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Hi everybody,

I hope I can help to this Project.
I'm a RPG fanatic for many years, but I don't have the experience in =
game developing. So, I think we can learn each other.
Thanks everybody.

Hi all,
I found a link to a website with many
screen shots of the game Land Stalker:

http://s5.rpgclassics.com/landstalker/index.shtml

This is *approximately* the graphical aim of MyRPG
for now ;) (The game is 9 year olds though).

Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre

In fact, it is the MyRPG working draft ;)

-----Message d'origine-----
De : myr...@li...
[mailto:myr...@li...]De la part de
St=E9phane LEMAIRE
Envoy=E9 : mardi 12 f=E9vrier 2002 18:39
=C0 : Myrpg-Dev; nam...@re...
Objet : [Myrpg-development] RE: UML designer for an internet based RPG

What do you want to know ?

The purpose, the aim of UML design for MyRPG
or
Informations on how to join, where to find working drafts and first
specifications

In the first case, the answer is :
MyRPG is a huge project, composed of three part (Atlas, HiCare, Holy
Factory), that's why we (Loic and I) think the best way to succesfully bu=
ild
MyRPG is to use Specifications and UML design to fix MyRPG goals and trac=
k
devloppement progress. Moreover, we'd like to use EJBs which are strongly
linked to UML design.
The main task of UML designer will be to transform specification in UML
diagrams : Use-Case, Class and Objects (perhaps others could be interesti=
ng
for GUI or Web Sites...). So the developpement could start.

In the second case, the answer is :
You can find HiCare first specifications on MyRPG web site :
http://myrpg.sourceforge.net/static/specs/hicare_specs.html.
You can find Atlas working draft at :
http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=3D9469&group_id=3D450=
52
Another document can be found at :
http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=3D9251&group_id=3D450=
52

	Hope you'll join us,

		and sorry for my response delay ;-p

			GoLo

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De : nobody [mailto:no...@so...]De la part de arvind kumar
Envoy=E9 : mardi 12 f=E9vrier 2002 08:07
=C0 : lle...@fi...
Objet : RE: UML designer for an internet based RPG

Please send me the relevant information for the purpose.
thank you,

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What do you want to know ?

The purpose, the aim of UML design for MyRPG
or
Informations on how to join, where to find working drafts and first
specifications

In the first case, the answer is :
MyRPG is a huge project, composed of three part (Atlas, HiCare, Holy
Factory), that's why we (Loic and I) think the best way to succesfully bu=
ild
MyRPG is to use Specifications and UML design to fix MyRPG goals and trac=
k
devloppement progress. Moreover, we'd like to use EJBs which are strongly
linked to UML design.
The main task of UML designer will be to transform specification in UML
diagrams : Use-Case, Class and Objects (perhaps others could be interesti=
ng
for GUI or Web Sites...). So the developpement could start.

In the second case, the answer is :
You can find HiCare first specifications on MyRPG web site :
http://myrpg.sourceforge.net/static/specs/hicare_specs.html.
You can find Atlas working draft at :
http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=3D9469&group_id=3D450=
52
Another document can be found at :
http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=3D9251&group_id=3D450=
52

	Hope you'll join us,

		and sorry for my response delay ;-p

			GoLo

-----Message d'origine-----
De : nobody [mailto:no...@so...]De la part de arvind kumar
Envoy=E9 : mardi 12 f=E9vrier 2002 08:07
=C0 : lle...@fi...
Objet : RE: UML designer for an internet based RPG

Please send me the relevant information for the purpose.
thank you,

Indeed,
I and Golo think that too but the fact is that we are just
beginner with the UML design process so what we can do for now (I
speak for me) is to explain in english what are the aim of each sub
project.

To transform these aims into UML is an other thing and we count
on 'UML designer' ( ;) ) to help us to make UML/Spec from the goals.

Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre (discussion not closed !)

note: a short description of what the Atlas server must do is available
in this mailing list...

