Re: [Notion-devel] Using an LGPL license extended with additional terms

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:36:47AM +0200, M Rawash wrote:
> all, ion3-related code is available here (alas, no darcs log):
> http://github.com/gwash/repositories

This is equivalent to notion-20100409.tar.gz except for the name change?

> On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 23:40 +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> > It appears notion-20100409 has some recent updates not found in either of the 
> > 2 darcs snapshots.
> 
> AFAIK, the notion tarball had no additional updates beyond the name
> replacement, is there a way to be sure? 

I simply compared the RELNOTES, and notion-20100409 mentions 3 releases not in
the RELNOTES of the darcs snapshots.

> > On the other hand, the darcs snapshots might allow us to 
> > keep some of the version control history intact while moving to git - which 
> > would be a huge win.
> 
> indeed, IIRC, there's a script somewhere that could allow us to do that,
> however, i heard it's not 100% bulletproof, so some work might have to
> be done.

I tried a couple (darcs2git and darcs-to-git iirc), but they wouldn't work
with the repo's above, and I'm at a loss as to how to make them work.

> > What I would *like* to do is:
> > - import a darcs snapshot (with all history) into a git repo
> > - as 1 commit, update it to also include the updates found in 
> >   notion-20100409.tar.gz (but not the name change)
> > - as 1 commit, apply the name change
> 
> actually, i'm not for the name change part (yet!), not in the way it was
> done in the notion tarball anyway, as it could slowdown the adoption of
> notion by existing ion3 users (most of whom have specially tuned
> settings and scripts, that will most definitely need to be adapted for
> notion)

That makes sense

> instead, i'm for a gradual and *announced* change of function
> names and strings starting after our first 'official' tarball release.

I'm not sure: if people have to update their configs every release, that might
get frustrating.

It might be possible to do the namechange in a backwards-compatible way 
though: just keeping all the old ion_* names as aliases for the new notion_*
ones. We'd have to look into that.

> for now, we only need to worry about Tuomo's additional clauses that
> prohibit install conflicts with ion(3plus), as well as any reference to
> Tuomo and/or Tuomo's website for support. this can easily be done by a
> few alterations to the Makefiles (also, i suggest we get rid of pwm3 on
> this step too) and manpages/READMEs/etc...

Agreed

> > Unfortunately, both darcs snapshots above somehow seem broken or otherwise
> > unsuitable for conversion to a git repo keeping history intact.
> 
> > Unless someone comes up with a non-'broken' snapshot or finds a way to get the
> > history from the darcs snapshots above, I think I'll just import 
> > notion-20100409.tar.gz (with the changes to LICENSE reverted).
> 
> i think i still have a few copies with full darcs history intact, not
> sure if they are as up-to-date as the ones on github though.

I'd be quite interested in those. If they're not as up-to-date as the ones on 
github I'll just add one commit bridging the gap between where darcs ends and
where github is.


Regards,

Arnout