number-format-developers — Developers of Number::Format

[Number::Format] New version1.60 of Number::Format

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

This fixes some major flaws in the locale handling for format_price
and adds a bunch of new locale-based formatting abilities for that
method.  The constructor new() is also restructured, and the test
suite has been converted to Test::More finally.

Please grab it from CPAN and give it a try, and let me know if you
have any problems.

Re: [Number::Format] Ideas for homepage?

[Darren C. <dl...@se...>]

Let's not forget the large variety of data out there already for all
CPAN modules, like RT, annocpan, CPAN ratings, and CPAN testers, and
the resources that SF provides, like the task tracker and mailing list
archives.  Most/all of these have RSS feeds that can be fetched and
put into a page or set of pages by a nightly cron job.  Even releases
-- SF has a per-project releases feed.

A first pass at a home page could be something that simply has a set
number of boxes on it, each of which is filled in with data from the
appropriate feed and regenerated nightly.

On 10/12/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
> I'm picking up the threads where they left off before the whole
> gmail/sourceforge mess.
>
> On 9/21/06, Jonas B. Nielsen <jo...@gm...> wrote:
> > Ok,
> >
> > What is the goal of Number::Format, when do we reach a final release?
>
> I don't think there is one.  I guess it's in maintenance mode - we add
> new features and fix bugs but I have no grand plans.  Anyone else have
> a vision for where it should go?
>
> > A Wiki is good for dispersed/complex documentation
> > A Web page is good for marketing (and linking everything together)
>
> Agreed.  A blog is also good if there's a lot of news coming out.
>
> > Currently we are dicussing a lot of things attempting to get
> > development running, so a homepage to get everything* linked together
> > would be a good start:
>
> OK, good plan.  How should we do the homepage?  I'm not feeling
> especially inspired to build a new HTML layout at the moment.  Should
> I install a wiki tool?  A blog tool?  Some other kind of tool?  Anyone
> want to volunteer to get this going?
>
> > But I think it is important that we get our roadmap outlined, so we
> > can decide in what information needs to be written and where.
> >
> > I see the following issues:
> >
> > - The rt.cpan.org issues
> > - Perl version backwards compability
> > - Refactoring the tests to Test::More
>
> Agreed.  There are also a couple of features documented in the
> sourceforge tracker.
>
> > And there is probably a few I have forgotten, but I have not had my
> > first coffee yet
> >
> > jonasbn
> >
> > *By everything I mean:
> >
> > rt.cpan.org
> > search.cpan.org
> > all of our sf.net goodies in a easily readable manner
>
> Sounds good to me.
>
>
> > On 22/09/2006, at 1.35, Bill Ward wrote:
> >
> > > Currently I have configured http://number-format.sf.net/ to just be a
> > > redirect to the project summary page, but we can do a lot more with
> > > it.  Ideas include:
> > >
> > > * Web pages
> > > * Blog
> > > * Wiki
> > > * Demo, like the one on http://www.bayview.com/perl/number-format-
> > > demo.cgi
> > > * Combination of the above
> > > * Other ideas?
> > >
> > > --Bill.
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Re: [Number::Format] testing

[Jonas B. N. <jo...@gm...>]

Got it too

jonasbn

On 12/10/2006, at 3.27, Darren Chamberlain wrote:

> On 10/11/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
>> After the recent problems between gmail and sourceforge I want to  
>> test
>> to see if this is working.  If you see this please send me a reply to
>> confirm that you got it.
>
> Got it.
>
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Re: [Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Jonas B. N. <jo...@gm...>]

Hi Guys,

Here is a link to the documentation:

http://sourceforge.net/docs/E04/#import

jonasbn

On 12/10/2006, at 13.56, Darren Chamberlain wrote:

