Re: [Notion-general] Moving the mailinglists away from Sourceforge

[tot-to <not...@to...>]

Hi Arnout,

> That's not necessarily a bad thing, though.

Perhaps, it would be a good thing, if forum-like interface is
supplemental to the maillist, but not when it substitutes the maillist.

> It would be nice to allow people to participate even without a google
> account - it's indeed pretty neat that sf.net allows you to subscribe
> without requiring a sf.net account.

I belive it's a general Google's attitute. For instance I have quite a
few XMPP contacts from Google. At random login to their account, they
can receive a suggestion to try so-called Hangouts. If they agree,
Google silently disables XMPP for them, while I receive an
"authorization rejected" message and silently disappear from their list.

Google is one of those proprietary services, that tries to vendor
lock-in existing users and to impose thier services to others. Please
don't migrate the maillist to Google.

> Still, I'd like a nicer home for the lists :).

Could you please clarify what do you mean by nicer? Or why sourceforge
and/or mailman is not good enough?

-----Original Message-----
Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 11:31:21 +0200
From: Arnout Engelen <no...@bz...>
To: tot-to <not...@to...>
Cc: notion-general <not...@li...>
Subject: Re: [Notion-general] Moving the mailinglists away from
Sourceforge


On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 2:34 AM, tot-to <not...@to...> wrote:

> The page on groups.google.com didn't look like a maillist
> subscription page, but more like a forum.


That's not necessarily a bad thing, though.


> I can't see any "subscribe" button and "New Topic" button redirects to the
> login page, excluding me from the discussion, because I'm not a Google user.
>

It would be nice to allow people to participate even without a google
account - it's indeed pretty neat that sf.net allows you to subscribe
without requiring a sf.net account.

Why you don't like the sourceforge maillists? They use a standart
> mailman, which does not impose using other services.
>

I agree the migration doesn't need to be big-bang (as said I already
accept tickets and PR's on github, for example, and would love it when
someone could help moving the site and documentation). Still, I'd like
a nicer home for the lists :).


Arnout


> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:26:51 +0200
> From: Arnout Engelen <no...@bz...>
> To: notion-general <not...@li...>
> Subject: [Notion-general] Moving the mailinglists away from Sourceforge
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to start moving away from sourceforge.
>
> I already accept PR's and issues on https://github.com/raboof/notion
>
> It would be nice to have something nicer for the site and docs as
> described at https://sourceforge.net/p/notion/mailman/message/32591869
>
> We'd need to move the mailinglists somewhere, Google Groups might be a
> good candidate.
>
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Arnout
>
>
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