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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 22:30:57
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On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 03:53:23PM -0500, Alex BATKO (ab...@mi...) wrote: > > I don't mean to drag this on, but the url (mentioned earlier > in this thread) now produces the error "Document unavailable". Yeah. That will be because I uploaded a new version of the FAQ and deleted the old one. The new URL is <https://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=9138&group_id=39625> or (still) <http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/FAQ.html> This links both work for me even when I'm not logged in to SourceForge. Dave... -- "Don't you boys know any _nice_ songs?" |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 22:27:53
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I see that the number of subscribers on this list has grown substantially on this list since the perl.com article was published. There are now 33 of us. The number of registered nms developers, however, has remained constant at 6. I thought it might therefore be useful to remind you all that we're pretty inclusive on this project. Anyone can become a developer. All you need to do is to register with SourceForge at <https://sourceforge.net/account/register.php> and then drop me an email with your new SourceForge username. I'll then add you to the list of nms developers and you'll then be able to contribute directly by accessing the code in our CVS repository. Let me know if you have any questions. Dave... -- Drugs are just bad m'kay |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 22:22:01
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I've added Windows .zip files to the downloads available from <http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net>. I _think_ they've got DOS/Win style line endings on them as well. Please take a look and let me know if there's any problem with them. Dave... -- "Don't you boys know any _nice_ songs?" |
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From: Jonathan S. <gel...@ge...> - 2002-01-27 21:08:17
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Alex BATKO wrote: > > I don't mean to drag this on, but the url (mentioned earlier > in this thread) now produces the error "Document unavailable". > > I think that the URLs that Dave mentioned before that are 'https:' will only work if you are logged in as a Sourceforge member ... /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | <http://www.gellyfish.com> | This space for rent | |
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From: Alex B. <ab...@mi...> - 2002-01-27 20:53:30
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I don't mean to drag this on, but the url (mentioned earlier in this thread) now produces the error "Document unavailable". | As a side note, Alex, this is a clsed mailing list. It only automatically | accepts emails from member. I've been approving your posts (which might | explain why they take a little time to appear). You might consider joining | the list from the page at | It should work now... |
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From: Jonathan S. <gel...@ge...> - 2002-01-27 20:51:16
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Dave Cross wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 02:42:39PM -0500, Joseph F. Ryan (rya...@os...) wrote: > > Woops, sorry about that. I didn't realize that would happen; wasn't thinking. > > No problem. I'm sure it's just a CVS configuration thing. > You can also configure cygwin to do the right thing ... the problem is if you use vim it will just say 'thats a DOS file I'll deal with it' and fine - you have to explicitly say 'filetype=unix' to save it as such. /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | <http://www.gellyfish.com> | This space for rent | |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 19:58:02
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On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 02:42:39PM -0500, Joseph F. Ryan (rya...@os...) wrote: > Woops, sorry about that. I didn't realize that would happen; wasn't thinking. No problem. I'm sure it's just a CVS configuration thing. > At any rate, I'll start on the cookie.lib docs as soon as I finish the > search docs. Excellent. Thanks. Dave... -- Don't dream it... be it |
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From: Joseph F. R. <rya...@os...> - 2002-01-27 19:47:08
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Woops, sorry about that. I didn't realize that would happen; wasn't thinking. At any rate, I'll start on the cookie.lib docs as soon as I finish the search docs. At 06:12 PM 1/27/2002 +0000, Dave Cross wrote: >I see we now have a first version of cookielib in CVS, which is great. I >notice, however, that when I check it out, it has DOS line endings. I'm >more than happy for people to do development under Windows if they feel >more comfortable there, but surely CVS will handle the line-end conversions >if asked to? > >Cheers, > >Dave... > >-- > > .sig missing... > > >_______________________________________________ >Nms-cgi-devel mailing list >Nms...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nms-cgi-devel |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 18:15:47
