Re: [Notion-devel] Is any of the notion@sf.net admins around?

[M R. <mr...@gm...>]

On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 01:01 +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 02:30:33AM +0200, M Rawash wrote:
> > Hi, sorry for being inactive the past few months (college finals, then
> > summer and whatnot), 
> 
> No problem, glad to hear from you :)

thanks =)

> Reading the lists and IRC, it would appear most people would be fairly happy 
> forking the latest ion3, keeping the LGPL-with-supplemental-naming-clause 
> license. While not strictly 'as free' as the LGPL, it would be 'as free' as 
> ion3, and perhaps even DFSG-free (the DFSG explicitly mentions 'The license 
> may require derived works to carry a different name or version number from the
> original software', though it discourages such restrictions.). This seems the 
> simplest way forward.

I can't say i'm 100% behind this, but it does seem like our best/last
option at this point, I'd also suggest that we have a separate license
file (let's say LICENSE-notion) which we can refer to instead of Tuomo's
made-up license, this way we will at least look like we're trying to
make it "free" (also, doesn't put us at odds with the LGPL; continuing
the (ab)use of Tuomo's license does!), but more on that later...

> > contribution, coding, etc... 
> 
> For starters, I think having a public git (or other version control) repo is 
> important 'psychologically': it is part of making notion an 'active project' 
> instead of a dead-end download.

indeed.

> As mentioned in private email, I'd like to contribute a first version of a 
> website ( http://arnout.engelen.eu/files/dev/notion/site/ ). 

looks good, send me your sf username so i can grant you admin access to
upload it to the sf site (if it's ok with everybody), we will discuss
the mission statement and all the other details later.

> I'd also like to
> contribute (if no-one beats me to it) patches for including mod_xinerama and
> some default settings (configuration for keyboard 'multimedia keys' comes to 
> mind). Other topics for the future might be supporting more of the NETWM spec
> and thinking of a way to make switching between dual-head and single-head 
> easier (useful for laptops), but I'm not sure what that should look like yet.

sounds like development-talk (not a moment too soon), i'd say we need to
hear from more people though, any thing beyond the initial commit (which
should be as pristine as possible, IMHO) should be discussed in a
brainstorming/hacking session, where we will, hopefully, get to test
some people's work, or at least hear some ideas; what gets in will
eventually be determined by the reviewer(s)/lead developer(s), whomever
they may eventually be.
 
> As for going forward, I'd say there will need to be someone who can set up an 
> initial git repo, at least 1 person reviewing and (eventually) applying 
> patches, and someone would have to upload and maintain a project website. This
> could all be done by the current admins, or you could consider adding some more
> people to the project - the important thing is that it happens.

I'm all for adding more admins to the project (notion is nobody's baby
at this point), and i hope for more people who wish to actively
contribute to this project to come forward (granted they know what they
are doing/getting into).

> > and where we need to pick up the discussion from this moment forward.
> 
> Ideally, IMHO, the following discussion should be along the lines of: "I think
> notion would be improved by doing X, and I'm willing to help, let's do it!" :).

here here.

regards,
M Rawash