> +1
>
> On 10/12/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
>> Unless there are no objections I will ask them to do this tomorrow.
>>
>> On 9/22/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
>>> We can ask the SF.net admins to rename the directory.  That's one of
>>> the things they're willing to do IIRC.
>>>
>>> On 9/22/06, Jonas B. Nielsen <jo...@gm...> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Well we could do one thing and that is take a snapshot of what we
>>>> have done so far on sf.net.
>>>>
>>>> Then we could import all of Bill Ward's CVS history into sf.net CVS
>>>> and then re-add our snapshot. This is a fairly well documented
>>>> procedure on sf.net and when we do it we can fix the renaming issue
>>>> and we would not loose much history apart from the commits made  on
>>>> sf.net CVS, which we would have to redo.
>>>>
>>>> It is a long road, but it is doable - I am doing the same thing for
>>>> the Workflow module any day know.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> jonasbn
>>>>
>>>> On 22/09/2006, at 2.33, Darren Chamberlain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> * Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> [2006/09/21 17:29]:
>>>>>> On 9/21/06, Darren Chamberlain <dl...@se...> wrote:
>>>>>>> I noticed this when I was doing the CVS checkout, and used  
>>>>>>> the -d
>>>>>>> option:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   $ cvs co -d Number-Format 'Number::Format'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that will be the best option, since we can't rename CVS
>>>>>>> modules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually the CVS module is named "perl" so maybe we could?
>>>>>
>>>>> We'd still need to do cvs add and cvs rm, which means that the  
>>>>> file
>>>>> histories would be lost.  It's definitely possible, of course.   
>>>>> You
>>>>> might also be able to get a SF admin to simply rename the
>>>>> Number::Format directory to Number-Format; one fo the nice  
>>>>> thing about
>>>>> CVS is that it's just files, so this will Just Work.
>>>>>
>>>>> (darren)
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Darren C. <dl...@se...>]

+1

On 10/12/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
> Unless there are no objections I will ask them to do this tomorrow.
>
> On 9/22/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
> > We can ask the SF.net admins to rename the directory.  That's one of
> > the things they're willing to do IIRC.
> >
> > On 9/22/06, Jonas B. Nielsen <jo...@gm...> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Well we could do one thing and that is take a snapshot of what we
> > > have done so far on sf.net.
> > >
> > > Then we could import all of Bill Ward's CVS history into sf.net CVS
> > > and then re-add our snapshot. This is a fairly well documented
> > > procedure on sf.net and when we do it we can fix the renaming issue
> > > and we would not loose much history apart from the commits made  on
> > > sf.net CVS, which we would have to redo.
> > >
> > > It is a long road, but it is doable - I am doing the same thing for
> > > the Workflow module any day know.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > jonasbn
> > >
> > > On 22/09/2006, at 2.33, Darren Chamberlain wrote:
> > >
> > > > * Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> [2006/09/21 17:29]:
> > > >> On 9/21/06, Darren Chamberlain <dl...@se...> wrote:
> > > >>> I noticed this when I was doing the CVS checkout, and used the -d
> > > >>> option:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   $ cvs co -d Number-Format 'Number::Format'
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I think that will be the best option, since we can't rename CVS
> > > >>> modules.
> > > >>
> > > >> Actually the CVS module is named "perl" so maybe we could?
> > > >
> > > > We'd still need to do cvs add and cvs rm, which means that the file
> > > > histories would be lost.  It's definitely possible, of course.  You
> > > > might also be able to get a SF admin to simply rename the
> > > > Number::Format directory to Number-Format; one fo the nice thing about
> > > > CVS is that it's just files, so this will Just Work.
> > > >
> > > > (darren)
> > >
> >
>

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Re: [Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

Unless there are no objections I will ask them to do this tomorrow.

On 9/22/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
> We can ask the SF.net admins to rename the directory.  That's one of
> the things they're willing to do IIRC.
>
> On 9/22/06, Jonas B. Nielsen <jo...@gm...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Well we could do one thing and that is take a snapshot of what we
> > have done so far on sf.net.
> >
> > Then we could import all of Bill Ward's CVS history into sf.net CVS
> > and then re-add our snapshot. This is a fairly well documented
> > procedure on sf.net and when we do it we can fix the renaming issue
> > and we would not loose much history apart from the commits made  on
> > sf.net CVS, which we would have to redo.
> >
> > It is a long road, but it is doable - I am doing the same thing for
> > the Workflow module any day know.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > jonasbn
> >
> > On 22/09/2006, at 2.33, Darren Chamberlain wrote:
> >
> > > * Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> [2006/09/21 17:29]:
> > >> On 9/21/06, Darren Chamberlain <dl...@se...> wrote:
> > >>> I noticed this when I was doing the CVS checkout, and used the -d
> > >>> option:
> > >>>
> > >>>   $ cvs co -d Number-Format 'Number::Format'
> > >>>
> > >>> I think that will be the best option, since we can't rename CVS
> > >>> modules.
> > >>
> > >> Actually the CVS module is named "perl" so maybe we could?
> > >
> > > We'd still need to do cvs add and cvs rm, which means that the file
> > > histories would be lost.  It's definitely possible, of course.  You
> > > might also be able to get a SF admin to simply rename the
> > > Number::Format directory to Number-Format; one fo the nice thing about
> > > CVS is that it's just files, so this will Just Work.
> > >
> > > (darren)
> > >
> > > --
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> > >     -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: [Number::Format] Ideas for homepage?

