I notice that the bold active tab in the Nedit server (nc) is not there in NEdit 5.7 whereas it is bold in Nedit 5.5. This is very handy for quickly identifying the active file beging editted of many tabs. Anyone know how to get the active tab to be bold in NEdit 5.7?
Thanks,
Jordan Krim
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This shows all menu items as bold but it also causes the open tab to be bold (although tabs that start with "m" and possibly others don't look totally bold to me) and the unopened tabs are not bold. Better than nothing. I will keep looking for a another pernaps better solution.
Jordan
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NEdit is supposed to display the active tab's filename in black, while the non-active in gray, which is correct in my build with Motif 2.3.8 on Linux Mint. Can you share any screenshot to show how it looks like on your side?
NEdit is supposed to display the active tab's filename in black, while the non-active in gray, which is correct in my build with Motif 2.3.8 on Linux Mint. Can you share any screenshot to
From what I see, the issue you have might be caused by the default font that is a little too small, so the active tab doesn't look prominent enough even the color (black) is correctly displayed. And the tabs' 3D appearance might also be affect by the small font too.
You can try playing the resources like the example below, which darken the background color of the inactive tabs, making the the active tab easier to spot:
BTW, in case you haven't already done so, perhaps you should try it on the command line first to verify that it works. Please refer to my reply to Xuo on the typo (missing asterisks) in my xrm mods.
Last edit: TK Soh 2020-11-11
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The problem that I have is that it works on the command line, but when I try adding these lines to my nedit.rc, it doesn't work. I end up with tiny font and no back or foreground highlighting and very hard to distinguish the active tab from the inactive tab:
BTW, in case you have already done so, perhaps you should try it on the command line first to verify that it works. Please refer to my reply to Xuo on the typo (missing asterisks) in my xrm mods.
As I mentioned earlier, you should NOT put these X resources into nedit.rc. If you are on X11, then they should go into .Xdefaults or .Xresource, as described in NEdit's help doc (see my earlier reply).
For quick checking, you can use the 'xrdb -merge <filename>' command activate these xrm.</filename>
BTW, I noticed you are not setting the background color of the inactive tabs with you config. Not sure that's intended. Personally, it works better than tweaking the foreground (font and color).
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My apology. Looks like SF quietly swallowed the asterisk characters in front of 'XmFolder' in my earlier reply, since they used the characters for text formatting. It should be like below:
Yes, it really works better with the "*". It is interesting to have this feature. I'll try to implement it at work as well.
And about the nedit version displayed in the "Help" window ? Is it expected to have this 14 Jan 2017 date ?
Regards.
Xuo.
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I agree. But it's not easy to find the correct variable name and syntax to do the job. Well, modifying the source code is not easy neither.
And about the date, it would be great to find a way to know which version we are using. The commit value is not really self-explaining.
Regards.
Xuo.
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for the ordinary end users, hacking the source code is out of their scope, obviously. Coming back to think about this, we probably should have done a better job in sharing the information on that topic. It's just amazing how things like this could crop up after so many years of nedit's existence.
On the version issue, I'm not quite sure what you are trying to find out. In most production environment, they should really be only one version of nedit deployed. The version info are typically used when reporting issues. Maybe you can elaborate a little.
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This whole thread started because NEdit 5.7 the source code was apparently set for the tabs to 9 point font which is very tiny. In NEdit 5.5 it was 12. Also, in NEdit 5.7 the difference between the active tab and inactive tabs is indistinguishable. In NEdit 5.5 the active tab is bold enough to tell the difference between it and inactive tabs. I just wish the developers would not have changed this. It was good as is and it became degraded in NEdit 5.7. Just my opinion.
Under normal circumstances, changing the font via X resource is the better way - actually that's what they are intended, namely user customization.
I agree. But it's not easy to find the correct variable name and syntax to do the job. Well, modifying the source code is not easy neither.
And about the date, it would be great to find a way to know which version we are using. The commit value is not really self-explaining.
According to the change history, the fonts were 'upgraded' in version 5.7 to support the high-DPI screens that are very common these days. Even with that change, the new fonts did not post an issue, at least not on my 24-inch screen with 1080P resolution.
