From: M R. <mr...@gm...> - 2010-04-09 01:43:26
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well, i was going to post this on the notion-general ML, but since this one got more subscribers so far, i guess i'll post it here.. first off, let me be clear, i'm not planing on taking over the development/management of this fork in any way, shape or form, my only ambition was to kick start this project so we can continue developing/using ion without having to confine ourselves to someone else's idea of a good window manager, and of course, because Tuomo, being Tuomo, have taken Ion's website off the web, rendering it officially dead! now, i think, we should start the development discussion right away, and here's what i suggest should be on the agenda for the coming days: (sorted by priority) - reaching a consensus on the name (not very important actually, but i think it should be the first step) - discuss the legal issues (regarding the LGPLv2 & Tuomo's TM claims) - management & job assignment (who does what?) - initial commit - direction/goals - contribution methods (how do we expect people to contribute?) - website design/content/facilities/etc... - first release - publicity please add your suggestions/remarks... regards, M Rawash |
From: M R. <mr...@gm...> - 2010-04-09 10:08:05
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On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 11:19 +0200, Juri Hamburg wrote: > On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 03:36:25 +0200, M Rawash <mr...@gm...> wrote: > > well, i was going to post this on the notion-general ML, but since this > > one got more subscribers so far, i guess i'll post it here.. > > > > first off, let me be clear, i'm not planing on taking over the > > development/management of this fork in any way, shape or form, my only > > ambition was to kick start this project so we can continue > > developing/using ion without having to confine ourselves to someone > > else's idea of a good window manager, and of course, because Tuomo, > > being Tuomo, have taken Ion's website off the web, rendering it > > officially dead! > > > > now, i think, we should start the development discussion right away, and > > here's what i suggest should be on the agenda for the coming days: > > (sorted by priority) > > > > - reaching a consensus on the name (not very important actually, but i > > think it should be the first step) > > - discuss the legal issues (regarding the LGPLv2 & Tuomo's TM claims) > > - management & job assignment (who does what?) > > - initial commit > > - direction/goals > > - contribution methods (how do we expect people to contribute?) > > - website design/content/facilities/etc... > > - first release > > - publicity > > > > please add your suggestions/remarks... > > > > regards, > > M Rawash > > > > I would strike the name (who cares about names?) +1, but i guess some people might want to get this out of the way first... > and do an initial commit > first. The question is, wether the commit should be "cleaned" (eliminate > occurences of "ion", substitute with "notion") or not. If we do _not_ clean > the initial commit, we are definitely not allowed to distribute it (or > offer public checkout until it is "cleaned"). i agree, and that would not have been the case if it wasn't for Tuomo's additional terms, but let's be clear about the substitution part, from my understanding of both Tuomo's terms and the LGPL, we don't have to substitute EVERY occurrence of "ion" in the code/filenames, just the executables and install destinations, how hard could that be?! > I think, job assignment will be easier after we will see who is actually > _able_ to spend time and contribute code, ideas, etc. You won't be happy in > wasting your time assigning some important roles to anyone whose experience > is just some "hello world" code. +1 M Rawash |
From: M R. <mr...@gm...> - 2010-04-09 11:00:56
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On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 12:01 +0200, M Rawash wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 11:19 +0200, Juri Hamburg wrote: > > I think, job assignment will be easier after we will see who is actually > > _able_ to spend time and contribute code, ideas, etc. You won't be happy in > > wasting your time assigning some important roles to anyone whose experience > > is just some "hello world" code. > > +1 btw, the main reason i had this item up there is because we need to decided who will get the read+write access to the git/whateverelse repo (we can't just let anybody push crap onto it). M Rawash |