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

I'm picking up the threads where they left off before the whole
gmail/sourceforge mess.

On 9/21/06, Jonas B. Nielsen <jo...@gm...> wrote:
> Ok,
>
> What is the goal of Number::Format, when do we reach a final release?

I don't think there is one.  I guess it's in maintenance mode - we add
new features and fix bugs but I have no grand plans.  Anyone else have
a vision for where it should go?

> A Wiki is good for dispersed/complex documentation
> A Web page is good for marketing (and linking everything together)

Agreed.  A blog is also good if there's a lot of news coming out.

> Currently we are dicussing a lot of things attempting to get
> development running, so a homepage to get everything* linked together
> would be a good start:

OK, good plan.  How should we do the homepage?  I'm not feeling
especially inspired to build a new HTML layout at the moment.  Should
I install a wiki tool?  A blog tool?  Some other kind of tool?  Anyone
want to volunteer to get this going?

> But I think it is important that we get our roadmap outlined, so we
> can decide in what information needs to be written and where.
>
> I see the following issues:
>
> - The rt.cpan.org issues
> - Perl version backwards compability
> - Refactoring the tests to Test::More

Agreed.  There are also a couple of features documented in the
sourceforge tracker.

> And there is probably a few I have forgotten, but I have not had my
> first coffee yet
>
> jonasbn
>
> *By everything I mean:
>
> rt.cpan.org
> search.cpan.org
> all of our sf.net goodies in a easily readable manner

Sounds good to me.


> On 22/09/2006, at 1.35, Bill Ward wrote:
>
> > Currently I have configured http://number-format.sf.net/ to just be a
> > redirect to the project summary page, but we can do a lot more with
> > it.  Ideas include:
> >
> > * Web pages
> > * Blog
> > * Wiki
> > * Demo, like the one on http://www.bayview.com/perl/number-format-
> > demo.cgi
> > * Combination of the above
> > * Other ideas?
> >
> > --Bill.
> >
> > --
> > Help bring back the San Jose Earthquakes - http://
> > www.soccersiliconvalley.com/
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Re: [Number::Format] testing

[Darren C. <dl...@se...>]

On 10/11/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
> After the recent problems between gmail and sourceforge I want to test
> to see if this is working.  If you see this please send me a reply to
> confirm that you got it.

Got it.

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[Number::Format] testing

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

After the recent problems between gmail and sourceforge I want to test
to see if this is working.  If you see this please send me a reply to
confirm that you got it.

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Re: [Number::Format] Error in round.t

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

(Note: there was an issue between gmail and sourceforge which was
preventing my email from getting through.  I'm re-sending this one -
with a small spelling fix)

On 9/27/06, Cosimo Streppone <co...@st...> wrote:
> Bill Ward wrote:
>
> > it's my first Test::More script, so maybe one
> > of you will have some critique before I check it into CVS?
>
> The script is ok.
> I'd extend it with some more (useful?) tests, like that I attached you.

Thanks, I will take a look at those and add them.

> > Also, are any of you able to reproduce that testing error?
>
> No, all tests successful on my test machines.
> If I set locale to "it_IT.UTF8" or "it_IT", some tests fail,
> while setting LANG to "en_US" or "en_US.UTF-8" doesn't break tests.
> Report of fails is also attached.
> I don't promise, but if I have a little time, I can try to
> investigate...

What does this mean?

t/unformat_number....Number::Format: {thousands_sep} and
{decimal_point} may not be equal
 at t/unformat_number.t line 22

I don't see how thousands_sep and decimal_point could ever be equal.
Do you write 1234.56 as 1,234,56 or 1.234.56 in Italian??