I can see from your screenshots that your menu font seems very small. I am not sure if that's caused by the theming setting on you system (common in modern WM like KDE, gnome, etc). In any case, that's what xrm is for, to allow users to customize or even workaround any X-server related issues, which you appears to have one now ;-)
The way I see it, you have three possible solution:
1. Use my xrm settings to change the appearance of the tabs (which I now actually feel should have been the default since the beginning :-)
2. Use Xuo's setting of -xrm "*defaultRT.fontSize: 12", which I also tested to confirm it works
3. switch back to use NEdit 5.5 if it's available to you
Let me know if you have any questions or comments.
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Hello,
I notice that the bold active tab in the Nedit server (nc) is not there in NEdit 5.7 whereas it is bold in Nedit 5.5. This is very handy for quickly identifying the active file beging editted of many tabs. Anyone know how to get the active tab to be bold in NEdit 5.7?
Thanks,
Jordan Krim
Hi,
It looks like this post :
https://sourceforge.net/p/nedit/discussion/34508/thread/ad8ebdb4/
I hope you'll find a way. I didn't but I'm interested in.
Regards.
Xuo.
Here is a potential solution:
nc -svrcmd "nedit -xrm 'neditfontList: --helvetica-bold-medium-r---12-----*-iso8859-1' -server"
This shows all menu items as bold but it also causes the open tab to be bold (although tabs that start with "m" and possibly others don't look totally bold to me) and the unopened tabs are not bold. Better than nothing. I will keep looking for a another pernaps better solution.
Jordan
NEdit is supposed to display the active tab's filename in black, while the non-active in gray, which is correct in my build with Motif 2.3.8 on Linux Mint. Can you share any screenshot to show how it looks like on your side?
I've attached my screenshot for comparison.
Last edit: TK Soh 2020-11-08
This is with my fix using Motif 2.3.3:
[cid:ff730d93-0707-4f33-80af-05cc0bc8dd8a]
Without my fix this is what I get:
[cid:46467dd6-d12c-488f-8607-35fd58ccd645]
Not only can't I tell which one is highlighted, the font is very small.
Jordan
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NEdit is supposed to display the active tab's filename in black, while the non-active in gray, which is correct in my build with Motif 2.3.8 on Linux Mint. Can you share any screenshot to
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From what I see, the issue you have might be caused by the default font that is a little too small, so the active tab doesn't look prominent enough even the color (black) is correctly displayed. And the tabs' 3D appearance might also be affect by the small font too.
You can try playing the resources like the example below, which darken the background color of the inactive tabs, making the the active tab easier to spot:
$ nedit -xrm 'XmLFolder.inactiveBackground: #999' \
-xrm 'XmLFolder.inactiveForeground: #fff' nedit.c nedit.h
BTW, here's the screenshot of my mod with the xrm
Also, you probably already know this, but you can save the X resource into the files per NEdit's help doc (Help->Customizing-> X resources)
I tried to put them in my nedit.rc, but it just seems to ignore them.
Jordan
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Also, you probably already know this, but you can save the X resource into the files per NEdit's help doc (Help->Customizing-> X resources)
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Not in nedit.rc. Please see attach screenshot of the help doc I am referring to
BTW, in case you haven't already done so, perhaps you should try it on the command line first to verify that it works. Please refer to my reply to Xuo on the typo (missing asterisks) in my xrm mods.
Last edit: TK Soh 2020-11-11
The problem that I have is that it works on the command line, but when I try adding these lines to my nedit.rc, it doesn't work. I end up with tiny font and no back or foreground highlighting and very hard to distinguish the active tab from the inactive tab:
neditfontList: --helvetica-bold-medium-r---12------iso8859-1
neditXmLFolder.inactiveForeground: #666
I have also tried and doesn't work:
neditfontList: helvetica bold medium 12 points
neditXmLFolder.inactiveForeground: #666
Jordan
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BTW, in case you have already done so, perhaps you should try it on the command line first to verify that it works. Please refer to my reply to Xuo on the typo (missing asterisks) in my xrm mods.
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As I mentioned earlier, you should NOT put these X resources into nedit.rc. If you are on X11, then they should go into .Xdefaults or .Xresource, as described in NEdit's help doc (see my earlier reply).