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I see we now have a first version of cookielib in CVS, which is great. I notice, however, that when I check it out, it has DOS line endings. I'm more than happy for people to do development under Windows if they feel more comfortable there, but surely CVS will handle the line-end conversions if asked to? Cheers, Dave... -- .sig missing... |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 17:57:18
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Thanks to everyone that's helped out. I've just released new (documented) versions of textcounter, textclock, ssi_rand_image, rand_text, rand_image, rand_link, guestbook, formmail, ffa and countdown. I think that Joe Ryan was going to work on search and that only leaves wwwboard - which I'm not too bothered about as the script isn't really ready yet anyway. I'll work on it over the next couple of days. Thanks again. Dave... -- Drugs are just bad m'kay |
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From: Jonathan S. <gel...@ge...> - 2002-01-27 15:48:18
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Nick Cleaton wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 06:45:11AM -0800, Nick Cleaton wrote: > > > > > > Modified Files: > > FormMail.pl README > > Log Message: > > * re-wrote README > > done formmail, starting on guestbook. > Gah, I already did it :( /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | <http://www.gellyfish.com> | This space for rent | |
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From: Nick C. <ni...@cl...> - 2002-01-27 15:24:37
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On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 06:45:11AM -0800, Nick Cleaton wrote: > > > Modified Files: > FormMail.pl README > Log Message: > * re-wrote README done formmail, starting on guestbook. > * added @allow_mail_to config option I've added an alternative way to configure allowed email addresses - a list of email address and hosts. @recipients still works (so there's no compatibility issue) but I've documented it as depreciated and made it empty in the default config in the script. -- Nick |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 12:29:36
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On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 10:15:19PM +0000, Jonathan Stowe (gel...@ge...) wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > One other thing. In the email to SourceForge Matt mentions references to > > his web site still being in rand_image and ssi_rand_image. When looking at > > these files can you please make very sure that we remove all references to > > Matt or his web sites. > > > > The references are in the README ... :) No, there are some in the sample HTML files as well. Dave... -- Don't dream it... be it |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 11:48:27
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On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 11:12:32AM +0000, Jonathan Stowe (gel...@ge...) wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Dave Cross wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 03:50:59PM -0500, Alex BATKO (ab...@mi...) wrote: > > > > > > > > As a side note, in the DESCRIPTION section of the FAQ, you wrote: > > > > "This document seeks to some of the questions" > > > > but i think you meant: > > > > "This document seeks to answer some of the questions" > > > > > > You're right of course. I'll fix it today. > > > > > > > I think that I already did that :) > > > > Ah, I fixed it in the FAQ.pod but not on the website .... OK, I'll add "regenerating the FAQ HTML from the POD" to my list of things to do today. Dave... -- .sig missing... |
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From: Jonathan S. <gel...@ge...> - 2002-01-27 11:12:56
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Dave Cross wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 03:50:59PM -0500, Alex BATKO (ab...@mi...) wrote: > > > > > > As a side note, in the DESCRIPTION section of the FAQ, you wrote: > > > "This document seeks to some of the questions" > > > but i think you meant: > > > "This document seeks to answer some of the questions" > > > > You're right of course. I'll fix it today. > > > > I think that I already did that :) > Ah, I fixed it in the FAQ.pod but not on the website .... /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | <http://www.gellyfish.com> | This space for rent | |
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From: Jonathan S. <gel...@ge...> - 2002-01-27 11:09:57
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, _m0ren0 _ wrote: > >This is the reason that we haven't made an *official* release > >of wwwboard - its there in the CVS and so forth but it still > >sucks badly and I don't think anyone would be happy to put > >their name to it right now :) > > >We would love help with the documentation - all of the README files are > >going to have to be rewritten, mostly the required information can be > >found in the comments in the code. > > > well... how is it one goes about contributing ? if i was to try and hack > at some code for wwwboard would i just havea go then send it in to you > guys and u coordinate what gets included or not ? or should i look at > some docs to be re-written ? or stay outa the way ? > If you are already a sourceforge member then you can be made a developer on the NMS project which will give you access to the CVS, if Dave doesn't notice this then give him a prod in a while :) /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | <http://www.gellyfish.com> | This space for rent | |
