From: Ben <ma...@fr...> - 2011-04-07 09:32:14
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Hello, I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a Power Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and x64, and exposure to RHEL/Centos. I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet Crescendo G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? Cheers -- Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 |
From: Tobias N. <int...@us...> - 2011-04-07 17:05:48
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Hi Ben, unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a switch back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. Cheers, Tobias > Hello, > > I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and > alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a > Power > Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and x64, > and exposure to RHEL/Centos. > > I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet Crescendo > G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? > > Cheers > > -- > > Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 > ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2011-04-07 20:02:55
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Tobias: I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. here's a link that explains it: http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html Tom On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > Hi Ben, > > unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the > Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a switch > back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one > figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. > > Cheers, > Tobias > > >> Hello, >> >> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >> Power >> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and x64, >> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >> >> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet Crescendo >> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >> >> Cheers >> >> -- >> >> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > |
From: Tobias N. <int...@us...> - 2011-04-07 21:34:47
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Well that's new to me! Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users reported that it didn't work. Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as well?! But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR parameter on the kernel command line. Tobias > Tobias: > > I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac > 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to > modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's > extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", > much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my > PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. > > here's a link that explains it: > > http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html > > Tom > > On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a switch >> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >> >> Cheers, >> Tobias >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>> Power >>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>> x64, >>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>> >>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>> Crescendo >>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> -------- >>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>> And it wants your games. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2011-04-08 14:04:28
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Yes, Tobias, the MkLinux booter fix only worked with NewerTech upgrades. All this talk about the PM 6100 makes me want to dig my old machine out of the shed to see if it still boots up. One has to wonder, though, along with Ben, "should I bother?" With its 2MB of VRAM, the PM 6100 is not going to be surfing the web or even running X Windows comfortably. Even if I could get Debian Sarge running on it, support for that version ended years ago. What would I actually DO with it? I'm thinking the same thing about my old PowerBook 1400. Ben, I have a "penchant for vintage and alternative computing", also, as you can see from my blog below. Cheers, Tom P.S. Did you light a birthday candle for Linux yesterday? http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/04/07/187253/Celebrating-20-Years-of-Linux __ Thomas Carlson 2319 La Senda Santa Fe, NM 87505 505-603-5526 http://www.ifixoldmacs.com On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > Well that's new to me! > Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users > reported that it didn't work. > Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as well?! > But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. > > Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the > PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before > entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't > switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR > parameter on the kernel command line. > > Tobias > >> Tobias: >> >> I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac >> 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to >> modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's >> extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", >> much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my >> PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. >> >> here's a link that explains it: >> >> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html >> >> Tom >> >> On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >> >>> Hi Ben, >>> >>> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >>> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a switch >>> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >>> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Tobias >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>>> Power >>>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>>> x64, >>>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>>> >>>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>>> Crescendo >>>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> -------- >>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>> And it wants your games. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>> Nub...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --------- >>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>> And it wants your games. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > |
From: Tobias N. <int...@us...> - 2011-04-08 15:20:10
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Well, I'm sure that with a G4/400 and 264 MB RAM (if you can get it working reliably) it still can be of some use even for surfing the web (I use a PowerBook Wallstreet G4/500 with 512 MB RAM). But with the original 601 CPU I don't think it could be of use for any recent application. Even less if you are limited to 72 MB RAM. > Yes, Tobias, the MkLinux booter fix only worked with NewerTech > upgrades. All this talk about the PM 6100 makes me want to dig my > old machine out of the shed to see if it still boots up. > > One has to wonder, though, along with Ben, "should I bother?" With > its 2MB of VRAM, the PM 6100 is not going to be surfing the web or > even running X Windows comfortably. Even if I could get Debian > Sarge running on it, support for that version ended years ago. > What would I actually DO with it? I'm thinking the same thing > about my old PowerBook 1400. > > Ben, I have a "penchant for vintage and alternative computing", > also, as you can see from my blog below. > > Cheers, Tom > > P.S. Did you light a birthday candle for Linux yesterday? > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/04/07/187253/Celebrating-20- > Years-of-Linux > __ > Thomas Carlson > 2319 La Senda > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > 505-603-5526 > http://www.ifixoldmacs.com > > On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > >> Well that's new to me! >> Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users >> reported that it didn't work. >> Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as >> well?! >> But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. >> >> Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the >> PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before >> entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't >> switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR >> parameter on the kernel command line. >> >> Tobias >> >>> Tobias: >>> >>> I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac >>> 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to >>> modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's >>> extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", >>> much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my >>> PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. >>> >>> here's a link that explains it: >>> >>> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ben, >>>> >>>> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >>>> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a >>>> switch >>>> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >>>> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Tobias >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>>>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>>>> Power >>>>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>>>> x64, >>>>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>>>> >>>>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>>>> Crescendo >>>>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>>>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> -------- >>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> --------- >>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>> And it wants your games. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>> Nub...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> -------- >>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>> And it wants your games. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Ben <ma...@fr...> - 2011-04-10 03:07:01
