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From: Jan D. <ja...@ja...> - 2005-10-19 12:08:02
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Hi all: I have just learned that for some reason my website and the MyHDL website are not accessible in China. This kind of situation is new to me. Is there anyone with experience and/or suggestions on what could be done? My website is hosted on yahoo under a paid subscription plan. Regards, Jan -- Jan Decaluwe - Resources bvba - http://www.jandecaluwe.com Losbergenlaan 16, B-3010 Leuven, Belgium Electronic design with Python: http://myhdl.jandecaluwe.com |
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From: Tom D. <td...@di...> - 2005-10-19 14:27:03
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Jan, I don't know anything about that but as I have been looking for ways to contribute to MyHDL, we would be willing to host it on our servers. How about www.myhdl.org? Let me know, I will reserve the name and get it ready if you are interested. Tom Jan Decaluwe wrote: > Hi all: > > I have just learned that for some reason my website and > the MyHDL website are not accessible in China. > > This kind of situation is new to me. Is there anyone > with experience and/or suggestions on what could be done? > > My website is hosted on yahoo under a paid subscription plan. > > Regards, > > Jan > |
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From: Jan D. <ja...@ja...> - 2005-10-19 19:16:58
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Tom Dillon wrote: > Jan, > > I don't know anything about that but as I have been looking for ways to > contribute to MyHDL, we would be willing to host it on our servers. How > about www.myhdl.org? > > Let me know, I will reserve the name and get it ready if you are > interested. Thanks for the offer. But - can we be sure that your servers are unlikely to be blocked? I've in fact no idea why mine are blocked (yahoo is a big name and I pay for the service.) Regards, Jan -- Jan Decaluwe - Resources bvba - http://www.jandecaluwe.com Losbergenlaan 16, B-3010 Leuven, Belgium Electronic design with Python: http://myhdl.jandecaluwe.com |
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From: Tom D. <td...@di...> - 2005-10-19 19:39:23
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Jan, We do get inquiries from China through our web site, but I can't be sure it won't be blocked in the future. At least if you did get blocked you wouldn't be paying for the service. :-) Tom Jan Decaluwe wrote: > Tom Dillon wrote: > >> Jan, >> >> I don't know anything about that but as I have been looking for ways >> to contribute to MyHDL, we would be willing to host it on our >> servers. How about www.myhdl.org? >> >> Let me know, I will reserve the name and get it ready if you are >> interested. > > > Thanks for the offer. But - can we be sure that your > servers are unlikely to be blocked? I've in fact no > idea why mine are blocked (yahoo is a big name and I pay for > the service.) > > Regards, Jan > |
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From: Tom D. <td...@di...> - 2005-10-20 05:00:47
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Jan, We do get inquiries from China through our web site, but I can't be sure it won't be blocked in the future. At least if you did get blocked you wouldn't be paying for the service. Tom Jan Decaluwe wrote: > Tom Dillon wrote: > >> Jan, >> >> I don't know anything about that but as I have been looking for ways >> to contribute to MyHDL, we would be willing to host it on our >> servers. How about www.myhdl.org? >> >> Let me know, I will reserve the name and get it ready if you are >> interested. > > > Thanks for the offer. But - can we be sure that your > servers are unlikely to be blocked? I've in fact no > idea why mine are blocked (yahoo is a big name and I pay for > the service.) > > Regards, Jan > |
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From: <dan...@we...> - 2005-10-20 12:07:06
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Jan, Jan Decaluwe wrote: > > idea why mine are blocked (yahoo is a big name and I pay for > the service.) Recently it went through the press that Yahoo is supporting the censorship done by the Chinese government to the Internet. I wonder whether it is actually Yahoo that is not allowing the page being accessed from within China? For an article about censorship in China see the following link: http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/09/28/china11798.htm Maybe asked your Yahoo contact person for the page about that issue. It would be interesting to know whether the page was accessible before you changed it to be an wiki? I wonder whether someone is afraid that user from within China would use it to post critical content? Cheers, Guenter |