For quick checking, you can use the 'xrdb -merge <filename>' command activate these xrm.</filename>
BTW, I noticed you are not setting the background color of the inactive tabs with you config. Not sure that's intended. Personally, it works better than tweaking the foreground (font and color).
Hi,
I've just downloaded the latest git version of nedit and tried :
./source/nedit -xrm 'XmLFolder.inactiveBackground: #999' -xrm 'XmLFolder.inactiveForeground: #fff' ~/.tcshrc ~/.aliases
but I couldn't get the same look than the one displayed in :
https://sourceforge.net/p/nedit/discussion/34507/thread/9eb2464a90/1bf9/94f4/ad6f/9096/fdee/80bd/attachment/2020-11-10%2016_18_06-Window.jpg
But what I don't understand is that when I look at the nedit version, I get an old one (see attached image).
Regards.
Xuo.
Last edit: ericxuo 2020-11-10
My apology. Looks like SF quietly swallowed the asterisk characters in front of 'XmFolder' in my earlier reply, since they used the characters for text formatting. It should be like below:
./source/nedit -xrm '*XmLFolder.inactiveBackground: #999' -xrm '*XmLFolder.inactiveForeground: #fff' ~/.tcshrc ~/.aliases
Hi,
Yes, it really works better with the "*". It is interesting to have this feature. I'll try to implement it at work as well.
And about the nedit version displayed in the "Help" window ? Is it expected to have this 14 Jan 2017 date ?
Regards.
Xuo.
In a nutshell, the version string is hardcoded into the source, which is usually updated prior to a release. You can see it in the git log as below...
Last edit: TK Soh 2020-11-12
Hi,
About bigger fonts in the tabs, if I remember correctly, I modified in source/nedit.c the line with :
"*defaultRT.fontSize: 9",
by :
"*defaultRT.fontSize: 12",
Xuo.
Under normal circumstances, changing the font via X resource is the better way - actually that's what they are intended, namely user customization.
Hi,
I agree. But it's not easy to find the correct variable name and syntax to do the job. Well, modifying the source code is not easy neither.
And about the date, it would be great to find a way to know which version we are using. The commit value is not really self-explaining.
Regards.
Xuo.
for the ordinary end users, hacking the source code is out of their scope, obviously. Coming back to think about this, we probably should have done a better job in sharing the information on that topic. It's just amazing how things like this could crop up after so many years of nedit's existence.
On the version issue, I'm not quite sure what you are trying to find out. In most production environment, they should really be only one version of nedit deployed. The version info are typically used when reporting issues. Maybe you can elaborate a little.
All,
This whole thread started because NEdit 5.7 the source code was apparently set for the tabs to 9 point font which is very tiny. In NEdit 5.5 it was 12. Also, in NEdit 5.7 the difference between the active tab and inactive tabs is indistinguishable. In NEdit 5.5 the active tab is bold enough to tell the difference between it and inactive tabs. I just wish the developers would not have changed this. It was good as is and it became degraded in NEdit 5.7. Just my opinion.
Jordan
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Subject: [nedit:discussion] Bold active tab in Ndit
Hi,
Under normal circumstances, changing the font via X resource is the better way - actually that's what they are intended, namely user customization.
I agree. But it's not easy to find the correct variable name and syntax to do the job. Well, modifying the source code is not easy neither.
And about the date, it would be great to find a way to know which version we are using. The commit value is not really self-explaining.
Regards.
Xuo.
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According to the change history, the fonts were 'upgraded' in version 5.7 to support the high-DPI screens that are very common these days. Even with that change, the new fonts did not post an issue, at least not on my 24-inch screen with 1080P resolution.
I can see from your screenshots that your menu font seems very small. I am not sure if that's caused by the theming setting on you system (common in modern WM like KDE, gnome, etc). In any case, that's what xrm is for, to allow users to customize or even workaround any X-server related issues, which you appears to have one now ;-)
The way I see it, you have three possible solution:
1. Use my xrm settings to change the appearance of the tabs (which I now actually feel should have been the default since the beginning :-)
2. Use Xuo's setting of -xrm "*defaultRT.fontSize: 12", which I also tested to confirm it works
3. switch back to use NEdit 5.5 if it's available to you
Let me know if you have any questions or comments.