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De : myr...@li...
[mailto:myr...@li...]De la part de
Alexey Maslov
Envoy=E9 : dimanche 10 f=E9vrier 2002 20:02
=C0 : myr...@li...
Objet : [Myrpg-development] Re: [Task #47010] User EJB

Hi all,

  I think that it's too early to code EJBs. We should complete
analysis and design first.

nsn> Project: MyRPG
nsn> Subproject: Atlas
nsn> Summary: User EJB
nsn> Complete: 75%
nsn> Status: Open
nsn> Authority  : myrpg
nsn> Assigned to: myrpg, garethfleming, almaslov

nsn> Description: Create an EJB called User.
nsn> For now it will be a CMP entity that will store the data of a user.
That is to say:
nsn> - java.lang.Integer primary key
nsn> - first name
nsn> - last name
nsn> - age
nsn> - email
nsn> - login
nsn> - password

nsn> Follow-Ups:

nsn> -------------------------------------------------------
nsn> Date: 2002-02-07 12:05
nsn> By: myrpg

nsn> Comment:
nsn> Also comments are needed ;)

nsn> -------------------------------------------------------
nsn> Date: 2002-02-07 12:02
nsn> By: myrpg

nsn> Comment:
nsn> Because the sequencer works now, we can begin to think about the Use=
r
EJB, apart the common attributs, let's look for what is needed to know:
nsn> - role (developer, player, administrator...)
nsn> - last time logged
nsn> - status (if a user don't play since 6 months, the status is passed =
to
'unused' thus the user can not login any more...)
nsn> - total time connected
nsn> ...

nsn> -------------------------------------------------------
nsn> For more info, visit:

nsn>
http://sourceforge.net/pm/task.php?func=3Ddetailtask&project_task_id=3D47=
010&gro
up_id=3D45052&group_project_id=3D16803

--
Best regards,
 Alexey                            mailto:ma...@uk...

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Hi all,

  I think that it's too early to code EJBs. We should complete
analysis and design first.

nsn> Project: MyRPG
nsn> Subproject: Atlas
nsn> Summary: User EJB
nsn> Complete: 75%
nsn> Status: Open
nsn> Authority  : myrpg
nsn> Assigned to: myrpg, garethfleming, almaslov

nsn> Description: Create an EJB called User.
nsn> For now it will be a CMP entity that will store the data of a user. That is to say:
nsn> - java.lang.Integer primary key
nsn> - first name
nsn> - last name
nsn> - age
nsn> - email
nsn> - login
nsn> - password

nsn> Follow-Ups:

nsn> -------------------------------------------------------
nsn> Date: 2002-02-07 12:05
nsn> By: myrpg

nsn> Comment:
nsn> Also comments are needed ;)

nsn> -------------------------------------------------------
nsn> Date: 2002-02-07 12:02
nsn> By: myrpg

nsn> Comment:
nsn> Because the sequencer works now, we can begin to think about the User EJB, apart the common attributs, let's look for what is needed to know: 
nsn> - role (developer, player, administrator...)
nsn> - last time logged
nsn> - status (if a user don't play since 6 months, the status is passed to 'unused' thus the user can not login any more...)
nsn> - total time connected
nsn> ...

nsn> -------------------------------------------------------
nsn> For more info, visit:

nsn> http://sourceforge.net/pm/task.php?func=detailtask&project_task_id=47010&group_id=45052&group_project_id=16803

-- 
Best regards,
 Alexey                            mailto:ma...@uk...

Massive as my contribution has been to the project (***SARCASM***), I'm 
afraid  I must bow out. Work pressures mean that I will no longer have 
much time to devote to any of the projects I've been 'working' on. 
Rather than do a half-hearted job, I thought it best if I simply leave 
it. I wish I could have contributed more than I have to this point, and 
I also wish I could continue, but, quite simply, I can't.

I wish you all the best.

Gareth Fleming.

Hi all,
The user registration process is available in the "Documentation"
part (5 screen shots).

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=3D9412&group_id=3D450=
52

Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre

Hi,
A job has just been posted.

We are searching for a main developer for Holy Factory,
see:

   http://sourceforge.net/people/viewjob.php?group_id=3D45052&job_id=3D65=
16

If you are interested, you know what to do ;D

Cheers,
Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre

Hi all,
We have found the installer we will use for our futur installations:
- Atlas
- HiCare

It's name is IzPack and is available at:

                    http://www.izforge.com/izpack/

The installation description is made in XML and is quite simple to use.
It is free and platform independent (java...).