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From: nicran <ni...@gm...> - 2005-10-20 12:54:16
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I can't access this page before Jan add the wiki application. 2005/10/20, G=FCnter Dannoritzer <dan...@we...>: > Jan, > > Jan Decaluwe wrote: > > > > idea why mine are blocked (yahoo is a big name and I pay for > > the service.) > > Recently it went through the press that Yahoo is supporting the > censorship done by the Chinese government to the Internet. I wonder > whether it is actually Yahoo that is not allowing the page being > accessed from within China? > > For an article about censorship in China see the following link: > > http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/09/28/china11798.htm > > Maybe asked your Yahoo contact person for the page about that issue. > > It would be interesting to know whether the page was accessible before > you changed it to be an wiki? I wonder whether someone is afraid that > user from within China would use it to post critical content? > > Cheers, > > Guenter > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > _______________________________________________ > myhdl-list mailing list > myh...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/myhdl-list > |
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From: Jan D. <ja...@ja...> - 2005-10-20 15:45:06
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Günter Dannoritzer wrote: > Jan, > > Jan Decaluwe wrote: > >> >> idea why mine are blocked (yahoo is a big name and I pay for >> the service.) > > > Recently it went through the press that Yahoo is supporting the > censorship done by the Chinese government to the Internet. I wonder > whether it is actually Yahoo that is not allowing the page being > accessed from within China? In that case I would expect that the web sites would not turn up in a search on the chinese yahoo search engine. (cn.yahoo.com). But they do. This in contrast to baidu.com ... I can't imagine it has anything to do with MyHDL. (Although one should never underestimate the Verilog lobby :-)). I assume we are the victim of some general brute-force rule. > For an article about censorship in China see the following link: > > http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/09/28/china11798.htm > > Maybe asked your Yahoo contact person for the page about that issue. Mm, that could take a long time :-) But also here I can't imagine that this would be at yahoo's side. I read a report on the internet about someone with a similar issue. The block was at the Chinese side, and yahoo reported that "they couldn't do anything about it". I guess we would get the same answer. > It would be interesting to know whether the page was accessible before > you changed it to be an wiki? I wonder whether someone is afraid that > user from within China would use it to post critical content? As nicran said, my web site could not be accessed even before the new wik-based MyHDL subdomain was launched. So it seems a more general and earlier problem. In the mean time, I double-checked with another Chinese MyHDL user. He confirmed that the web site is not accessible. Regards, Jan -- Jan Decaluwe - Resources bvba - http://www.jandecaluwe.com Losbergenlaan 16, B-3010 Leuven, Belgium Electronic design with Python: http://myhdl.jandecaluwe.com |
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From: Jan D. <ja...@ja...> - 2005-10-22 12:33:42
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Jan Decaluwe wrote: > Günter Dannoritzer wrote: >> http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/09/28/china11798.htm >> >> Maybe asked your Yahoo contact person for the page about that issue. > > > Mm, that could take a long time :-) But also here I can't imagine that > this would be at yahoo's side. I read a report on the internet about > someone with a similar issue. The block was at the Chinese side, and > yahoo reported that "they couldn't do anything about it". I guess > we would get the same answer. Mm, I shouldn't judge too soon. In fact it was easy to get quite a reasonable (and judging from the language errors, apparently dedicated :-)) answer from Yahoo. I am including their response here in full. I have already written an e-mail to the organization they indicated. We'll see. The Yahoo response: > Hello Jan, > > Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Web Hosting. I hope this email answers > your question. > > Based on your email, I understand your concerns regarding your website > not viewable in China. > > We have tested and found that your domain is resolving. Unfortunately, > we have discovered that the Chinese government has a sophisticated > firewall set up and it will not be possible to view certain websites > while in this country. > > Your site is in fact blocked in China, but not because