[Number::Format] Error in round.t

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

I noticed there was an error report on CPAN for Number::Format 1.52
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/350947
but I was unable to reproduce it.  I looked at the round.t test script
which caused the problem, and couldn't imagine why it would fail.  So
I decided to try converting it to Test::More, and emailed the
resulting script to the guy who reported the failure.  Here's the test
script I came up with - it's my first Test::More script, so maybe one
of you will have some critique before I check it into CVS?
Also, are any of you able to reproduce that testing error?

use Test::More tests => 7;

BEGIN { use_ok('Number::Format', 'round') }

cmp_ok(round(123456.512),       '==', 123456.51,    "precision=0" );
cmp_ok(round(-1234567.509, 2),  '==', -1234567.51,  "negative thousandths" );
cmp_ok(round(-12345678.5, 2),   '==', -12345678.5,  "negative tenths" );
cmp_ok(round(-123456.78951, 4), '==', -123456.7895, "precision=4" );
cmp_ok(round(123456.78951, -2), '==', 123500,       "precision=-2" );
is(    round(1.005, 2),               1.01,         "string-eq" );


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[Number::Format] Welcome Cosimo

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

Welcome to the newest Number::Format developer, Cosimo Streppone!

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Re: [Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

We can ask the SF.net admins to rename the directory.  That's one of
the things they're willing to do IIRC.

On 9/22/06, Jonas B. Nielsen <jo...@gm...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Well we could do one thing and that is take a snapshot of what we
> have done so far on sf.net.
>
> Then we could import all of Bill Ward's CVS history into sf.net CVS
> and then re-add our snapshot. This is a fairly well documented
> procedure on sf.net and when we do it we can fix the renaming issue
> and we would not loose much history apart from the commits made  on
> sf.net CVS, which we would have to redo.
>
> It is a long road, but it is doable - I am doing the same thing for
> the Workflow module any day know.
>
> What do you think?
>
> jonasbn
>
> On 22/09/2006, at 2.33, Darren Chamberlain wrote:
>
> > * Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> [2006/09/21 17:29]:
> >> On 9/21/06, Darren Chamberlain <dl...@se...> wrote:
> >>> I noticed this when I was doing the CVS checkout, and used the -d
> >>> option:
> >>>
> >>>   $ cvs co -d Number-Format 'Number::Format'
> >>>
> >>> I think that will be the best option, since we can't rename CVS
> >>> modules.
> >>
> >> Actually the CVS module is named "perl" so maybe we could?
> >
> > We'd still need to do cvs add and cvs rm, which means that the file
> > histories would be lost.  It's definitely possible, of course.  You
> > might also be able to get a SF admin to simply rename the
> > Number::Format directory to Number-Format; one fo the nice thing about
> > CVS is that it's just files, so this will Just Work.
> >
> > (darren)
> >
> > --
> > The higher we soar the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.
> >     -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: [Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Jonas B. N. <jo...@gm...>]

Hello,

Well we could do one thing and that is take a snapshot of what we  
have done so far on sf.net.

Then we could import all of Bill Ward's CVS history into sf.net CVS  
and then re-add our snapshot. This is a fairly well documented  
procedure on sf.net and when we do it we can fix the renaming issue  
and we would not loose much history apart from the commits made  on  
sf.net CVS, which we would have to redo.

It is a long road, but it is doable - I am doing the same thing for  
the Workflow module any day know.

What do you think?

jonasbn

On 22/09/2006, at 2.33, Darren Chamberlain wrote:

> * Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> [2006/09/21 17:29]:
>> On 9/21/06, Darren Chamberlain <dl...@se...> wrote:
>>> I noticed this when I was doing the CVS checkout, and used the -d
>>> option:
>>>
>>>   $ cvs co -d Number-Format 'Number::Format'
>>>
>>> I think that will be the best option, since we can't rename CVS
>>> modules.
>>
>> Actually the CVS module is named "perl" so maybe we could?
>
> We'd still need to do cvs add and cvs rm, which means that the file
> histories would be lost.  It's definitely possible, of course.  You
> might also be able to get a SF admin to simply rename the
> Number::Format directory to Number-Format; one fo the nice thing about
> CVS is that it's just files, so this will Just Work.
>
> (darren)
>
> -- 
> The higher we soar the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.
>     -- Friedrich Nietzsche
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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Re: [Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Jonas B. N. <jo...@gm...>]