Hope we will use it soon!

Have a good week-end ;),
Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre

I live in Kiev, Ukraine. Our local time is GMT+2.

-----Original Message-----
From: LoОc LefХvre <lle...@fi...>
To: "MyRPG Dev ML" <myr...@li...>
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 19:21:32 +0100
Subject: [Myrpg-development] Are you awake?

> Hi,
> A last word, could every body who receive this mail reply
> with their Country/City, to know when you sleep? ;)
> 
> But... but... ^ ^; are you all sleeping for now?
> Please answer me!
> 
> LoОc LefХvre - definitely alone?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                                
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> Myr...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/myrpg-development
> 

I (like you Lo=EFc ;-) are French, and live in Paris...

	GoLo

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre [mailto:lle...@fi...]
Envoy=E9 : jeudi 7 f=E9vrier 2002 10:47
=C0 : St=E9phane Lemaire
Objet : TR: [Myrpg-development] Are you awake?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Gareth Fleming [mailto:ga...@jo...]
Envoy=E9 : jeudi 7 f=E9vrier 2002 10:45
=C0 : Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre
Objet : Re: [Myrpg-development] Are you awake?

Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre wrote:

>Hi,
>A last word, could every body who receive this mail reply
>with their Country/City, to know when you sleep? ;)
>
>But... but... ^_^; are you all sleeping for now?
>Please answer me!
>
>Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre - definitely alone?
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
I usually appear to be asleep all the time anyway! I live in N.Ireland,
so I'm running on GMT.

no...@so... wrote:

>Task #47012 has been updated. 
>
>Project: MyRPG
>Subproject: Atlas
>Summary: Sequencer EJB
>Complete: 35%
>Status: Open
>Authority  : myrpg
>Assigned to: myrpg, garethfleming
>
>Description: Create a Sequencer EJB that will automatically create primary keys for objects.
>An article is available at:
>http://www.theserverside.com/resources/review/ejbpatterns-primarykeystrategies-sept3.zip
>
>Questions appears:
>Does JBoss 2.4.4 + catalina 4.0.1 (the application we are using) support both CMP 1.0 and CMP 2.X versions?
>
>Follow-Ups:
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Date: 2002-02-06 19:13
>By: myrpg
>
>Comment:
>Well, since the sequencer, we (or I ;) ) would like to use can't run on the version 2.4.4 of JBoss, we will wait for the 3.0 version for this sequencer.
>
>For now, we can concentrate on another approach. If any of you has got an idea, I will look for it from now...
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Date: 2002-01-31 19:03
>By: myrpg
>
>Comment:
>Hi,
>first task for the two of us:
>Use/modify the Sequence EJB. 
>Have you the answer to the question?
>
>thanks
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>For more info, visit:
>
>http://sourceforge.net/pm/task.php?func=detailtask&project_task_id=47012&group_id=45052&group_project_id=16803
>
Isn't the only problem with the Sequencer that it uses the local 
interface of the Sequencer Entity Bean? If that were so, we could get 
around it by simply using the remote interface of the Entity bean until 
JBoss 3 becomes stable enough to switch back. There would be a small 
performance hit, but nothing too extreme.

Gareth

Hi,
A last word, could every body who receive this mail reply
with their Country/City, to know when you sleep? ;)

But... but... ^_^; are you all sleeping for now?
Please answer me!

Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre - definitely alone?

Hi all,
Since the sequencer, we (or I ;) ) would like to use
can't run on the version 2.4.4 of JBoss, we will wait
for the 3.0 version for this sequencer.

For now, we can concentrate on another approach.
If any of you has got an idea, I will look for it
from now...

At last, can avoid to use the local interfaces and
make a CMP 1.1 compatible version of this Sequencer?
Maybe it is the right way...

Cheers,
Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre

Hi,
The user registration form is committed into the 
MyRPG repository! :D

Tests with EJBs from a JSP page: OK!