it contains any > "banned" content, rather, its a collateral block. Your site is hosted on > a Yahoo! server along with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of other domains > which are viewable in other countries. > > This move is China's efforts to police the Internet and follow stringent > efforts. Some features, can't be accessed from China's controlled > internet without using proxy software. > > Thus, I would recommend you to contact the Government-Connected > "Internet Society of China" and concerned ISP's for further assistance, > to get your website registered. > > www.isc.org.cn/English/ > > Please do not hesitate to reply if you need further assistance. > > Regards, > > Edith > > Yahoo! Customer Care > > For assistance with all Yahoo! services please visit: > > http://help.yahoo.com/ > > > > Original Message Follows: > ------------------------- > > Yahoo! ID: jandecaluwe > First Name: Jan > Last Name: Decaluwe > Email Address: ja...@ja... > Comments: I have learned that my web site is not accessible in China. > > Why is this so? Can you do something about that? > Subject: General troubleshooting[ Attachment 1.2 Type: text/html] > [ Attachment 1.3 Type: text/xml] -- Jan Decaluwe - Resources bvba - http://www.jandecaluwe.com Losbergenlaan 16, B-3010 Leuven, Belgium Electronic design with Python: http://myhdl.jandecaluwe.com |
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From: nicran <ni...@gm...> - 2005-10-22 14:13:08
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I guess the best solution in the current stage is using proxy to view this website in China :( 2005/10/22, Jan Decaluwe <ja...@ja...>: > Jan Decaluwe wrote: > > G=FCnter Dannoritzer wrote: > > >> http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/09/28/china11798.htm > >> > >> Maybe asked your Yahoo contact person for the page about that issue. > > > > > > Mm, that could take a long time :-) But also here I can't imagine that > > this would be at yahoo's side. I read a report on the internet about > > someone with a similar issue. The block was at the Chinese side, and > > yahoo reported that "they couldn't do anything about it". I guess > > we would get the same answer. > > Mm, I shouldn't judge too soon. In fact it was easy to get quite > a reasonable (and judging from the language errors, apparently > dedicated :-)) answer from Yahoo. I am including their response here > in full. > > I have already written an e-mail to the organization they indicated. > We'll see. > > The Yahoo response: > > > Hello Jan, > > > > Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Web Hosting. I hope this email answers > > your question. > > > > Based on your email, I understand your concerns regarding your website > > not viewable in China. > > > > We have tested and found that your domain is resolving. Unfortunately, > > we have discovered that the Chinese government has a sophisticated > > firewall set up and it will not be possible to view certain websites > > while in this country. > > > > Your site is in fact blocked in China, but not because it contains any > > "banned" content, rather, its a collateral block. Your site is hosted o= n > > a Yahoo! server along with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of other domain= s > > which are viewable in other countries. > > > > This move is China's efforts to police the Internet and follow stringen= t > > efforts. Some features, can't be accessed from China's controlled > > internet without using proxy software. > > > > Thus, I would recommend you to contact the Government-Connected > > "Internet Society of China" and concerned ISP's for further assistance, > > to get your website registered. > > > > www.isc.org.cn/English/ > > > > Please do not hesitate to reply if you need further assistance. > > > > Regards, > > > > Edith > > > > Yahoo! Customer Care > > > > For assistance with all Yahoo! services please visit: > > > > http://help.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > Original Message Follows: > > ------------------------- > > > > Yahoo! ID: jandecaluwe > > First Name: Jan > > Last Name: Decaluwe > > Email Address: ja...@ja... > > Comments: I have learned that my web site is not accessible in China. > > > > Why is this so? Can you do something about that? > > Subject: General troubleshooting[ Attachment 1.2 Type: text/html] > > [ Attachment 1.3 Type: text/xml] > > > -- > Jan Decaluwe - Resources bvba - http://www.jandecaluwe.com > Losbergenlaan 16, B-3010 Leuven, Belgium > Electronic design with Python: > http://myhdl.jandecaluwe.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > _______________________________________________ > myhdl-list mailing list > myh...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/myhdl-list > |
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