Hep,

With shell access to the CVS server it would be possible to rename,  
but I do not think that we have that :-/

jonasbn

On 22/09/2006, at 2.28, Darren Chamberlain wrote:

> * Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> [2006/09/21 12:32]:
>> I just ran the "make test" and was shocked to find that it didn't
>> pass.  Why?  It was using the Number::Format that is installed in my
>> system directory.  Why?  Because my work directory has :: in the
>> pathname.  Why?  Because I used :: in the directory name when I
>> checked it into CVS, and Perl uses : as a path separator in the -I
>> command line option.  Ugh.
>
> I noticed this when I was doing the CVS checkout, and used the -d
> option:
>
>   $ cvs co -d Number-Format 'Number::Format'
>
> I think that will be the best option, since we can't rename CVS
> modules.
>
> (darren)
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Re: [Number::Format] Ideas for homepage?

[Jonas B. N. <jo...@gm...>]

Ok,

What is the goal of Number::Format, when do we reach a final release?

A Wiki is good for dispersed/complex documentation
A Web page is good for marketing (and linking everything together)

Currently we are dicussing a lot of things attempting to get  
development running, so a homepage to get everything* linked together  
would be a good start:

But I think it is important that we get our roadmap outlined, so we  
can decide in what information needs to be written and where.

I see the following issues:

- The rt.cpan.org issues
- Perl version backwards compability
- Refactoring the tests to Test::More

And there is probably a few I have forgotten, but I have not had my  
first coffee yet

jonasbn

*By everything I mean:

rt.cpan.org
search.cpan.org
all of our sf.net goodies in a easily readable manner

On 22/09/2006, at 1.35, Bill Ward wrote:

> Currently I have configured http://number-format.sf.net/ to just be a
> redirect to the project summary page, but we can do a lot more with
> it.  Ideas include:
>
> * Web pages
> * Blog
> * Wiki
> * Demo, like the one on http://www.bayview.com/perl/number-format- 
> demo.cgi
> * Combination of the above
> * Other ideas?
>
> --Bill.
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Re: [Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Darren C. <dl...@se...>]

* Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> [2006/09/21 17:29]:
> On 9/21/06, Darren Chamberlain <dl...@se...> wrote:
> > I noticed this when I was doing the CVS checkout, and used the -d
> > option:
> >
> >   $ cvs co -d Number-Format 'Number::Format'
> >
> > I think that will be the best option, since we can't rename CVS
> > modules.
>=20
> Actually the CVS module is named "perl" so maybe we could?

We'd still need to do cvs add and cvs rm, which means that the file
histories would be lost.  It's definitely possible, of course.  You
might also be able to get a SF admin to simply rename the
Number::Format directory to Number-Format; one fo the nice thing about
CVS is that it's just files, so this will Just Work.

(darren)

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Re: [Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

On 9/21/06, Darren Chamberlain <dl...@se...> wrote:
> * Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> [2006/09/21 12:32]:
> > I just ran the "make test" and was shocked to find that it didn't
> > pass.  Why?  It was using the Number::Format that is installed in my
> > system directory.  Why?  Because my work directory has :: in the
> > pathname.  Why?  Because I used :: in the directory name when I
> > checked it into CVS, and Perl uses : as a path separator in the -I
> > command line option.  Ugh.
>
> I noticed this when I was doing the CVS checkout, and used the -d
> option:
>
>   $ cvs co -d Number-Format 'Number::Format'
>
> I think that will be the best option, since we can't rename CVS
> modules.

Actually the CVS module is named "perl" so maybe we could?
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Re: [Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Darren C. <dl...@se...>]

* Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> [2006/09/21 12:32]:
> I just ran the "make test" and was shocked to find that it didn't
> pass.  Why?  It was using the Number::Format that is installed in my
> system directory.  Why?  Because my work directory has :: in the
> pathname.  Why?  Because I used :: in the directory name when I
> checked it into CVS, and Perl uses : as a path separator in the -I
> command line option.  Ugh.

I noticed this when I was doing the CVS checkout, and used the -d
option:

  $ cvs co -d Number-Format 'Number::Format'

I think that will be the best option, since we can't rename CVS
modules.

(darren)

--=20
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls
and looks like work.
    -- Thomas Edison

[Number::Format] Ideas for homepage?

