Re: [Obo-behavior] Behavior Ontology

[Janna H. <jan...@gm...>]

Hi George,

Glad to see the appearance of the behavior ontology, it addresses a
much needed gap and I will definitely plan to link the emotion
ontology (EMO) to it for all the characteristic behaviors that
typically accompany various emotional states.


I have some small concerns -- which I will also raise on your tracker.
 Most of these depend on how you are going to define 'behavior' which
I see is not defined yet, but I find the following don't immediately
appear to me to be types of behavior?

--  'intelligence' and its children.  Not only doesn't it seem to me
to be a kind of behavior, but also not a kind of cognition (its
immediate is-a parent).  Don't we remain intelligent even if we are
not thinking about anything?  It seems rather a capability
(disposition) than a behavior (process).

-- Under 'emotional behavior' you have a few things that don't seem to
fit e.g. 'pleasure', 'frustration', 'distress' -- these are rather
feelings or emotions than they are behaviors, right?  On the other
hand some of the emotional behaviors, such as 'laughing behavior',
'crying behavior' and 'aggression behavior', fit very well.

-- 'consciousness' also seems strange as a behavior, although I would
admit to being tempted to agree with you that sleeping is a behavior
(which you've labelled 'asleep'), I prefer its alternate appearance as
'sleeping behavior' than as a type of consciousness.


We should perhaps try to meet (I'll be at WoMBO and ICBO, see you
there?) to discuss the EMO--NBO bridging relations.

Best wishes!

Janna



On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...> wrote:
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> I suggest carrying this discussion on the obo-behavior list, and that George makes a formal announcement of NBO there.
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> I agree re disorders:
> http://code.google.com/p/behavior-ontology/issues/detail?id=2
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> Add any further issues here:
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> http://code.google.com/p/behavior-ontology/issues/list
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> I'll add the tracker link to the obo metadata page
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> On May 30, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Barry Smith wrote:
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>> George
>>
>> Janna Hastings brought to my attention your Neuro Behavior Ontology on Bioportal. This overlaps with work we have been doing in Buffalo and Geneva on Mental Disease Ontology
>> http://www.jbiomedsem.com/content/1/1/10
>> and on Emotion Ontology (to be presented at ICBO) (see draft attached) funded by the Swiss Centre for Affective Sciences.
>>
>> Since behavior (taken to include cognition) is clearly a gigantic target, we are hoping that you will agree to collaborate, and that we can settle on a strategy for this as soon as possible. The first and most important question is: should the top level be, as you propose,
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>> behavior
>>    pathological behavior
>>    physiological behavior
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>> Already I can see problems from this choice, e.g. if 'cognition' is classified under the latter, but 'mental disorder' is classified under the former.
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>> Another question concerns the consistency with OGMS,
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>> http://code.google.com/p/ogms
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>> which we are trying to get established as the OBO Foundry standard for clinically related work, and which provides a precise meaning for 'disorder'. The issue relates to the fact that, on the OGMS view (and we believe on other generally accepted clinical views) a disorder is not a subtype of behavior.
>> With greetings
>> Barry
>> <emonto_hastings_icbo2011.pdf>
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>