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From: Jonathan S. <gel...@ge...> - 2002-01-27 11:05:07
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Dave Cross wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 03:50:59PM -0500, Alex BATKO (ab...@mi...) wrote: > > > > As a side note, in the DESCRIPTION section of the FAQ, you wrote: > > "This document seeks to some of the questions" > > but i think you meant: > > "This document seeks to answer some of the questions" > > You're right of course. I'll fix it today. > I think that I already did that :) /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | <http://www.gellyfish.com> | This space for rent | |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 09:02:45
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On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 12:17:19PM +0100, Lukas Ertl (l....@un...) wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Joseph F. Ryan wrote: > > > One thing that you'll learn is that we HAVE TO be backwards compatible with > > MWS. Unfortunately, that includes keeping similarly named configuration > > variable names. Its sad, and may seem stupid at times, but breaking this > > rule defeats the whole purpose for nms in the first place. > > I don't quite understand why one has to be backwards compatible in > variable names, but if these are the rules, it's ok. It depends. If the variable is a completely internal one then please feel free to call it whatever you want (subject to good variable naming conventions of course!) If the variable is one of the configuration variables that the user sets then I think that sticking with Matt's name is advisable as people will be used to using Matt's name and they may get confused if they can't find a variable with the expected name. On the other hand. If one of Matt's variables is really badly named, then I have no objection to changing the name - as long as change is well-documented both in comments in the code an in the README file. Please run any suggestions for changes past this list first tho'. In this particular case if the variable contains a URL and the name implies that it's a file path then I think that renaming it would be a good idea. I'll make the change today. > Attached is a new README for rand_image. I hope I got right what you > wanted. That was one of the ones that I was going to do today. Thanks for cutting down on my workload :) It looks fine. Dave... -- "Don't you boys know any _nice_ songs?" |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 08:53:31
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On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 08:42:17PM +0000, Jonathan Stowe (gel...@ge...) wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, _m0ren0 _ wrote: > > > i don't really understand what this mailing list thing is about... would > > it not be easier to have a bbs board or summit to discuss this stuff on > > ? > > > > Nah, mail is lovely lightweight and asynchronous, I can read and reply to > this stuff on a laptop in a desert in the heart of abyssinia if I care to > :) You might have noticed that we haven't released a wwwboard yet .... Just to back up what Jonathan said. Personally I read email _far_ more often than I'd follow a web board. But we do have web-based forums at <http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=39625> I that's what you need :) Cheers, Dave... -- .sig missing... |
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From: Dave C. <da...@da...> - 2002-01-27 08:51:10
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On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 03:50:59PM -0500, Alex BATKO (ab...@mi...) wrote: > > +------------------- > | On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 10:53:07AM -0500, Alex BATKO (ab...@mi...) wrote: > | > > | > On the nms project's "news" page: > | > https://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=39625 > | > > | > there is a link titled "Project FAQ" which leads > | > to the following url > | > https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=127095 > | > > | > which in turn has a link to another url > | > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=7962&group_id=39625 > | > > | > I think that the above url is supposed to contain the FAQ, > | > but instead I get "Page not found". > | > | That link works for me. But the page takes a while to load. Can you try > | it again please. > | > | Or the alternative URL is <http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/FAQ.html> > +------------------- > > I promise that it doesn't load - i just tried it again. > Maybe yours is loading from cache ? This is very strange. No matter what I do, I can't get it to fail. Has anyone else tried? > As a side note, in the DESCRIPTION section of the FAQ, you wrote: > "This document seeks to some of the questions" > but i think you meant: > "This document seeks to answer some of the questions" You're right of course. I'll fix it today. As a side note, Alex, this is a clsed mailing list. It only automatically accepts emails from member. I've been approving your posts (which might explain why they take a little time to appear). You might consider joining the list from the page at <http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nms-cgi-devel> Thanks, Dave... -- Don't dream it... be it |
