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#6 Not visible on LAN with plugin

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2003-03-06
2003-03-06
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I installed the latest version (0.36) from sf.net on the
latest stable version of Miranda.

After disabling the messenger service (i'm running
win2k), I was able to search (and find) myself and a
coworker in the find/add user dialog. I could also
successfully send a message to both me and my
coworker.

However, neither my coworker nor me (using "net send
<my computer name>" from the command prompt)
could send any messages to me. All I got was:

MIRANDA:~>net send miranda "foo"
An error occurred while sending a message to
MIRANDA.

The message alias could not be found on the network.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2273.

(incidentially, my computer is named "miranda". (and
no, that was before I discovered the IM program :)).

The same result occurs when I try to send to my login
name.

This unfortunately makes this plugin unusable to me. :-(
I'm a bit disappointed since it seemed like a very good
idea otherwise. (I use "net send <myself>" in long-
running scripts to notify myself that the script is
finished...)

Discussion

  • Radoslav Paskalev

     
  • Radoslav Paskalev

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    I'm sorry but windows net send and nsp can't work thogether
    on the same computer.

    Here is a console aplication that can send messages to nsp
    from command prompt. The only limitation is that you can send
    only to computer names, and mailslot listen shouldn't be
    disabled in nsp.

     
  • Magnus Ihse Bursie

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    Okay, that perhaps explains why _I_ can't send to myself
    from my own computer (I suspected that could be
    problematic). However, it does not explain why my coworker --
    on a completely different computer, without nsp installed --
    couldn't send messages to me when I ran nsp.

    I'll download your program and try again, both from my
    computer (and I'll ask my coworker again if he's not too busy
    working ;-)).

     
  • Magnus Ihse Bursie

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    Ok, now I have tried. This is the results:
    When I'm running the Messenger service:
    mserv from my computer -> OK
    mserv from other computer -> OK
    net send from my computer -> OK
    net send from other computer -> OK

    When I'm running nsp in Miranda:
    mserv from my computer -> OK
    mserv from other computer -> OK
    net send from my computer -> DOES NOT WORK
    net send from other computer -> DOES NOT WORK

    I can live with the fact that net send from my computer does
    not work, even if it means I have to change some scripts/bat-
    files. I can imagine that this perhaps is impossible, if net
    send somehow requires that the Messenger service is
    running.

    However, if no-one else CAN'T send anything to me using the
    traditional way, then the whole plugin is of no use to me,
    since I can't force everyone else on the LAN to stop
    using "net send". The whole point of this plugin should be that
    it is a replacement for the normal Messenger service, right?

    I don't want to sound rude. You have done a great amount of
    work and I am really impressed with what you have done so
    far. I just wish I could use it, as I think it was intended. :-)

    /Magnus

     
  • Radoslav Paskalev

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    NSP should receive net send messages from other computers.

    Could you send me the debug log from nsp.

     
  • Magnus Ihse Bursie

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    How do I get a debug log?

     
  • Radoslav Paskalev

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    Just use the debug build version of nsp. The log is saved in
    root foolder of drive c (something like c:\nsp_debug....log).

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

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    hello,

    just my experiences:
    with the same configuration/versions as Magnus got the same
    error on w2k. then i tried other nsp versions (0.0.3.5, 0.0.3.6,
    0.0.3.7 rc2) but the result was the same
    then i tried it on winxp, and the result was also the same :(

    i need to say that i just upgraded miranda for the newest
    stable version (0.3) and upgraded also many plugins with
    adding a few new of them. i had the thought nsp (0.0.3.5)
    was working before, but that's fact, i really rarely used it.
    ... and now i need it...

    csiga

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

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    hello,

    just my experiences:
    with the same configuration/versions as Magnus got the same
    error on w2k. then i tried other nsp versions (0.0.3.5, 0.0.3.6,
    0.0.3.7 rc2) but the result was the same
    then i tried it on winxp, and the result was also the same :(

    i need to say that i just upgraded miranda for the newest
    stable version (0.3) and upgraded also many plugins with
    adding a few new of them. i had the thought nsp (0.0.3.5)
    was working before, but that's fact, i really rarely used it.
    ... and now i need it...

    csiga

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

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    hello,

    just my experiences:
    with the same configuration/versions as Magnus got the same
    error on w2k. then i tried other nsp versions (0.0.3.5, 0.0.3.6,
    0.0.3.7 rc2) but the result was the same
    then i tried it on winxp, and the result was also the same :(

    i need to say that i just upgraded miranda for the newest
    stable version (0.3) and upgraded also many plugins with
    adding a few new of them. i had the thought nsp (0.0.3.5)
    was working before, but that's fact, i really rarely used it.
    ... and now i need it...

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

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    sorry, server focked up :)

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

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    I use this plugin in Win98 with Miranda ver. 0.2 and then 0.3.
    And I also can send, but can not receive messages with it.

     
  • Greg Norris

    Greg Norris - 2003-10-27

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    I am having similar problems with nsp as Magnus. I all worked
    fine on NT but now on XP I cant reach some peolpe and some
    can't reach me. It is quite wierd. I used to use it a lot but
    now I am back to clunky old email that take for ever to be
    read.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    (I am a programmer and have tested just about all aspects of
    connection with the clients but cannot send to some and
    receive from others..)

    PS it worked for me -until I upgrated to Miranda 0.3.1

    Good luck
    Greg. (Nautalus)

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

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    Miranda 0.3.1
    NSP 0037rc2 (and older versions)
    Computer in domain

    After properly configuring environment (shutting down Messenger)
    I've noticed interesting regularity:
    1. There were 2 groups of machines in my domain some can
    send me messages via net send and some can't.
    2. I've checked "Don't listen on mailslot (needs restart)"
    checkbox and the machines in groups swapped. That who can
    send me before checking now can't and that who can't now can.
    So 2 groups stayed but swapped.

    Resuming: Can you fix plugin so, that it can listen on two ways.
    ???

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

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    Hi!

    My experiences:
    Plugin sends messages quite fine, the problems are in receiving only. Sending to standard Messenger works always right, but pugin sometimes does not receive messages (not response to Call) and this is the source of all problems in messaging. The error code is 0х0014 - NRC_NOCALL (no callname).
    I am programmer and look through source code of this plugin.
    Sorry for bad English :)

     

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