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[Notion-devel] Making it easier to develop notion

[James d. <ja...@hu...>]

First off, hello!

I discovered this project after upgrading to Ubuntu maverick and finding
that ion3 had been dropped from the repository.  I'm excited to see
development continue in a friendly environment.  Thank you!  I have notion
up and running on my maverick system.

However, my experience with compiling and installing notion was painful -- I
needed to checkout 3 different git repositories which somehow depended on
each other (I ended up creating a few symlinks).  I needed to edit Makefile
by hand and finally I needed to create ~/.notion manually.

I would like to fix that process.  Making it easier to get started will
encourage more developers to join the project.

The goal would be to get notion to a point where building and running notion
from source is easy. e.g:

   1. checkout sources (e.g. git clone)
   2. build (e.g. make or maybe `./configure && make`)
   3. run (e.g. `./notion`)

Thoughts?  Comments?

- James.

Re: [Notion-devel] Making it easier to develop notion

[<eb...@dr...>]

Maybe we can try 'git submodules', it requires git >= 1.5.3. If I read
manual correctly:

  * It requires only one additional command (without arguments) to
    checkout sumodules.

  * The submodules are bound /at specified commit/ - thus you know
    which version (commit) of submodules (libraries) is supposed to
    be used with the specified version (commit) of the superproject
    (here notion). - When you update the submodule with new version
    (commit), you have to commit into superproject: you commit the
    information that current version of superproject is supposed to be
    compiled with the new version of the submodule.

We should also distinguish the makefiles when used for building from git
repository and from releases. Also we can try to autodetect the LUA by
pkg-config and fallback to the 'standard' setting when there is no
pkg-config.

I will look at all of this in two or three weeks if somebody will not
be faster.


On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:16:26 -0700
James deBoer <ja...@hu...> wrote:
> First off, hello!
> 
> I discovered this project after upgrading to Ubuntu maverick and
> finding that ion3 had been dropped from the repository.  I'm excited
> to see development continue in a friendly environment.  Thank you!  I
> have notion up and running on my maverick system.
> 
> However, my experience with compiling and installing notion was
> painful -- I needed to checkout 3 different git repositories which
> somehow depended on each other (I ended up creating a few symlinks).
> I needed to edit Makefile by hand and finally I needed to create
> ~/.notion manually.
> 
> I would like to fix that process.  Making it easier to get started
> will encourage more developers to join the project.
> 
> The goal would be to get notion to a point where building and running
> notion from source is easy. e.g:
> 
>    1. checkout sources (e.g. git clone)
>    2. build (e.g. make or maybe `./configure && make`)
>    3. run (e.g. `./notion`)
> 
> Thoughts?  Comments?
> 
> - James.


-- 
                                 Tomáš 'ebík' Ebenlendr
                                 PF 2011.27906310249

Re: [Notion-devel] Making it easier to develop notion

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Hi!

If you just want to build notion from source, not really contribute, you can 
use the 'source package' in the sf.net releases:

  https://sourceforge.net/projects/notion/files/snapshots/

(this is linked to from the homepage).

It would still be interesting to make it easier for developers, too, of 
course, git submodules might be interesting to look into.


Kind regards,

Arnout

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 08:16:26AM -0700, James deBoer wrote:
> First off, hello!
> 
> I discovered this project after upgrading to Ubuntu maverick and finding
> that ion3 had been dropped from the repository.  I'm excited to see
> development continue in a friendly environment.  Thank you!  I have notion
> up and running on my maverick system.
> 
> However, my experience with compiling and installing notion was painful -- I
> needed to checkout 3 different git repositories which somehow depended on
> each other (I ended up creating a few symlinks).  I needed to edit Makefile
> by hand and finally I needed to create ~/.notion manually.
> 
> I would like to fix that process.  Making it easier to get started will
> encourage more developers to join the project.
> 
> The goal would be to get notion to a point where building and running notion
> from source is easy. e.g:
> 
>    1. checkout sources (e.g. git clone)
>    2. build (e.g. make or maybe `./configure && make`)
>    3. run (e.g. `./notion`)
> 
> Thoughts?  Comments?
> 
> - James.

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