From: Hogan, W. R <WR...@ua...> - 2012-12-12 16:51:18
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The United States has been one entity since the Constitution was ratified. However, the territory it controls has undergone dramatic changes. We need one URI for the United States as a nation. We need a separate, distinct URI for its current territorial boundaries. My understanding is GAZ has the URI for the territory. We created a URI for the nation. Bill From: Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...<mailto:cjm...@lb...>> Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:47 AM To: William Hogan <WR...@ua...<mailto:WR...@ua...>> Cc: Mathias Brochhausen <MBr...@ua...<mailto:MBr...@ua...>>, OBO Environmental Ontology <obo...@li...<mailto:obo...@li...>>, Michael Ashburner <ma...@ge...<mailto:ma...@ge...>> Subject: Re: [obo-admin] OBO namespace ID and PURL [following up on obo-envo] I believe that in GAZ counties are purely administrative, but there are many cases where there are both administrative and non-administrative entities overlapping or occupying the same space. On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Hogan, William R wrote: When GAZ refers to Adams County, Colorado, is it referring to the organization or the territory? We need URI's for both. Nations declare war, you are located in geographical regions, but the two are different entities (nation vs. its territory). Bill From: Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...<mailto:cjm...@lb...>> Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:34 AM To: William Hogan <WR...@ua...<mailto:WR...@ua...>> Cc: Mathias Brochhausen <MBr...@ua...<mailto:MBr...@ua...>>, "obo...@li...<mailto:obo...@li...>" <obo...@li...<mailto:obo...@li...>>, Melanie Courtot <mco...@gm...<mailto:mco...@gm...>>, "obo...@fr...<mailto:obo...@fr...>" <obo...@fr...<mailto:obo...@fr...>>, OBO Environmental Ontology <obo...@li...<mailto:obo...@li...>> Subject: Re: [obo-admin] OBO namespace ID and PURL ENVO has classes like rock, hill, mine, mountain, dirt, first-order administrative division, etc GAZ represents specific instances of these, like Iron Mountain Mine, USA, California, etc So I think you should use a combination of both. There a couple of issues with the OWL version of GAZ, we can follow up on the obo-envo list, you can subscribe here: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obo-envo On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Hogan, William R wrote: If you're referring to GAZ, the difference is that we are referring to geopolitical entities like nations, states etc. not the territory that they control. I've received emails in the past, that explicitly state GAZ is only talking about rocks, trees, hills, mountains, dirt, lakes, et cetera. Not the nations that own them. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 10:11 AM, "Chris Mungall" <cjm...@lb...<mailto:cjm...@lb...>> wrote: Why not just use the relevant subset of ENVO? Re: namespace although we only require uniqueness of ID space within OBO, I would discourage clashes with commonly used bioinformatics resources On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Brochhausen, Mathias wrote: Hi, To allow representation of geographical entities we have created a BFO-based ontology of geographical entities, GEO. We would like to ask for the OBO namespace GEO for the Geographical Entity Ontology. In addition, we ask for the following PURLs: http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/geo/ http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/geo.owl Here is the information about our ontology: Title: Geographical Entity Ontology - Short description: An ontology of geographical entities implemented in Web Ontology Language 2 (OWL2) and based on Basic Formal Ontology (BFO). The developers aim to adhere to the OBO Foundry principles. - Download link: https://ge-ontology.googlecode.com/svn/releases/2012-12-12/geo.owl - Home page: https://code.google.com/p/ge-ontology/ - Contact: Mathias Brochhausen (mbrochhausen) and Bill Hogan (hoganwr) Thanks, Mathias -- Mathias Brochhausen Ph.D. M.A. Assistant Professor Division of Biomedical Informatics University of Arkansas of Medical Sciences 4301 West Markham Slot #782 Little Rock, AR 72205 501.603.1765 (phone) 501.526.5964 (fax) Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. 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