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

Currently I have configured http://number-format.sf.net/ to just be a
redirect to the project summary page, but we can do a lot more with
it.  Ideas include:

* Web pages
* Blog
* Wiki
* Demo, like the one on http://www.bayview.com/perl/number-format-demo.cgi
* Combination of the above
* Other ideas?

--Bill.

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Re: [Number::Format] Release 1.52

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

On 9/21/06, Cees Hek <ce...@gm...> wrote:
> On 9/21/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
> > > Otherwise we should mention that bug reports should go to sf.net
> > > instead of rt.cpan.org.
> >
> > I added a link to the sf.net tracker in the README file for 1.52.  I
> > wish there was some way to sync the two automatically.  I fear we may
> > have to just keep checking both places.
>
> As the owner of Number::Format, you should get an email at the address
> you registered with CPAN or rt.cpan.org whenever any bugs are reported
> through RT (at least I get that for all of my modules).

Yes, and I can probably auto-fwd those to this list.

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Re: [Number::Format] Release 1.52

[Cees H. <ce...@gm...>]

On 9/21/06, Bill Ward <bi...@wa...> wrote:
> > Otherwise we should mention that bug reports should go to sf.net
> > instead of rt.cpan.org.
>
> I added a link to the sf.net tracker in the README file for 1.52.  I
> wish there was some way to sync the two automatically.  I fear we may
> have to just keep checking both places.

As the owner of Number::Format, you should get an email at the address
you registered with CPAN or rt.cpan.org whenever any bugs are reported
through RT (at least I get that for all of my modules).

Cheers,

Cees

[Number::Format] Fwd: CPAN Upload: W/WR/WRW/Number-Format-1.52.tar.gz

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

I have released 1.52 on CPAN and SourceForge.  CVS Commits may now be
done (but please announce here what you plan to do first)

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To: William R Ward <wil...@ba...>


The uploaded file

    Number-Format-1.52.tar.gz

has entered CPAN as

  file: $CPAN/authors/id/W/WR/WRW/Number-Format-1.52.tar.gz
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No action is required on your part
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Re: [Number::Format] Release 1.52

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

On 9/21/06, Jonas B. Nielsen <jo...@gm...> wrote:
> On 21/09/2006, at 20.45, Bill Ward wrote:
> > I have decided to release 1.52 with that \s+ to \s* change now, and
> > then we can concentrate on other features.
>
> Sounds good, I will skip the related tests then...

Yes, upon further reflection it would be silly to add a test for this,
as the existing format_price.t should cover the case.

> > I have updated all the files such as README and CHANGES for the
> > release and am checking those in now, then I will be applying the CVS
> > label.  Please don't make any more commits until I give the word.
>
> Perhaps we should have a branching strategy? so we can work on issues
> in parallel

My experience with CVS has been entirely as the sole developer so I
haven't had occasion to work with branches.  I know what they are and
have used them in ClearCase extensively, but not in CVS.  Do you have
a strategy in mind?

> or we create a subproject aiming at a release - I think this is
> normally called a roadmap :)

Not sure this project is big enough to require subprojects... but feel
free to explain in more depth.

> > I think we should enter the bugs from RT under the Bugs or Support
> > Requests trackers, not the Tasks list.  Any thoughts on that?  I'm new
> > at this SourceForge admin stuff so if you think I should do it
> > differently please speak up.  Also don't hesitate to ask for access to
> > something that you may be blocked from doing currently.
>
> Well it is all things which needs to be done, the task listing would
> enable us to plan when the bugs should be fixed and we keep them in
> RT until resolved.
>
> Otherwise we should mention that bug reports should go to sf.net
> instead of rt.cpan.org.

I added a link to the sf.net tracker in the README file for 1.52.  I
wish there was some way to sync the two automatically.  I fear we may
have to just keep checking both places.

Bill.

[Number::Format] Interesting issue in development environment

[Bill W. <bi...@wa...>]

I just ran the "make test" and was shocked to find that it didn't
pass.  Why?  It was using the Number::Format that is installed in my
system directory.  Why?  Because my work directory has :: in the
pathname.  Why?  Because I used :: in the directory name when I
checked it into CVS, and Perl uses : as a path separator in the -I
command line option.  Ugh.

To fix, I had to call it from a path that didn't have any colons in
it.  I made a symlink of the Number::Format directory called
Number__Format, and now it works.

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