Re: [Notion-devel] Reconsidering sf.net and git submodules

[Philipp H. <ph...@ph...>]

Hey all,

unfortunately I do not find a lot of time (if not to say any) for
developing Notion at the moment, but let me still tell you what I
think:

Concerning submodules: I've never seen any advantage in having them
and would be very much in favor of maintaining a single git repo with
ordinary subfolders.

Concerning SF: The only part that really bothers me is the bug
tracker. But apparently they have made some changes to it so maybe the
worst parts have improved? Essential features I am missing include:
* Inline formatting of code
* a pretty view of attached patches
* the ability to delete spam
I'm not really familiar with github's bug tracker so I don't know if
it has the above features. How would we deal with the lack of a
mailing list on github? And where would we host the web page?

Cheers,
Philipp

2013/8/30 Dima Kogan <no...@di...>:
> Josef 'Jeff' Sipek <je...@jo...> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 02:00:46PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>
>> I don't develop notion so take my opinions with a large grain of salt.  Ok?
>> Good.
>
> Likewise.
>
>
>>> While I'd much rather work on code (bugs and features) than infrastructure,
>>> I'm hearing an increasing frustration with sourceforge.net .
>>>
>>> I'd like to hear what you all would think about moving notion to, for
>>> example, github.
>
> I'm using github right now, but I'm not entirely happy with it. They
> keep changing the way their website looks, and with every iteration it
> feels less and less like "just a git host". Maybe this is seen as a plus
> by some. Also they don't have mailing lists. A useful comparison table
> is here:
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_software_hosting_facilities
>
> At some point I'm going to move all my projects to Savannah.
>
>
>>> On a slightly related note, I've been less than happy with our experiment
>>> using git submodules. Right now we're using relative paths, which means
>>> when you want to fork notion (for example to your own github account) you
>>> need to fork all submodules, too.
>>
>> I've only used submodules at work for some of our proprietary code... I
>> think the biggest issue we've ran into was lack of understanding how to use
>> submodules correctly.  This made them extremely frustrating and essentially
>> unusable.
>
>
> I'd like to add that in general, submodules create more work for
> maintainers of distribution packages. At least Debian has no
> infrastructure for dealing with them at this moment.
>
>
>> As far as notion's use of submodules is concerned... does anyone outside of
>> notion care about libtu and friends?  If not, just make them part of the
>> notion repo.
>
> Agreed. Project submodules lie somewhere between being a separate
> project and being a part of the main project. I don't think this middle
> ground needs to exist. If libtu needs to be usable by others, it should
> be spun off as a separate project.
>
> dima
>
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