Re: [myhdl-list] MEP : Signal Containers

[Christopher F. <chr...@gm...>]

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>> The promise of MyHDL is in debugging, what you call verification, but it
>> does not provide me with a tree of hardware modules that I need to
>> iterate over in order to write my required debugging harnesses.
>>
>> Anyhow there is no one critical point.  There are work arounds to each
>> piece.  It is just that the big picture would be so much simpler for
>> newbies to get, and so much simpler to build complex systems on top of.
>>
>> While this is a signal mep,  this point is not about a better signal, it
>> is about a better overall system.   Jan is asking show me the critical
>> feature.  I am responding we need a different elephant.
>
> It is clear that you still don't understand what beast we currently have,
> so I don't think you are in pole position to specify a different one.
>
> The problem is that I see zero progress, despite all the energy invested.
> I think the issue is that your learning methodology is broken. You keep
> on posting, but it seems you don't listen to the good advice you get from
> the experts here: start with learning the basics of digital design,
> including synthesis, use the manual as a close reference, use the cookbook
> examples to go through the process yourself in small steps. Actually your
> own suggestion to start simple with Verilog may be a good one, but now it
> seems you're even ignoring your own good advice.
>
> I hope that you understand how irritating it is to hear about visions
> and world views all the time, and even get programming lessons, from
> someone in that position.
>

I would like to add some emphasis.  I hope he does understand how 
*irritating* it is!  Not the fact of asking a questions.  This community 
has been very receptive to questions and helping newcomers.  But the 
barge of this vision and the inability, in any shape or form, to really 
understand what his own vision is.

As stated, the most frustrating appears to be his unwillingness to put 
the effort forward to grow in this area.  I also hope he realizes how 
much effort is being spent on his behalf.  Patient and eloquent 
explanations has been provided which has not been digested.

Regards,
Chris