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Hello, Yes, it has 264, but the G4 is running slower (300?), since the system clock is still only 33MHz. Last it was running with OS9, and was usable. The thing with these old systems is finding the right thing for them to do. I wouldn't expect Youtube on it, but it could do as basic webserver, even a mail server with a decent sized hard drive. At the moment, I am having trouble getting it to boot from CD (Mac OS or Linux) after taking it out storage. Probably needs some TLC. I might try a Newertech card if I see one come up again on fleabay. Cheers On 11-04-09 1:20 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > Well, I'm sure that with a G4/400 and 264 MB RAM (if you can get it > working reliably) it still can be of some use even for surfing the > web (I use a PowerBook Wallstreet G4/500 with 512 MB RAM). But with > the original 601 CPU I don't think it could be of use for any recent > application. Even less if you are limited to 72 MB RAM. > >> Yes, Tobias, the MkLinux booter fix only worked with NewerTech >> upgrades. All this talk about the PM 6100 makes me want to dig my >> old machine out of the shed to see if it still boots up. >> >> One has to wonder, though, along with Ben, "should I bother?" With >> its 2MB of VRAM, the PM 6100 is not going to be surfing the web or >> even running X Windows comfortably. Even if I could get Debian >> Sarge running on it, support for that version ended years ago. >> What would I actually DO with it? I'm thinking the same thing >> about my old PowerBook 1400. >> >> Ben, I have a "penchant for vintage and alternative computing", >> also, as you can see from my blog below. >> >> Cheers, Tom >> >> P.S. Did you light a birthday candle for Linux yesterday? >> >> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/04/07/187253/Celebrating-20- >> Years-of-Linux >> __ >> Thomas Carlson >> 2319 La Senda >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> 505-603-5526 >> http://www.ifixoldmacs.com >> >> On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >> >>> Well that's new to me! >>> Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users >>> reported that it didn't work. >>> Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as >>> well?! >>> But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. >>> >>> Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the >>> PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before >>> entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't >>> switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR >>> parameter on the kernel command line. >>> >>> Tobias >>> >>>> Tobias: >>>> >>>> I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac >>>> 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to >>>> modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's >>>> extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", >>>> much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my >>>> PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. >>>> >>>> here's a link that explains it: >>>> >>>> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>> >>>>> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >>>>> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a >>>>> switch >>>>> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >>>>> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Tobias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>>>>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>>>>> Power >>>>>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>>>>> x64, >>>>>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>>>>> Crescendo >>>>>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>>>>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -------- >>>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> --------- >>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> -------- >>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>> And it wants your games. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>> Nub...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --------- >>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>> And it wants your games. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users -- Mac of the day: Power Mac G4 'Sawtooth' ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2011-04-11 18:30:20
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Might be worth replacing the PRAM battery before you do anything major to get it going again. Tom On Apr 9, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Ben wrote: > Hello, > > Yes, it has 264, but the G4 is running slower (300?), since the system > clock is still only 33MHz. Last it was running with OS9, and was usable. > The thing with these old systems is finding the right thing for them to > do. I wouldn't expect Youtube on it, but it could do as basic webserver, > even a mail server with a decent sized hard drive. > > At the moment, I am having trouble getting it to boot from CD (Mac OS or > Linux) after taking it out storage. Probably needs some TLC. > > I might try a Newertech card if I see one come up again on fleabay. > > Cheers > > On 11-04-09 1:20 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >> Well, I'm sure that with a G4/400 and 264 MB RAM (if you can get it >> working reliably) it still can be of some use even for surfing the >> web (I use a PowerBook Wallstreet G4/500 with 512 MB RAM). But with >> the original 601 CPU I don't think it could be of use for any recent >> application. Even less if you are limited to 72 MB RAM. >> >>> Yes, Tobias, the MkLinux booter fix only worked with NewerTech >>> upgrades. All this talk about the PM 6100 makes me want to dig my >>> old machine out of the shed to see if it still boots up. >>> >>> One has to wonder, though, along with Ben, "should I bother?" With >>> its 2MB of VRAM, the PM 6100 is not going to be surfing the web or >>> even running X Windows comfortably. Even if I could get Debian >>> Sarge running on it, support for that version ended years ago. >>> What would I actually DO with it? I'm thinking the same thing >>> about my old PowerBook 1400. >>> >>> Ben, I have a "penchant for vintage and alternative computing", >>> also, as you can see from my blog below. >>> >>> Cheers, Tom >>> >>> P.S. Did you light a birthday candle for Linux yesterday? >>> >>> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/04/07/187253/Celebrating-20- >>> Years-of-Linux >>> __ >>> Thomas Carlson >>> 2319 La Senda >>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>> 505-603-5526 >>> http://www.ifixoldmacs.com >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >>> >>>> Well that's new to me! >>>> Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users >>>> reported that it didn't work. >>>> Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as >>>> well?! >>>> But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. >>>> >>>> Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the >>>> PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before >>>> entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't >>>> switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR >>>> parameter on the kernel command line. >>>> >>>> Tobias >>>> >>>>> Tobias: >>>>> >>>>> I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac >>>>> 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to >>>>> modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's >>>>> extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", >>>>> much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my >>>>> PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. >>>>> >>>>> here's a link that explains it: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>>> >>>>>> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >>>>>> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a >>>>>> switch >>>>>> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >>>>>> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Tobias >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>>>>>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>>>>>> Power >>>>>>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>>>>>> x64, >>>>>>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>>>>>> Crescendo >>>>>>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>>>>>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -------- >>>>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --------- >>>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> -------- >>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> --------- >>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>> It's a major breakthrough. 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An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > -- > > Mac of the day: Power Mac G4 'Sawtooth' > ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > |