57
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Yes, that's his poster in the Nature Proceedings link. I hope we'll be hearing more about his effort in the fall. Peter On Aug 11, 2009, at 18:09, Shimoyama, Mary wrote: > Tim Beck already has a substantial behavior ontology. > > From: Chris Mungall [mailto:cj...@be...] > Sent: Tue 8/11/2009 6:00 PM > To: Obo...@li... > Cc: obo...@li... > Subject: [Obo-discuss] obo-behavior list > > We've created a new mail list: > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior > > The goal is to coordinate an ontology or ontologies for behavior, > including > > - mammalian behavior (see http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3565/version/1 > and also http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/Phat.cgi?id=MP:0005386) > - social insects (http://bioontology.org/wiki/images/b/bd/ChristopherSmith.ppt > ) > - the behavior branch of GO (http://amigo.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/amigo/browse.cgi?action=plus_node&target=GO:0007610&open_0=GO:0007610 > ) > - SABO / ABO-core - see http://ontogenesis.ontonet.org/moin/AnimalBehaviourOntologyDevelopment > > Members welcome, > > Cheers > Chris > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Obo-discuss mailing list > Obo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ > Obo-behavior mailing list > Obo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior Peter E. Midford Mesquite Developer Pet...@gm... |
From: Shimoyama, M. <shi...@mc...> - 2009-08-11 23:09:56
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Tim Beck already has a substantial behavior ontology. ________________________________ From: Chris Mungall [mailto:cj...@be...] Sent: Tue 8/11/2009 6:00 PM To: Obo...@li... Cc: obo...@li... Subject: [Obo-discuss] obo-behavior list We've created a new mail list: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior The goal is to coordinate an ontology or ontologies for behavior, including - mammalian behavior (see http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3565/version/1 and also http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/Phat.cgi?id=MP:0005386) - social insects (http://bioontology.org/wiki/images/b/bd/ChristopherSmith.ppt ) - the behavior branch of GO (http://amigo.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/amigo/browse.cgi?action=plus_node&target=GO:0007610&open_0=GO:0007610 ) - SABO / ABO-core - see http://ontogenesis.ontonet.org/moin/AnimalBehaviourOntologyDevelopment Members welcome, Cheers Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Obo-discuss mailing list Obo...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-discuss |
From: Chris M. <cj...@be...> - 2009-08-11 23:01:18
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We've created a new mail list: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-behavior The goal is to coordinate an ontology or ontologies for behavior, including - mammalian behavior (see http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3565/version/1 and also http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/Phat.cgi?id=MP:0005386) - social insects (http://bioontology.org/wiki/images/b/bd/ChristopherSmith.ppt ) - the behavior branch of GO (http://amigo.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/amigo/browse.cgi?action=plus_node&target=GO:0007610&open_0=GO:0007610 ) - SABO / ABO-core - see http://ontogenesis.ontonet.org/moin/AnimalBehaviourOntologyDevelopment Members welcome, Cheers Chris |