Re: [Notion-general] blinkin' n' thinkin'

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:15:01PM +0200, Wojtek Aniszewski wrote:
> I have luck also when using two or three other fields, but for full bar, it 
> blinks like crazy approximately every 2 seconds.
> 
> I could accept the fact that the statusbar blinks, but I have at my
> disposal another computer system (desktop with ubuntu 10.04 and ion3)
> on which, for the same template, there is no "blinking" effect. So
> why?

Is it possible to install notion on that other system too? Does it blink there
too? If so, and you have some time on your hands, it'd be cool if you could 
find out since which commit this blinking was introduced ('git bisect' might
help there)

> Obviously, I'm used to notion/ion so much, that I'm not considering
> becoming frustrated:), 

:)

> but today, somehow, the blinking started to
> iritate me. Hence, I went to construct quickly a bash script which
> uses dzen2 to display an alternative statusbar. It works OK, but
> unfortunately I don't know how to use in notion in a satisfying way
> (e.g. I don't want windows to go under it -especially the F3/alt-F3
> queries).

This should work when you load the 'mod_dock' notion module, set the dock
mode to 'embedded' in the configuration, and start dzen2 with the '-dock'
parameter. Note that the '-dock' parameter is not available in all versions
of dzen2 (particularly, not yet in 0.8.5, which is in Debian).

> And so, I would like to know what do you think about it.

I personally think that in theory it's a great idea to use a seperate program 
designed specifically to be a great statusbar, instead of using a statusbar 
built into the windowmanager. 

Currently 2 practical problems with this approach is that many stand-alone 
statusbars for some reason have poor systray support, and that we don't yet
expose much information about which workspaces exist and are currently 
selected in a standardized way, so this information likely won't be available 
to a standalone statusbar application.

For the latter, there's some EWMH properties we could use, but they don't 
directly map to the Notion model very well, as described in
https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20120510183944.GO2822%40bzzt.net&forum_name=notion-devel


Kind regards,

Arnout