If it support data transfer from Atlas slave to HiCare, it should be fast
enough to support some travel between two Atlas slaves.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : myr...@li...
[mailto:myr...@li...]De la part de Lo=EF=
c
Lef=E8vre
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 6 f=E9vrier 2002 15:22
=C0 : MyRPG Dev ML
Objet : RE: [Myrpg-development] Atlas Server Specification (WD)

Why not... may the connection be fast enough for all this huge
network traffic then... :-o

-----Message d'origine-----
De : myr...@li...
[mailto:myr...@li...]De la part de
St=E9phane LEMAIRE
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 6 f=E9vrier 2002 17:21
=C0 : MyRPG Dev ML
Objet : RE: [Myrpg-development] Atlas Server Specification (WD)

>From me, it's the Master.

But we must think about AI, NPC should, when they travel from a Region to
another, carry with them their goals (what they are trying to do).

This will enable huge possibilities and epic quests where NPCs are involv=
ed
as well as PCs.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : myr...@li...
[mailto:myr...@li...]De la part de Lo=EF=
c
Lef=E8vre
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 6 f=E9vrier 2002 15:00
=C0 : MyRPG Dev ML
Objet : RE: [Myrpg-development] Atlas Server Specification (WD)

WARNING WHEN REPLYING, REPLACE WITH THE MYRPG-DEVELOPMENT ADDRESS :(
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Okay with you to store the different files on the master
server (HiCare kernel, graphics...) thus the update is
easy to do ;)

A question comes from your words: which server should
handle the persistence of the NPC?

The slave server?
That is to say, the NPC can't go from an area to an other

or

The master server?
And then no problem if the NPC will travel from an area to
an other one.

the question is pending...

-----Message d'origine-----
De : myr...@li...
[mailto:myr...@li...]De la part de
St=E9phane LEMAIRE
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 6 f=E9vrier 2002 16:52
=C0 : MyRPG Dev ML
Objet : RE: [Myrpg-development] Atlas Server Specification (WD)

At my mind the main goals of Atlas Master is to :
- Define a World which is composed of Regions (Atlas Slave)
- Maintain persistence (with ID or Primary Key) for all objects that can
move from a Region to another.
- Maintain informations on his slaves to provide access to them to HiCare
(this includes the last Atlas slave where a character was).

Whereas Atlas Slaves should only :
- Handle all action/events that append on the Region its represents (that=
 is
role playing rules : fight, artificial life, etc...).

I think sprites (both graphics/sounds) should be located on the Master, a=
t
the same place as last HiCare Kernel version.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : myr...@li...
[mailto:myr...@li...]De la part de Lo=EF=
c
Lef=E8vre
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 6 f=E9vrier 2002 14:25
=C0 : MyRPG Dev ML
Objet : [Myrpg-development] Atlas Server Specification (WD)

Hi everybody,
In order to understand what we have to do,
we have to speak about the Atlas specification.
In some words:

- What Atlas must do/must not do
- Interactions with HiCare
- Interactions between Master and Slave servers.

Starting:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
As mentionned, in the technical architecture,
There is two types of Atlas server:
- ONE master
- some (or not) slave(s)

Atlas master server:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
It has to manage all the users of the world it
is assigned to. The term of "user" means a *human*
user.

The creation of one or more character(s) by a user
is stored by the master server. The term of
"character" means a virtual character who can be
created and then controlled by a user in a virtual
world.

When a character goes from a server to an other,
the url of this new server is stored into the character
status (to allow the proper reload of a disconnected game).

In fact, it is the role of the main server to manage all
the informations of the users and characters though (only)
the characters data can be stored too into a slave server.

That is for now the main differences between a master server
and a slave one. Also a master server do exactly the same
job as a slave server.

Atlas slave server:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
These servers have to manage their areas. That is to be
manage their defined part of the world (NPC, time, weather,
fights, story board, monsters, quests...).

If an interaction between two slave servers is needed, then
the process must at least inform the master server for this.

One of the most important things an Atlas slave server has
to provide is the communication of all the data/informations
needed by the HiCare client in terms of graphics (eventually
musics), but objects placements too.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Ending

This document can be seen as a working draft so feel free to
add your comments/ideas...

Thanks,
Lo=EFc Lef=E8vre

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