Re: [Nmrshiftdb-users] Bugfix release 1.0.1

[Egon W. <eg...@sc...>]

On Monday 01 December 2003 10:51, Stefan Kuhn wrote:
> > I can only find a 1.0 release on SourceForge...
>
> I did not yet find time to put things on the upload page. I will do this
> today.

Would be better to put things first online for download, and then send out the 
announcements...

> > > There are also some new features, most
> > > notably the rating system, which enables users to vote on the quality
> > > of entries (for detailed information, see
> > > http://www.nmrshiftdb.org/portal/pane0/Help?URL=using.html#rating).
> >
> > Is this a good idea? In my opiniion a record is correct or not, i.e.:
> > - the assignment is correct or not
> > - the Mhz of the apparatus determines some quality parameters
> >    on the position, but that's just experimental details...
> >
> > But why add a voting system? Why would a vote be better than the original
> > entry? Can anyone vote? Even people with less experience than the
> > submitter? I'm not confinced that this is a good idea... (please convince
> > me)...
>
> Obviously you are right with this. Data is either wrong or right, but the
> question is how to determine this? Also the reviewers are not able to see
> errors. So our idea was to enable the accumlation of opinions. 

I can agree with this view.

> For example,
> a user recently suggested that something must be wrong with the assignments
> of Strychnine. 

Then he should file a bug report... an extensive one, not just a voting 
system... it's to limited... if he thinks its wrong, then he should give his 
arguments why the entry is wrong... and these arguments can be reviewed, and 
if considered valid, the entry should be revised, *and* keep the original 
'bad' entry for archieval purposes... in other words, add a new spectrum to 
the database with the corrected assignments, and *keep* the original, but 
deprecate it so that it no longer shows on the website...

> Now he could give this opinion in a more formal way. Note
> that spectra never get deleteted because of a rating, 

I think a spectrum should *never* be deleted what soever, just deprecated into 
a archival database... it's important to track down the complete history of a 
structure...

> they only are no
> longer used for predictions if the mark falls below 5 (this can never
> happen due to a single vote). Christoph and me get noticed if this happens,
> so we can have a look at it. We will see if the rating system is used. If
> it is not accepted, it's OK for me as well.

We'll see what happens...

> Thanks for comments.

Thanks for taking them seriously.

Egon