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From: Nick C. <ni...@cl...> - 2002-01-27 08:31:25
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 11:04:06PM +0000, Dave Cross wrote: > > I've done the README in countdown, so you've got an example to work from > (note that's in CVS - not been released yet). I'll do all the smaller > scripts (ffa, rand_image, rand_link, rand_text, ssi_rand_image, textclock > and textcounter). If others could volunteer to take on formmail, guestbook, > search and wwwboard I'd be grateful. I'm starting on formmail now. -- Nick |
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From: Jeremy H. <jh_...@fa...> - 2002-01-27 03:22:51
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I don't know if you folks have seen this advisory: http://www.monkeys.com/anti-spam/formmail-advisory.pdf I've contacted the author and he claims that many of the listed vunerabilities are also present in the current NMS version of this script. I checked whether he had informed you and he told me that he hasn't, and that he doesn't plan to. I don't have any more details--I just figured I'd pass on this info... |
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From: Joseph F. R. <rya...@os...> - 2002-01-27 02:22:47
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At 06:51 PM 1/26/2002 +0000, you wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Lukas Ertl wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Joseph F. Ryan wrote: > > > One thing that you'll learn is that we HAVE TO be backwards compatible with > > MWS. Unfortunately, that includes keeping similarly named configuration > > variable names. Its sad, and may seem stupid at times, but breaking this > > rule defeats the whole purpose for nms in the first place. > > I don't quite understand why one has to be backwards compatible in > variable names, but if these are the rules, it's ok. > I'm not absolutely sure why either - I thought that the compatibility thing was only with respect to the inputs and outputs but ho-hum :) Do we really want to confuse people any more than we have to? I thought the goal is pretty much for them to be able to lift their existing config and plug it into the new one. Hence, drag and drop in :) /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe |<http://www.gellyfish.com> | This space for rent | _______________________________________________ Nms-cgi-devel mailing list Nms...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nms-cgi-devel |
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From: Jonathan S. <gel...@ge...> - 2002-01-27 00:23:17
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, _m0ren0 _ wrote: > you haven't released a wwwboard ?? i thought i downloaded one... ??? > though it didn't seem much better than the original... hmmm... ?? i This is the reason that we haven't made an *official* release of wwwboard - its there in the CVS and so forth but it still sucks badly and I don't think anyone would be happy to put their name to it right now :) > have lotsa them lying around in various incarnations, but ur whole > "gotta plug-in to matts" policy may get in the way there. kinda stoopid > if ya ask me. but, are there any plans to develop new programs when all > the re-writing is done ?? > It might seem like an absurd constraint being backward compatible with the existing programs but if we are going to tackle the installed base of CGI programs we are going to have to continue with this, much the same as we aim to work for a vanilla 5.004.04 installation. > i noticed u were havin probs with documentation. i'm pretty shitty at > that kinda stuff (not that i claim to be a perl guru either), but i am > willing to help out anywhere i could be of any help. > We would love help with the documentation - all of the README files are going to have to be rewritten, mostly the required information can be found in the comments in the code. > and concerning the usefulness of mailing lists... why would it be easier > to get email than connect to the web ? or am i just being dumb ? > I can download hundreds of e-mails and then disconnect from the network, read them and make replies and then at some point of my choosing I can reconnect to the network and the replies will be transmitted. This doesn't work with web based messaging. /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | <http://www.gellyfish.com> | This space for rent | |
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From: Jonathan S. <gel...@ge...> - 2002-01-26 22:15:33
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Dave Cross wrote: > > One other thing. In the email to SourceForge Matt mentions references to > his web site still being in rand_image and ssi_rand_image. When looking at > these files can you please make very sure that we remove all references to > Matt or his web sites. > The references are in the README ... :) /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | <http://www.gellyfish.com> | This space for rent | |
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